List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

"Yeah nah, both Matt Taberner and Jack Anthony have expressed a desire to get more centre bounce attendances next year, we don't want a dual Brownlow medallist midfielder to get in the way. Oi Freddy, sign this 5 year extension!"

How many career backflips does Neale have though? 5, 6 at best?

 

[bzparkes]

Yeah, my work stopped hiring altogether, because people internally said they wanted to try different positions. No idea if they're any good at them though.

 

[twce13]

This boards obsession with wanting to trade pick 1 just for the sake of it is hilarious

its insanity.

keep 1 and 2. do everything you can with our other picks to upgrade hawks to GC ports pick.

wce are in dire need of more elite talent, duursma is the only one who projects as a potential star (granted there is some midfield bust factor). i'll be disappointed if we trade away pick 1.

do 100% agree that we should avoid CDT at all costs tho.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Yeah, my work stopped hiring altogether, because people internally said they wanted to try different positions. No idea if they're any good at them though.

sex life

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I know our sample size is really small, but last years draft suggested that Duane Massey doesn't try to outsmart other recruiters in the way Rohan O'Brien. Took the sensible picks when they presented themselves, rather than the half back with midfield potential who was highly rated as an under-16.

If we keep 1 & 2, we're probably going Duursma & CDT.
If we trade out one of those picks, I'd bet we still take CDT because no one else in the draft comes with his skillset. Meanwhile if we miss out on Duursma, there's a few mids who would be handy in our side with a later pick.

 

[ghostbat12]

Are we the only board rating Sharp in the top 3?

top 3? pfft. top 2 mate.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I know our sample size is really small, but last years draft suggested that Duane Massey doesn't try to outsmart other recruiters in the way Rohan O'Brien. Took the sensible picks when they presented themselves, rather than the half back with midfield potential who was highly rated as an under-16.

If we keep 1 & 2, we're probably going Duursma & CDT.
If we trade out one of those picks, I'd bet we still take CDT because no one else in the draft comes with his skillset. Meanwhile if we miss out on Duursma, there's a few mids who would be handy in our side with a later pick.

If we took CDT.....A tall athlete with forward potential, not quite tall or good enough for ruck. Is no different to half back with mid potential.


If we keep 1 2 it will be Duursma sharp.

 

[Jootube]

I know our sample size is really small, but last years draft suggested that Duane Massey doesn't try to outsmart other recruiters in the way Rohan O'Brien. Took the sensible picks when they presented themselves, rather than the half back with midfield potential who was highly rated as an under-16.

Yep, big fan of this approach. Don't get too fancy, just take the highest rated player available ala Shanahan last year.

Rated as a top 20 talent, we grabbed him at pick 30.

No mental gymnastics about how we already have strong marking types like Oscar Allen, Waterman, Williams, Ryan.
We just picked the best player available.

 

[WCE_Phill]

With the incoming rules of last touch between the arcs. Is a ruckman and clearance beast as urgent as it was.
Last touch, will reduce in about 30 stoppages a game if not more

 

[Dark Sharks]

I know our sample size is really small, but last years draft suggested that Duane Massey doesn't try to outsmart other recruiters in the way Rohan O'Brien. Took the sensible picks when they presented themselves, rather than the half back with midfield potential who was highly rated as an under-16.

If we keep 1 & 2, we're probably going Duursma & CDT.
If we trade out one of those picks, I'd bet we still take CDT because no one else in the draft comes with his skillset. Meanwhile if we miss out on Duursma, there's a few mids who would be handy in our side with a later pick.

Honestly the recruitment/scouting team should just get in the bin.

Just use a hybrid combination of Cal's form guide each year/whatever suits your list needs best and voila... Sorted, BF nuffies stay happy.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Took the sensible picks when they presented themselves, rather than the half back with midfield potential

Except when it was Bo vs

 

[Wooshaaaa]

With the incoming rules of last touch between the arcs. Is a ruckman and clearance beast as urgent as it was.
Last touch, will reduce in about 30 stoppages a game if not more

No it won't. It's already been worked out and spoken about that it's only around 2-4 less stoppages per game. It will demand a premium on tall ruckman that can actually jump and mark the ball.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

With the incoming rules of last touch between the arcs. Is a ruckman and clearance beast as urgent as it was.
Last touch, will reduce in about 30 stoppages a game if not more

Yeah true dat. The death of the true ruck?

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

If we took CDT.....A tall athlete with forward potential, not quite tall or good enough for ruck. Is no different to half back with mid potential.


If we keep 1 2 it will be Duursma sharp.

What if at the combine CDT measures taller, given many 17 year olds are still growing?
Do we trust that he can learn ruck craft in a professional environment to add to his around the ground abilities?

 

[Mop]

what if we split 2 and f2 for a 5 and 6 hypothetically and that ends up being CDT at 5 (pre matched bids), would that stop the melts?

 

[WCE_Phill]

Except when it was Bo vs

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Not true.
Massive flight risk and Freo also had Bo higher on the draft board.

 

[Jootube]

With the incoming rules of last touch between the arcs. Is a ruckman and clearance beast as urgent as it was.
Last touch, will reduce in about 30 stoppages a game if not more

I think this has been debunked. It's not last touch, it's last disposal (between the arcs).
Apparently only 4 or 5 a game currently.

It has to be a genuine kick/handball out of bounds, not a tackle or spill.

 

[shooshka]

what if we split 2 and f2 for a 5 and 6 hypothetically and that ends up being CDT at 5 (pre matched bids), would that stop the melts?

CDT + Duursma + a mid (Sharp/Cumming) I think most would celebrate.

But just the first 2 (at 1 & 2) rightly concerns people.

I reckon Richmond will become keener and keener on CDT, might be able to get a F2 from them to swap 2 for 3.

 

[TerryFilk]

I think you're missing how/why splitting is going to happen. Fair to say nobody is going to care about pick 2.

It's an option BECAUSE clubs are potentially into Durrsma, if anyone. You're not splitting it for fun, there needs to be a reason the opposition club does it.

Unless some silly w***er has a hard on for CDT, you're not keeping Durrsma in a split pick situation. It's either take Durrsma or split the pick for 2x of the others in the top 8.

And I think this board severely underrates how many clubs would be into CDT at pick 2… feel like a lot of you have made your mind up about him and are just completely disregarding him as a prospect, the reality is he’s top 2 in the open pool, clubs will come hard for him.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

CDT + Duursma + a mid (Sharp/Cumming) I think most would celebrate.

But just the first 2 (at 1 & 2) rightly concerns people.

I reckon Richmond will become keener and keener on CDT, might be able to get a F2 from them to swap 2 for 3.

That's the hope right. You threaten and threaten to take him, or to trade 2 to Essendon for 5 (who would bite our hands off for him if they have picks 5, 6, 7 where they can load up with mids with pick 6 and 7), to try and get something/anything of value, so still end up with Duursma/Sharp, but have added in another asset.

I just think we should keep 1 and take Duursma, two is the trade option for those wanting CDT, if we can still stay high enough to get one of the best rated mids.

 

[TerryFilk]

So which scenario would most prefer here?

1. Duurp (Duursma, Sharp)

2. Sharp & Cumbert (Sharp, Cumming, Schubert)

If we can make option 2 happen, you've gotta go that way surely. Still soooo many spanners to be thrown into the works over the coming weeks though. Do our non-draft aquisitions change our draft board rankings? If so, how? Really excited for this off-season, and despite what a few doomsdayers on the board might think...I reckon we'll mostly be satisfied with the end result. Strongest position we've been in for a long, long time. Remember, nothing has actually happened yet.

Lol, giving up Duursma for Aiden Schubert essentially would be the funniest thing a club has done in years.

We don’t need Schubert, he’s a key forward - that’s the one position we have talent in.

Just take Duursma and CDT or Sharp and trade up for Cumming, you don’t need to split to get your desired outcome or you can take the best player in the draft, split 2 and still likely get your desired outcome.

 

[eaglevision]

Lol, giving up Duursma for Aiden Schubert essentially would be the funniest thing a club has done in years.

We don’t need Schubert, he’s a key forward - that’s the one position we have talent in.

Just take Duursma and CDT or Sharp and trade up for Cumming, you don’t need to split to get your desired outcome or you can take the best player in the draft, split 2 and still likely get your desired outcome.

It’s Schubert and Cumming. Schubert will make an outstanding CHB to at least to start his career. I would trade Duursma for those two in a second.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

What if at the combine CDT measures taller, given many 17 year olds are still growing?
Do we trust that he can learn ruck craft in a professional environment to add to his around the ground abilities?

The height measurement and running vertical jump result will have meaningfull value for this kid. If he has grown it needs to be 202-204 and he needs to be top 3 for running vertical jump, and he needs a strong 2km time trial.

But even if all of a sudden the physical attributes are there can he be taught ruck craft.

Maybe we should try and poach max gawn as a player coach. (That should start another 20 pages on this thread)

 

[TerryFilk]

It’s Schubert and Cumming. Schubert will make an outstanding CHB to at least to start his career. I would trade Duursma for those two in a second.

It’s not though, because you can very easily achieve this outcome and still take Duursma.

The last thing we need is Schubert, you guys need to stop thinking every key forward can magically be turned into a key defender as well, it’s nonsense, you did the same with Shanahan but when a key forward prospect is that good as a key forward, they’ll never be moved down back.

Cumming can be had easily with GC’s pick, just trade up for him.

Cumming also has a lot less runs on the board as a midfielder and has similar issues to Hewett in regards to his tank.

Split pick 2, sure. 1 should be off the table unless it’s a godfather offer.

I can not wait for Willem to make so many of you eat your words.

 

[CountryLad]

So which scenario would most prefer here?

1. Duurp (Duursma, Sharp)

2. Sharp & Cumbert (Sharp, Cumming, Schubert)

If we can make option 2 happen, you've gotta go that way surely. Still soooo many spanners to be thrown into the works over the coming weeks though. Do our non-draft aquisitions change our draft board rankings? If so, how? Really excited for this off-season, and despite what a few doomsdayers on the board might think...I reckon we'll mostly be satisfied with the end result. Strongest position we've been in for a long, long time. Remember, nothing has actually happened yet.

DuuCumm for me.