List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

[Keys]

Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

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  7.8

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  1.6

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  0.6

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[eaglevision]

Sharp not even nominated because he was too busy playing in the SANFL league rather than U18s.
This is almost a participation trophy.

Mate any kid that wins an U18 state B&F is a bloody good player, particularly with the strongest SA crop in recent memory, if not ever.

Sharp has been playing league for three years, he’s a freak.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Looks like you'll be keeping him because no one would pay much for him.

I'm okay with that scenario.

 

[Jootube]

Mate any kid that wins an U18 state B&F is a bloody good player.

Dude, didn't Fred win the WA MVP at the Carnival and is likely to go pick 30+?

You clearly really really rate Schubert, but this was a two horse between him and Mitch Marsh.

 

[eaglevision]

Dude, didn't Fred win the WA MVP at the Carnival and is likely to go pick 30+?

You clearly really really rate Schubert, but this was a two horse between him and Mitch Marsh.

I do rate him but still only the 3rd best SA kid in my eyes. Maybe 4th but we don’t have as much of a need for Marsh.

Fred won WA’s best over 4 games at the U18 champs. Schubert won the season MVP in the strongest U18 cohort. Marsh, Cumming etc.

 

[tcole3votes]

Yes, we’ve heard it a lot

My answer is always, why on earth would Sydney make a win now move by going all in for a 29 year old Charlie Curnow and then turn around and trade their 3rd best player in the same deal? It makes no sense for them.

They have pick 8, 2026 F1, 2027 F1 and countless role players they can trade for more assets, they aren’t going to ship Chad Warner out after he recently just re-signed and Chad also wouldn’t want to come to a 1 win team seeing as he….. recently re-signed instead of coming here.

I think Sydney would consider it much more than we realise

A 2026 Swans team with Curnow & Petracca would be much more competitive than the team now

Also if they think Warner will leave as a free agent in 2027 they would realise pick 2 would be way more than what they will end up receiving

 

[Keys]

I'm okay with that scenario.

Appreciate your input

Where do things stand with Will Phillips. Hadn’t been offered a contract or yet to agree on one as far as I know. We were reportedly talking to him earlier in the year but there hasn’t been much noise around that of late

Is a potential low cost addition to our midfield after being squeezed out of your stacked lineup of mids

 

[Jootube]

I do rate him but still only the 3rd best SA kid in my eyes. Maybe 4th but we don’t have as much of a need for Marsh.

Fred won WA’s best over 4 games at the U18 champs. Schubert won the season MVP in the strongest U18 cohort. Marsh, Cumming etc.

You are right, SA looked might good in the carnival. But Cumming didn't get nominated either (only 5 games).
Schubert would be a great get if we can sneak another top 15 pick - but I don't see him in the mix at 1 or 2.

Would you take him that early?

 

[tcole3votes]

I think Sydney would consider it much more than we realise

A 2026 Swans team with Curnow & Petracca would be much more competitive than the team now

Also if they think Warner will leave as a free agent in 2027 they would realise pick 2 would be way more than what they will end up receiving

Curnow is one of the best forwards in the comp and if they back their medical team in he still has a good 5 more years in him

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Mate any kid that wins an U18 state B&F is a bloody good player, particularly with the strongest SA crop in recent memory, if not ever.

Sharp has been playing league for three years, he’s a freak.

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

Did a mini dive in on Schache. Brisbane drafted him at pick 2, did the whole Harley speculation of wanting to go home thing, Brisbane traded him after his second season to the Bulldogs for get this...pick 25 and 40...I would've burned down the world as a Lions fan.

 

[eaglevision]

You are right, SA looked might good in the carnival. But Cumming didn't get nominated either (only 5 games).
Schubert would be a great get if we can sneak another top 15 pick - but I don't see him in the mix at 1 or 2.

Would you take him that early?

I’d melt if we took anyone other than Sharp and one of Cumming or Duursma at 1-2 unless we knew one would slide to our next pick. We are run by total idiots if we pass up Sharp, I can understand either of the other two in preference of the other.

Schubert will be spoken about at Essendon’s current picks and certainly St Kilda’s, I wouldn’t take him at 1 or 2 though.

 

[eaglevision]

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

It doesn’t guarantee anything, but it does tell you they are an exceptional 17/18yo. Will Ashcroft and Sam Walsh are also recent winners. Can football.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

That's three in the last 20 years.

Heres the other 17
24 lonbard Langford
23 sanders
22ashcroft
18 Walsh
17 Allen
16 Graham
14 petracca
13 sheed
12 cog
11 Whitfield
10 bennel
09 swallow
08 watts
07 Morton
06 Hawkins
05 murphy

Bennel should've been a star.
Watts was wasted by the poisonous Melbourne FC

I'll take the risk on the larke medalist any year.

 

[ziad]

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

Did a mini dive in on Schache. Brisbane drafted him at pick 2, did the whole Harley speculation of wanting to go home thing, Brisbane traded him after his second season to the Bulldogs for get this...pick 25 and 40...I would've burned down the world as a Lions fan.

Brander was a key forward contested beast - aginst kids. This all makes drafting an art and a science

 

[TerryFilk]

You are right, SA looked might good in the carnival. But Cumming didn't get nominated either (only 5 games).
Schubert would be a great get if we can sneak another top 15 pick - but I don't see him in the mix at 1 or 2.

Would you take him that early?

Schubert is a good prospect but he’s not what we need at all and even if you take a best player available approach, he likely won’t be that at any of our picks unless he unexpectedly slides.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

My mock offseason
trades / compo

• 2 Extra rookie spots from the AFL
• 1 end of first round pick from the AFL
• pick 2 for Oscar Allen
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  Oscar Allen

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  26

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  196cm

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  9.8

  2star

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  6.6

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  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  3.8

  4star

  T

  2.4

  4star

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  1.1

  4star

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  D

  8.6

  3star

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  5.8

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  2.8

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  3.8

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  2.0

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• pick 35 for chesser
• F2 for Liam Ryan
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  Liam Ryan

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  11.3

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  8.6

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  2.7

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  3.0

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  2.0

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  1.3

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  D

  9.9

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  8.0

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  1.9

  1star

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  3.3

  3star

  T

  1.6

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  1.3

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  D

  11.4

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  9.0

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  2.4

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  3.8

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  1.8

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  1.6

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• AFL end of first round pick traded for stacevich
• pick 19, 33, 35, STK F2 for GC pick 6

Draft
1 Willem Duursma (transition mid)
2 CDT (Ruck)
6 Dyson Sharp (inside mid)
15 Harley Barker (wing)
Match Bids on
Charlie Banfield (wing)
Wes Walley (fwd)
Kobe Evans (fwd)
Tylah Williams (fwd)

under 23s in each position
key def - Brock, Bazzo
def - ginbey, greggo, hough, harvey johnston, bo Allen (mid?)
ruck - CDT, Harry Barnett
mid - Harley, hewett, sharp, Duursma (utility?)
Wing - Harley Barker, Dewar (utility?), banfield (utility?), maric (defender?)
Fwd - Noah long, brockman, champion, Davis (wing?), Gross(mid?), newton, walley, evans, tylah W
key fwd - Archer, jobe, jack will

 

[Hasselhough]

Yes, we’ve heard it a lot

My answer is always, why on earth would Sydney make a win now move by going all in for a 29 year old Charlie Curnow and then turn around and trade their 3rd best player in the same deal? It makes no sense for them.

They have pick 8, 2026 F1, 2027 F1 and countless role players they can trade for more assets, they aren’t going to ship Chad Warner out after he recently just re-signed and Chad also wouldn’t want to come to a 1 win team seeing as he….. recently re-signed instead of coming here.

The whole point of curnow is adding to their list and trying for the flag the next 2 seasons .

I'm happy to wait 2 years grab a bunch of 1st round picks, get our young guys to 50 - 100 games and then get warner for free

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

My mock offseason
trades / compo

• 2 Extra rookie spots from the AFL
• 1 end of first round pick from the AFL
• pick 2 for Oscar Allen
• pick 35 for chesser
• F2 for Liam Ryan
• AFL end of first round pick traded for stacevich
• pick 19, 33, 35, STK F2 for GC pick 6

Draft
1 Willem Duursma (transition mid)
2 CDT (Ruck)
6 Dyson Sharp (inside mid)
15 Harley Barker (wing)
Match Bids on
Charlie Banfield (wing)
Wes Walley (fwd)
Kobe Evans (fwd)
Tylah Williams (fwd)

under 23s in each position
key def - Brock, Bazzo
def - ginbey, greggo, hough, harvey johnston, bo Allen (mid?)
ruck - CDT, Harry Barnett
mid - Harley, hewett, sharp, Duursma (utility?)
Wing - Harley Barker, Dewar (utility?), banfield (utility?), maric (defender?)
Fwd - Noah long, brockman, champion, Davis (wing?), Gross(mid?), newton, walley, evans, tylah W
key fwd - Archer, jobe, jack will

North Melbourne have #20 and #21. If we want #6, we'll have to cough up #15 and #19.

Dyson Sharp will not last to #6. He's a far safer bet that CDT.

If we get pick 6:
#1 Sharp
#2 Duursma
#6 Lindsay or CDT

If we don't:
#1 Sharp
#2 Duursma
#15 Faz
#19 Fred/Phillipou/Barker.

These people thinking Rodriguez is not a top 30 pick are nuts.

 

[ThePuma #9]

I'm okay with that scenario.

Here's the issue with Jy from an unbiased point of view.

He's contracted for another 4 years on approx 900k a season.

If you are going to continue to play him as a HFF or wing player then that's probably more than you'd like to for a player in that role.

I think he had a good year all things considered but his best games for your club were more often than not when Wardlaw or someone from the midfield was injured and he got to play on ball.

There would be interest in him for certain but he's not leaving North to go to another struggling club which means he requests someone who

A) Won't want to pay him 900k a year

B) Won't want to give up more than a first round pick and change. You'd hope for a top 10 pick but the best clubs generally don't have picks much better than mid teens.

Jy does not look like a trade will be easy to accomplish unless North are happy to take unders for him.

For the record i'd be very happy to take him but he's not coming west.

 

[twce13]

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

Did a mini dive in on Schache. Brisbane drafted him at pick 2, did the whole Harley speculation of wanting to go home thing, Brisbane traded him after his second season to the Bulldogs for get this...pick 25 and 40...I would've burned down the world as a Lions fan.

In hindsight 25 and 40 for schache was good business. He was looking like a bust after 2 years and never changed that narrative.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

North Melbourne have #20 and #21. If we want #6, we'll have to cough up #15 and #19.

Dyson Sharp will not last to #6. He's a far safer bet that CDT.

If we get pick 6:
#1 Sharp
#2 Duursma
#6 Lindsay or CDT

If we don't:
#1 Sharp
#2 Duursma
#15 Faz
#19 Fred/Phillipou/Barker.

These people thinking Rodriguez is not a top 30 pick are nuts.

yeh maybe

I'm personally not a big fan of taking sharp with a top 3 pick, due to not having high upside, plus there being other midfielders like cummings available if we miss out on him. Also think sharp has a way better chance at making it past Richmond and Essendon then CDT. I know Rodriguez is a top 30 pick but we just don't need another half forward / mid, also if you mean farrow I don't think he will be available at 15 due to that pick being around 23 on draft night.

 

[RanaNaved]

Sharp way more likely to make it to 6 than CDT. Cal Twomey who I'm pretty sure bases his opinions on his conversations with recruiters, reckons CDT and Duursma have separated themselves from the pack. That essentially means the recruiters are saying that

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Sharp way more likely to make it to 6 than CDT. Cal Twomey who I'm pretty sure bases his opinions on his conversations with recruiters, reckons CDT and Duursma have separated themselves from the pack. That essentially means the recruiters are saying that

Yea still don't think that translates to WCE picking up CDT though

 

[RanaNaved]

Yea still don't think that translates to WCE picking up CDT though

I reckon we're taking him @ 2 following Duursma at 1.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Sharp way more likely to make it to 6 than CDT. Cal Twomey who I'm pretty sure bases his opinions on his conversations with recruiters, reckons CDT and Duursma have separated themselves from the pack. That essentially means the recruiters are saying that

I know that this is what Cal says, but it's definitely not based on 2025 form where he has been middling at best.
Heck both Bendigo and Murray had better rucks at Talent League than Duff-Tytler.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

yeh maybe

I'm personally not a big fan of taking sharp with a top 3 pick, due to not having high upside, plus there being other midfielders like cummings available if we miss out on him. Also think sharp has a way better chance at making it past Richmond and Essendon then CDT. I know Rodriguez is a top 30 pick but we just don't need another half forward / mid, also if you mean farrow I don't think he will be available at 15 due to that pick being around 23 on draft night.

"No high upside" is something people who think they are way smarter than they really are, use. You don't have a crystal ball, mate. All we know is at 18, he was the best player in the country, and plays league footy. No one knows if he's peaked at 18, or will progress at AFL level and be a superstar. No one knows this for any player. People said this BS about Will Ashcroft. This, "but I know other players have more upside" is a nonsense.