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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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I don't think he rated McVee at 11, just said that's what Demons would be chasing and ultimately, probably end up with a pick in the 20s. I think he was factoring how far picks are getting pushed out.

Yeah fair point, I didn’t see it that way. Even early second rounder seems probably a bit overs.
 
Hird wants us to do what he did.spend extra in football department...if you know what I mean.

doesn't matter that you need players with talent. you "give" them talent beyond their abilities through football department spending. wink wink.
It is kind of wild that the dude who literally set his club back decade/s by overseeing a clandestine illegal doping program to cheat the competition has the gall to say anything about another clubs operations
 
extremely random question but does anyone in here know/is/heard of a football list manager and how the discussions around trades go? is it a phone call like you see in movies?
Basically list manager is in a room negotiating with some guy, until a dude with business ventures in South east Asia comes in and tells the list manager to Gtfo, and then boom boom we got owies for pick 3. That’s how the pros do it anyway.
 

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Did anyone catch the end where Jasper rated the dockers pick 11 as fair for McVee. But finally conceded early 2nd pick because he’s out of contract.
Wtf I’m glad he didn’t pick us, imagine what Clarke would have given up.

Side note. If there is a stand off with Freo we could pinch him in the PSD
We could offer Melbourne pick 19. ;)
 
Just for a giggle, I asked Grok AI the below question 🤣

What players should the West Coast Eagles take in the 2025 AFL national draft with picks 1 and 2.



1) Cooper Duff-Tytler
Ruck/Mid / 200cm

Elite athletic ruck who moves like a midfielder, averaging 15+ hitouts and impacting contests in open play (Vic Metro MVP contender). Addresses the Eagles’ ruck crisis post-Darling and potential Allen exit. His versatility as a tall who can pinch-hit forward or in midfield makes him a high-ceiling No. 1 pick for a rebuilding side needing a long-term spine. National combine invitee with top athletic testing.

2) Willem Duursma
Utility/Mid / 191cm

Dynamic utility with endurance, strong overhead marking, and clean decision-making; flashes midfield brilliance (AFL Academy standout). Brother to Geelong’s Xavier, he brings character and versatility to play half-back, wing, or midfield. Perfect fit for West Coast’s need for outside run and flexibility to bolster a leaky defense (most points conceded in 2025). Recent mocks slot him in the top five.


Why These Choices?

  • Duff-Tytler is a rare 200cm athlete who can dominate ruck contests while contributing around the ground, addressing a glaring list need. His mobility ensures he won’t be a one-dimensional tall, offering immediate impact and long-term upside alongside Reid.
  • Duursma adds polish and versatility, capable of impacting games from multiple positions. His run-and-carry addresses West Coast’s need for outside speed, while his size and marking make him a defensive-midfield hybrid to build around.
 


Hird is the biggest Eagles hater. Genuinely think he is going to cry every time he talks about them.

Anyway swim your way through Hirds tears and Cal thinks we will go to the draft with 1 and 2 but clubs with multiple picks will likely come for pick 2.

I personally am shocked that Hird thinks rules don't apply. He has such a strong history of acting within the boundaries of the restrictions placed on professional teams.
 
Just for a giggle, I asked Grok AI the below question 🤣

What players should the West Coast Eagles take in the 2025 AFL national draft with picks 1 and 2.



1) Cooper Duff-Tytler
Ruck/Mid / 200cm

Elite athletic ruck who moves like a midfielder, averaging 15+ hitouts and impacting contests in open play (Vic Metro MVP contender). Addresses the Eagles’ ruck crisis post-Darling and potential Allen exit. His versatility as a tall who can pinch-hit forward or in midfield makes him a high-ceiling No. 1 pick for a rebuilding side needing a long-term spine. National combine invitee with top athletic testing.

2) Willem Duursma
Utility/Mid / 191cm

Dynamic utility with endurance, strong overhead marking, and clean decision-making; flashes midfield brilliance (AFL Academy standout). Brother to Geelong’s Xavier, he brings character and versatility to play half-back, wing, or midfield. Perfect fit for West Coast’s need for outside run and flexibility to bolster a leaky defense (most points conceded in 2025). Recent mocks slot him in the top five.


Why These Choices?

  • Duff-Tytler is a rare 200cm athlete who can dominate ruck contests while contributing around the ground, addressing a glaring list need. His mobility ensures he won’t be a one-dimensional tall, offering immediate impact and long-term upside alongside Reid.
  • Duursma adds polish and versatility, capable of impacting games from multiple positions. His run-and-carry addresses West Coast’s need for outside speed, while his size and marking make him a defensive-midfield hybrid to build around.
Surprised Grok didn’t find a way to shoehorn white genocide in South Africa into the response.

Maybe it likes CDT at the first pick because it thinks that the Tytler part of his surname rhymes with a former German chancellor.
 
Why is it the loudest whiners in the media about the assistance package are from Essendon? Does it burn them so much, that no matter how bad we get they're still more dysfunctional than we are?
 
Has there been anymore chatter about WC and Ah Chee?
I suspect Petracca gets to ADE and makes the Ah Chee trade more challenging.
Just in Pyke's interview this morning with Duff he mentioned we were after 22-28yo players specifically to help our young team develop.
Interesting Ah Chee is almost 28 and we were keen not so long ago?
I reckon Trac will more than likely end up at the GC TBH.
 
You're basing this on what exactly?
his VFL stats are very good, and considering he is out of the Brisbane team we should get him relatively cheap,
'Averaged 25.9 disposals and 6.5 tackles in the VFL to be runner-up in that team’s best and fairest, equal fourth in the Liston Trophy and make the VFL Team of the Year'.
 
Is JamesTurd satire or literally just James Hird?

Futurama Squinting GIF
I changed my mind after reading it a second time.

Clearly a Dark Sharks burner. He was waaaaayyyy too quick to react to it when he usually takes days.

Nothing like a self-congratulatory pat on the back for a job well done.
 

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Why is it the loudest whiners in the media about the assistance package are from Essendon? Does it burn them so much, that no matter how bad we get they're still more dysfunctional than we are?
Just salty that they didn't get any handouts out of their football capitulation... which was also caused by poor decisions (in their case, being systematic drug cheats) 🙄
 
Around the ground he is great, after losing the ruck knock follows up extremely well
At ruck contests gets mauled though get pushed around in the CTL will only get worst at AFL level
His hitout to advantage is really poor

I also don't think the new ruck rules will help him he is undersized ruck at 200cm the average ruck is 203cm
in the AFL
His forward work is poor though we have better forwards on the list already so cant see him playing immediately
His forward work is absolutely not poor, he’s incredibly dangerous aerially, he leads well, he’s dangerous even at ground level, he makes smart decisions, he can kick goals on the run from 55 metres out, his set shot kicking needs work though.

I don’t think he gets “pushed around” he’s very dominant in the ruck for the most part he just isn’t used there as much as I would’ve liked.

I get the concerns about his ruck craft but a tandem of Archer Reid and CDT is exciting to me, I think this is where the game is heading, big slow oafs are going to go extinct soon enough, going to be a lot less ruck contests.
 
I’ll never understand the obsession with bailing out the West Coast Eagles. Seriously. The AFL bending over backwards to give the richest club in the land a free ride is beyond a joke.


Let’s be honest: this is a club with more resources than anyone. They’ve got the fan base, the sponsors, the money. They could be spending right up to the soft cap and beyond in football infrastructure, development, coaching staff — but instead, they pick and choose, cry poor, and wait for the AFL to hand them a draft package. Pathetic.


And the narrative that “oh, poor West Coast, they’ve fallen on hard times”? Spare me. This mob won a premiership in 2018. That’s six years ago. Not a generation. Not a drought. They’re not some struggling suburban club fighting to keep the lights on — they’re swimming in cash. They put themselves in this hole.


If you give West Coast priority picks, what message does that send? That you can mismanage your list, take your eye off development, bottom out for a few seasons and the league will just swoop in with a safety net? That’s not equalisation, that’s rewarding failure.


I’ve lived through what happens when the AFL decides to “make an example” of a club. I know how harsh they can be. But when it’s West Coast, suddenly it’s sympathy and handouts. I’m telling you right now — it’s wrong. They don’t need help, they need accountability.


West Coast don’t deserve priority picks. They deserve to dig themselves out the hard way. Anything else is a farce.
Thanks Hirdy. I'd had a bad day, but that was a real shot in the arm I needed to get through.
 
His forward work is absolutely not poor, he’s incredibly dangerous aerially, he leads well, he’s dangerous even at ground level, he makes smart decisions, he can kick goals on the run from 55 metres out, his set shot kicking needs work though.

I don’t think he gets “pushed around” he’s very dominant in the ruck for the most part he just isn’t used there as much as I would’ve liked.

I get the concerns about his ruck craft but a tandem of Archer Reid and CDT is exciting to me, I think this is where the game is heading, big slow oafs are going to go extinct soon enough, going to be a lot less ruck contests.
If we do draft CDT then our forward line at some points in games will be Shanahan, Waterman, A Reid, J Williams/CDT/B Williams, that just seems WAY to tall for my liking tbh
 
If we do draft CDT then our forward line at some points in games will be Shanahan, Waterman, A Reid, J Williams/CDT/B Williams, that just seems WAY to tall for my liking tbh
Imbalance issues would definitely worry me especially with how horrible McQualter’s line ups have been at times

With that being said if CDT is in the 22, you’d have to assume both the William’s aren’t in it.

Waterman FF, Shanahan CHF, CDT forward, Archer forward / ruck can work, ideally we need Archer to take a big leap and be a primary ruck within the next 2 years but that’s probably wishful thinking.

Do have to remember Waterman isn’t exactly reliable health wise and will be 28 early next season - not saying he’s old, but having a succession plan for him isn’t the dumbest idea considering the injuries and health issues.
 

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Imbalance issues would definitely worry me especially with how horrible McQualter’s line ups have been at times

With that being said if CDT is in the 22, you’d have to assume both the William’s aren’t in it.

Waterman FF, Shanahan CHF, CDT forward, Archer forward / ruck can work, ideally we need Archer to take a big leap and be a primary ruck within the next 2 years but that’s probably wishful thinking.

Do have to remember Waterman isn’t exactly reliable health wise and will be 28 early next season - not saying he’s old, but having a succession plan for him isn’t the dumbest idea considering the injuries and health issues.
Maybe we put all thr talls in the midfield because there will be no rad8tional midfielders that will be deliver it to them.
 
Just for a giggle, I asked Grok AI the below question 🤣

What players should the West Coast Eagles take in the 2025 AFL national draft with picks 1 and 2.



1) Cooper Duff-Tytler
Ruck/Mid / 200cm

Elite athletic ruck who moves like a midfielder, averaging 15+ hitouts and impacting contests in open play (Vic Metro MVP contender). Addresses the Eagles’ ruck crisis post-Darling and potential Allen exit. His versatility as a tall who can pinch-hit forward or in midfield makes him a high-ceiling No. 1 pick for a rebuilding side needing a long-term spine. National combine invitee with top athletic testing.

2) Willem Duursma
Utility/Mid / 191cm

Dynamic utility with endurance, strong overhead marking, and clean decision-making; flashes midfield brilliance (AFL Academy standout). Brother to Geelong’s Xavier, he brings character and versatility to play half-back, wing, or midfield. Perfect fit for West Coast’s need for outside run and flexibility to bolster a leaky defense (most points conceded in 2025). Recent mocks slot him in the top five.


Why These Choices?

  • Duff-Tytler is a rare 200cm athlete who can dominate ruck contests while contributing around the ground, addressing a glaring list need. His mobility ensures he won’t be a one-dimensional tall, offering immediate impact and long-term upside alongside Reid.
  • Duursma adds polish and versatility, capable of impacting games from multiple positions. His run-and-carry addresses West Coast’s need for outside speed, while his size and marking make him a defensive-midfield hybrid to build around.
Grok came up with this crap?

I'm safe in my white collar job for a few more years then.
 
If these guys couldn't foosball good, they wouldn't have a career post footy.

Posters here are more knowledgeable than these guys. We all know about the soft cap, we all know the punitive taxes applicable if we go over it. It's not difficult to understand for everybody except these guys.
Love it how Hird tells everyone WCE aren’t spending above the soft cap like he knows. But Pyke has made it clear over the last couple days we are
Then also tries to point to OA compo as further evidence of WCE handouts, which is a completely seperate argument.
Bartel and Twomey voices of reason to some extent
 
I reckon Trac will more than likely end up at the GC TBH.
I think its ADE, he asked to be traded immediately after meeting with them!
That's why I think Ah Chee is still looking 50/50 to WC if they go chips in with Petracca.
 
his VFL stats are very good, and considering he is out of the Brisbane team we should get him relatively cheap,
'Averaged 25.9 disposals and 6.5 tackles in the VFL to be runner-up in that team’s best and fairest, equal fourth in the Liston Trophy and make the VFL Team of the Year'.
That only makes him a very good VFL player.

Hardly call him a gun.
 
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