List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[RanaNaved]

Disagree, CDT is projecting 1 or 2 on most rankings for sound reasons. He would be a great selection at 1 or 2 by WC.

Nah mate, poster's on this board know more than everyone else, that's why they're so keen on Greg Clark 2.0.....

 

[RanaNaved]

It’s not though, because you can very easily achieve this outcome and still take Duursma.

The last thing we need is Schubert, you guys need to stop thinking every key forward can magically be turned into a key defender as well, it’s nonsense, you did the same with Shanahan but when a key forward prospect is that good as a key forward, they’ll never be moved down back.

Cumming can be had easily with GC’s pick, just trade up for him.

Cumming also has a lot less runs on the board as a midfielder and has similar issues to Hewett in regards to his tank.

Split pick 2, sure. 1 should be off the table unless it’s a godfather offer.

I can not wait for Willem to make so many of you eat your words.

Yeah Duursma is light years ahead of Cumming and Schubert. We could get Duursma and just trade up to get one of those lesser players, but giving up Willem to do that would be stupid imo

 

[eaglevision]

It’s not though, because you can very easily achieve this outcome and still take Duursma.

The last thing we need is Schubert, you guys need to stop thinking every key forward can magically be turned into a key defender as well, it’s nonsense, you did the same with Shanahan but when a key forward prospect is that good as a key forward, they’ll never be moved down back.

Cumming can be had easily with GC’s pick, just trade up for him.

Cumming also has a lot less runs on the board as a midfielder and has similar issues to Hewett in regards to his tank.

Split pick 2, sure. 1 should be off the table unless it’s a godfather offer.

I can not wait for Willem to make so many of you eat your words.

I don’t see a way we can get Sharp, Cumming, Duursma and Schubert.

Why do you think Schubert won’t make a good KPD to start his career?

There is absolutely no guarantee Cumming gets to pick 7.

 

[ballsohard]

I would be happy with using 1 & 2 on Duurmsa & Sharp.

No need to split for a 5/7 or anything when we can achieve the same thing by bundling up our remaining picks and trading up to another top 10 pick anyway.

We don't have an abundance of list spots, no reason we should be using picks in the 20-40 range if we can trade up higher.

 

[Jootube]

I think Duursma, CDT, Annable, Uwland, Patterson are the clear top 5 prospects in the draft.
All of them have had influential games in the VFL as an 18 year old.

Given the last three are all academy-linked, Duursma and CDT 1 & 2 is the play.

This would mean that Sharp almost certainly goes to the Tigers with pick 6 or 7.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

It’s not though, because you can very easily achieve this outcome and still take Duursma.

The last thing we need is Schubert, you guys need to stop thinking every key forward can magically be turned into a key defender as well, it’s nonsense, you did the same with Shanahan but when a key forward prospect is that good as a key forward, they’ll never be moved down back.

Cumming can be had easily with GC’s pick, just trade up for him.

Cumming also has a lot less runs on the board as a midfielder and has similar issues to Hewett in regards to his tank.

Split pick 2, sure. 1 should be off the table unless it’s a godfather offer.

I can not wait for Willem to make so many of you eat your words.

Agree.

Most of our gun defenders over the years have been taken lower in the draft.
McGovern 44 in rookie draft, Barrass pick 43, McKenzie pick 29, Schofield 50. Glass at 11 only early pick of note.

Using a top 10 pick on Shubert, a forward, and trying to turn him into a defender might not be the way to go.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Lol, giving up Duursma for Aiden Schubert essentially would be the funniest thing a club has done in years.

We don’t need Schubert, he’s a key forward - that’s the one position we have talent in.

Just take Duursma and CDT or Sharp and trade up for Cumming, you don’t need to split to get your desired outcome or you can take the best player in the draft, split 2 and still likely get your desired outcome.

Well in that case, you take Duursma and Cumbert. Take your pick. I'd be stoked with any of these variations tbh.

 

[Hook461123]

Nah mate, poster's on this board know more than everyone else, that's why they're so keen on Greg Clark 2.0.....

Nah I agree with you, who needs a midfield anyway, we can just field a whole team of hybrids
Winning contested ball is overrated, we can revolutionise the AFL with a team of ruck forwards and back flanker mids.

 

[Doashuey]

With the incoming rules of last touch between the arcs. Is a ruckman and clearance beast as urgent as it was.
Last touch, will reduce in about 30 stoppages a game if not more

I dont think it will be that high. Apparently stats from SANFL suggest a 5% reduction. Now that does seem low but it is last disposal between the arcs. Still get BTI in the 50m arcs, still get throw ups around the ground and still get BTI between the arcs if the ball is spoilt or bundled out of play or the player is tackled over the line. I dont see it creating a huge reduction in BTIs.

 

[twce13]

I don’t see a way we can get Sharp, Cumming, Duursma and Schubert.

Why do you think Schubert won’t make a good KPD to start his career?

There is absolutely no guarantee Cumming gets to pick 7.

Maybe not 4 , but 3 yes with trading up hawks pick and we’re in a good position to do so.

Duursma + any two of those mentioned would be outstanding.

I take it you must have reservations or not rate Willem so much giving how hard you’re pushing a trade down. Think this is where a lot of us disagree.

I still really like cumming , if we could trade down 2 (still take duursma @1) and take cumming I’d be all for it. But I totally get there will be less appeal for teams to trade up to 2.

 

[RanaNaved]

Kinda hoping we can get Sam Butler across from Hawthorn, saw him play a very impressive VFL match not long ago. Ideal age, ready to go with plenty of footy left

 

[No Hassle Hough]

I think selling pick 1 this year comes with a considerable amount of risk.

Duursma is rated the best prospect and most likely to become elite (based on the information currently available).

Go back and have a look at the 2002 draft (which this draft has been compared to). 1 elite player at 1, a few B graders and a whole heap of duds (making up the top 20).

Worst case scenario, I'd hate to go into the draft with 1 and 2 and end up with 2 B graders and a dud.

Just take Duursma and Sharp and then whoever's left at Hawks or GC pick.

 

[pantskyle]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

Do you believe there's genuine interest in pick 2?

 

[Boohemian]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

 

[bzparkes]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

Nekminnut draft CDT

 

[squashface]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

I think our concerns lie with what our esteemed list manager considers a “great deal”

 

[Avalor]

Nah mate, poster's on this board know more than everyone else, that's why they're so keen on Greg Clark 2.0.....

I am keen on CDT also. I don't see him as a bona fide ruckman - y

Nah mate, poster's on this board know more than everyone else, that's why they're so keen on Greg Clark 2.0.....

I am keen on CDT also. I don't see him as a bona fide ruckman - yes, he is tall and can do it, but I see him more as a tall mid that can be the link between defence and attack. Especially, on the kick outs, and through the guts - they describe Jackson as a mid/ruck, so not unlike him.

 

[ghostbat12]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

I think it's more about whether we are keen on sharp or not. and whether we can slide and still pick up sharp.

we are also convinced that CDT has everyone fooled except a few here on BF WCE board. or like to think thats correct....so that we can take sharp.

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

 

[eaglevision]

Maybe not 4 , but 3 yes with trading up hawks pick and we’re in a good position to do so.

Duursma + any two of those mentioned would be outstanding.

I take it you must have reservations or not rate Willem so much giving how hard you’re pushing a trade down. Think this is where a lot of us disagree.

I still really like cumming , if we could trade down 2 (still take duursma @1) and take cumming I’d be all for it. But I totally get there will be less appeal for teams to trade up to 2.

I do rate Willem, highly. But I rate a combination of one of Sharp/Cumming and one of Lindsay/Schubert higher even if it means adding our 2R.

But I wouldn’t trade Willem for Lindsay and Schubert for example.

If we did get GCS pick and got Duursma, Sharp and Cumming I’d be delighted.

 

[Grumpyshades]

This is also how we piss off other players when you bring in someone that's no guarantee to be in our best 22 and give them $600-$700k on the basis of very little. Everyone starts looking around going WTF.

you are correct normally. But the players would understand after a 1-win season the club has to maybe 'reach' a little

 

[Monocle]

Pick 1 won't be traded, pick 2 would only be traded for a great deal.

We're not making silly mistakes this draft.

It's not the draft that I am worried about, it trade week that scares the shit out of me.



Matt Clarke finalising trade week, just as Don Pyke walks in to assess the Cluster ****.





Then see below - Matt Clarke walking into the meeting with the recruiting team after he has completed the trade week.

 

[pantskyle]

Do you believe there's genuine interest in pick 2?

Will be genuine interest once we actually get given it. But we'll also have teams trying for one.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I think our concerns lie with what our esteemed list manager considers a “great deal”

I think we all know what Clarke will be after...