List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

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  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Barrybran]

Lucky for us, if a player nominates for the national draft they're available to every club!

You're so close to understanding the concept - picks 5 and 6 get us the 8th and 9th best player (regardless of what number the pick is).

I don't care what number the pick is, I care how good the player is.
You saying "picks 5 & 6" is actually saying 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

For the record, I'm 31 and have studied and worked in the field. Have you?

Running laps with Barnett apparently.

If we split pick 1, which players would you target? How would you structure a trade to get those players?

 

[Jootube]

Running laps with Barnett apparently.

If we split pick 1, which players would you target? How would you structure a trade to get those players?

I sure as hell wouldn't be splitting pick 1 for the 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

I would expect the 8th, 9th and 10th best players back in return. If that's too much for Essendon then we take the best available (Duursma according to majority of draft watchers).

 

[Barrybran]

I sure as hell wouldn't be splitting pick 1 for the 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

I would expect the 8th, 9th and 10th best players back in return. If that's too much for Essendon then we take the best available (Duursma according to majority of draft watchers).

Can you attempt to respond with an actual answer?

 

[Jootube]

Can you attempt to respond with an actual answer?

That is my answer, I wouldn't split pick 1 for the picks you suggested.
I would take Duursma.

 

[ThePuma #9]

Pretty sure that was close to his profile U18s

Dom Sheed has never been seen as a tackling machine and whilst i will grant you he was considered a midfielder who could get clearances it was more due to positioning and roving the ruck tap than using brute strength.

Sharp is for lack of a better word and i know this will trigger some on here, a "bull"

See ball, get ball and often with a a few hanging off him.He then becomes a facilitator to outside runners with a quick handball. Something which Harley was forced to do this year and i'd much prefer he had to do less of in the future.

I understand why some don't want him, there's not a lot of flash to his game but he's precisely what our midfield is crying out for and i feel he has the potential to make those he plays around even better.

 

[shooshka]

They aren’t going to split because they want to win trade week. Splitting for that kind of premium you mentioned will never happen.

You sell if it’s in your interest or need. It’s no secret that we need more top end talent than we have on the list.

That’s what the media’s point was in the Harley debate. Split for more high end talent than just taking one kid. The club decided on Harley.

Maybe this year they will decide on splitting to bring in more talent. Maybe they really like the number one prospect and keep it, time will tell.

HR year we had 1 then 30 (ish)

This year we likely have 1, 4, 16ish, 25ish (all after bids)

 

[WCE777]

ah chee is meh. not worth the list space imo.

but beyond that ahchee and starcevich are FA... why on earth are we giving up so much collateral for those two + neale who is likely a salary dump.

Ah Chee is OOC, Starcevich is a FA.
I think if WC want all players we would pay slightly overs if it where to transpire.
My mistake, posted before I read it myself.
I would offer think Ah Chee is worth an early 2nd round and Starcevich and Neale would be probably worth Hawks 2nd and 3rd combined to make it attractive for BRI to do a deal.

I know Starcevich is a FA and Neale a salary dump so a later pick would suffice, but Neale is worth more than Hawks 3rd imo so I was thinking if we put pick 19, pick 23 up that would be overs for them but WC get back a future 2nd from BRI or something similar.

If it all comes to this you do a deal that is reasonable and fair for 3 players who are best 22 in a top team and more than likely play off in the GF again.
We are getting VERY good players for not much, so there is an incentive for us to pay overs in a trade as well as overs in a contract sense.
Starcevich is probably worth 8-900k, Ah Chee the same and Neale is worth much more to move and take his salary off their books so somewhere around 2 years at $1.3m+.

 

[Chris_6678]

Dom Sheed has never been seen as a tackling machine and whilst i will grant you he was considered a midfielder who could get clearances it was more due to positioning and roving the ruck tap than using brute strength.

Sharp is for lack of a better word and i know this will trigger some on here, a "bull"

See ball, get ball and often with a a few hanging off him.He then becomes a facilitator to outside runners with a quick handball. Something which Harley was forced to do this year and i'd much prefer he had to do less of in the future.

I understand why some don't want him, there's not a lot of flash to his game but he's precisely what our midfield is crying out for and i feel he has the potential to make those he plays around even better.

Would have though thats the exact kind of player we need.

Watching Rowell have players hanging of him while dishing out the handball to a player on the run is exactly what we need.

 

[Jootube]

Can you attempt to respond with an actual answer?

In the spirit of good debate, who would you target with 5 & 6?
Do you think Sharp would make it past Richmond's picks?

 

[ThePuma #9]

OK, keep it simple, what if the club don't view Sharpe in the top two picks and have CDT in the top two. Do we still go best available or do we take Sharpe as best fit?
What if we get a good offer for pick 2?

Well it depends on what we see as best available.

Best available talent overall or best available talent we need overall?

In other years i'd say go the best talent overall and just work out the rest later but as you can see with North at some point that becomes problematic and you really need to focus on what the side is missing.

For me our midfield is the biggest issue, in particular getting first use of the ball. We need outside run and we need an inside brute force mid which is why Duursma and Sharp pop out the most.

I was a huge admirer of CDT at the beginning of the year. I love that he has the potential to be a fifth midfielder in the centre with his clean hands and if he had performed better this year i would probably still be advocating we take him but that would have been if he was projecting to be a full time mid or at least 80/20.

I think two things are going to be very relevant to CDT come combine time. Has he grown more this year or is he still 200cm and what do his vertical running jump tests look like?

The AFL is going to change the rules most likely next year so the running vertical is going to be very important to if he will make it as a ruck.

 

[rebel23]

That is my answer, I wouldn't split pick 1 for the picks you suggested.
I would take Duursma.

Agree as well

Keep both the top 2 picks and decide to take whoever is best for us.

Splitting means that duursma sharp, Lindsay, Grilj maybe Farrow will be off the board.

Just grow a pair and take whichever combo of those guys and don't leave anything to chance

 

[WCE777]

I think some people are overlooking this when thinking of getting as many draft picks or players traded in/signed through FA as possible. As of now, we only have 7 spots available until the AFL grants us extra rookie spots, or if we delist a couple more players like Livingstone.

I think the obvious choice is if we trade in 3-4 players and draft 3-4 in the ND without NGA/FS prospects WC will cut harder.
Draft 3 plus 4 NGA/FS with 2 extra list spots means we will likely cut Barnett and another player.
Whether that is Livingstone which deserves another year to develop or someone like Johnstone who hasn't progressed at all, we will make room for best 22 more mature players if we need to.

 

[Barrybran]

That is my answer, I wouldn't split pick 1 for the picks you suggested.
I would take Duursma.

Nice cop out

In the spirit of good debate, who would you target with 5 & 6?
Do you think Sharp would make it past Richmond's picks?

I mentioned above that Sharp and two of Cumming/Farrow/Schubert/Grlj/Hibbins-Hargreaves would be better than Sharp + Duursma. I don't think Sharp gets past Richmond though I am wondering what the club is seeing in trying to split.

And yes, those players will wind up as picks 7 + 9, and that's OK because there isn't a clear top end pick this year.

 

[Jootube]

I mentioned above that Sharp and two of Cumming/Farrow/Schubert/Grlj/Hibbins-Hargreaves would be better than Sharp + Duursma. I don't think Sharp gets past Richmond though I am wondering what the club is seeing in trying to split.

And yes, those players will wind up as picks 7 + 9, and that's OK because there isn't a clear top end pick this year.

Honestly, that's so fair.
It ultimately comes down to Duursma vs two of the options above (I agree they will all likely be available at picks 5 & 6 in the draft)

I guess it just depends on how high/low you rate Duursma as a prospect.

I think that a lot of people are a bit gun-shy because the other Duursma's have not really lived up to potential and look like rangy wingers at best.

 

[txbyhull]

Honestly, that's so fair.
It ultimately comes down to Duursma vs two of the options above (I agree they will all likely be available at picks 5 & 6 in the draft)

I guess it just depends on how high/low you rate Duursma as a prospect.

I think that a lot of people are a bit gun-shy because the other Duursma's have not really lived up to potential and look like rangy wingers at best.

Me personally I'd be going Sharp with 1 no matter what, I think he has the intangibles to handle it well (pressure, attention, etc) and also think he is uniquely exactly what we require. If he can end up as 80% of Josh Dunkley I'd be pretty damn happy with Dunkley-lite. I think in that case though we do trade 1 as Duursma is the one with the attention and pedigree. Take any 2 of Cumming, Grjl, X Taylor, Schubert, NHH, Dovaston, Farrow and we're golden. If its Sharp I think we try and take someone to bring some run and carry and foot skills and someone to rotate through the forward line as well. Lindsay and Cumming would be peak.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

 

[Jootube]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

No, Richmond are pretty keen on him or CDT (given Nank's age).

 

[Jootube]

Me personally I'd be going Sharp with 1 no matter what, I think he has the intangibles to handle it well (pressure, attention, etc) and also think he is uniquely exactly what we require. If he can end up as 80% of Josh Dunkley I'd be pretty damn happy with Dunkley-lite. I think in that case though we do trade 1 as Duursma is the one with the attention and pedigree. Take any 2 of Cumming, Grjl, X Taylor, Schubert, NHH, Dovaston, Farrow and we're golden. If its Sharp I think we try and take someone to bring some run and carry and foot skills and someone to rotate through the forward line as well. Lindsay and Cumming would be peak.

My point a few pages ago is that Duursma vs 2 of those prospects is a bit of a wash.

Now if Essendon were to give us three of those options (plus Sharp at pick 2) I would bite their hand off.

This would leave Essendon with the set of Duursma's/pick 1 (assuming they land Zane in the trade period).

 

[TerryFilk]

This boards obsession with wanting to trade pick 1 just for the sake of it is hilarious

 

[txbyhull]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

I don't know about anyone else but Sharp isn't a top 3 player by any means. What he is though, is at least top 10, with all the intangibles and credentials we need. He fits exactly what we're crying out for, and while I think we are still in draft-BPA mode, I don't think you overlook him for other players who have genuine flaws. When faced with Boom-or-Bust vs 85% of the talent but less bust, I'm taking Sharp all day. He's got the defensive tenacity and long arms to disrupt when the ball inevitably goes the other way, and wins the contested ball and is a team player. He can be a facilitator learning from Yeo on how to feed the ball out to your Harleys, Hewetts, Kellys etc.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

This is the same board that had a two year obsession with Malakai Champion after all. I'm still trying to figure out what all that obsession was about.

 

[txbyhull]

This boards obsession with wanting to trade pick 1 just for the sake of it is hilarious

If i choose between Duursma + CDT or 1 of the 2 and a trade for a Sharp, Greeves, Cumming, etc. + an F1 or a second one of those guys, I'm taking the latter all day. I'll be pissed if we draft CDT

 

[Dark Sharks]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

Tbf even Twomeys latest rankings had Sharp at 6 behind..

1. Uwland
2. CDT
3. Durrsma
4. Patterson
5. Annable

So basically ranked 3 in the open pool. Take out gumby CDT and you've got Durrsma and Sharp ranked exactly where our picks land, hence why I'm happy just pulling the trigger.

Unless... some flog team turns our head with a pick split offer that is in our favour. As I've said before, if this means ponying up pick 1 (Durrsma) and landing Cumming and Schubert Instead, I'm doing it.

 

[Elite Pete]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

In most ‘experts’ top 3 in the open draft

 

[Happy Mastenator]

stallion's idea of Sharp plus two of Cumming/Farrow/Schubert/Grlj/Hibbins-Hargreaves is more appealing than Sharp + Duursma. You take a small hit one pick for an overall gain on the other two.

But we can get Sharp + Duursma then one of Cumming/Farrow/Schubert/Grlj/Hibbins-Hargreaves by trading the Hawks pick up. I'd rather do that.

Duursma is clearly the highest available rated talent. We can't afford to be passing him up.