List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

Spoiler

• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Mop]

How dare any of you wish to trade Jack Williams

I don't think anyone WISHES to trade Jilliams, some just highlight how dire the ruckstock has been since Naitanui's premature retirement.

I share your line of thought though, he should not be even thought of as tradebait.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Wonder if we could get Jamo to shave his head and con Collingwood into taking him instead of either Williams, Mayne/Mundy style

I heard there's a shelter we can send him to, for KPP with dodgy soft tissues. I know it's sad, but he'll be happier there. There's plenty of sticks for them to hold behind their heads during a light jog, and a great big outer oval

 

[ArdentEagle]

Offered or taken.

We will use every means to improve as we should.

Blight at Richmond is a good example. 23 and out of contract at Richmond with a list full of kids picked early competing for the same spot. DFA.

Now with Gov retired if fit Blight would play round 1 2026 and as a min provide quality depth.

Tsatas is intriguing as is Sheldrick and Phillips.

Tsatas knock is his kicking. His inside ball getting and handball link game very good. Does that suit Minn's gameplan?

Phillips 100% inside and can defend. His job to get the ground ball to others.

Sheldrick the same.

Mid to late 2nd round picks that slide anyway would be the max price for any of Tsatas or Sheldrick and Phillips not even that uncontracted.

Oh I agree but it's not BW or JW that should be moved on. Others before them.

Blight would be a great get. Very happy there.
Tsatas. Well, he'd help with clearances and suit out current protocol on kicking skills.
Philips I like but I'm but Clay Hall or Jack Graham might object (certainly can't play all 3)
Sheldrick would cost too much in draft capital.

We now must have a Kings ransom in cap space, we need to be very aggressive and land a big fish or two.

 

[Cuzz09]

Xerri 5 years offer $800k go on

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Not sure of the rules but assuming how much can be on the table or if you can roll over underspend?

You assume some **** of numbers would be thrown about; Other than Reid, there isn't anyone that would be demanding big numbers yet...

2026
Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

33

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

(Brisbane)
Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

(Carlton)
Noah Anderson

15

Noah Anderson

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

(Gold Coast)
Kieren Briggs (GWS Giants)

2027
Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

29

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(Carlton)
Sam De Koning (Geelong)
Tom Green (GWS Giants)
Finn Maginness (Hawthorn)
Jack Scrimshaw

14

Jack Scrimshaw

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

200.7

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

167.0

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

155.6

3star

(Hawthorn)
Will Day (Hawthorn)
Trent Rivers

24

Trent Rivers

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

171.3

3star

D

10.7

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

171.3

3star

D

10.7

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.7

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

171.3

3star

(Melbourne)
Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(Sydney)
Riley Garcia (Western Bulldogs)

 

[Mop]

Not sure of the rules but assuming how much can be on the table or if you can roll over underspend?

You assume some **** of numbers would be thrown about; Other than Reid, there isn't anyone that would be demanding big numbers yet...

2026
Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
Sam Walsh (Carlton)
Noah Anderson (Gold Coast)
Kieren Briggs (GWS Giants)

2027
Marc Pittonet (Carlton)
Sam De Koning (Geelong)
Tom Green (GWS Giants)
Finn Maginness (Hawthorn)
Jack Scrimshaw (Hawthorn)
Will Day (Hawthorn)
Trent Rivers (Melbourne)
Chad Warner (Sydney)
Riley Garcia (Western Bulldogs)

Surely you'd just re-negotiate and front load a whole bulkload of contracts now if it got that dire

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Not sure of the rules but assuming how much can be on the table or if you can roll over underspend?

You assume some **** of numbers would be thrown about; Other than Reid, there isn't anyone that would be demanding big numbers yet...

2026
Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
Sam Walsh (Carlton)
Noah Anderson (Gold Coast)
Kieren Briggs (GWS Giants)

2027
Marc Pittonet (Carlton)
Sam De Koning (Geelong)
Tom Green (GWS Giants)
Finn Maginness (Hawthorn)
Jack Scrimshaw (Hawthorn)
Will Day (Hawthorn)
Trent Rivers (Melbourne)
Chad Warner (Sydney)
Riley Garcia (Western Bulldogs)

Cap floor is 95%. Any savings from underspend (up to 5%) can be rolled over for up to two years.

Front loading deals should be the preferred mechanism to fill the cap rather than underspending.

In saying that, front loading for us is difficult as the only players with more than 4 years on their deal is Baker and Hutch.

we could front load some of Bakers money, maybe 150-200K each of Yeo/Kelly’s 2027 money to 2026, but there are rules front loading too.

 

[Keys]

• Move all of Yeo’s and Kelly’s 2027 money into 2026
• Same with Owies, although if he doesn’t improve we should consider paying him out his 2027 contract and delist him next year. Too soon to do it this year
• Move money in the contracts for Waterman and Baker (2029) and Duggan and Graham (2028) into 2026
• Hewett (2026), Ginbey (2027) and Hough (2028) could also have their respective contracts fiddled with to front load some into 2026

There’s not much more we can do.

Our other veterans are either out of contract this year and may be cut or aren’t in a position to justify contracts beyond 2026 or in someone like Ryan’s case too fragile to do a new contract to 2027 that is paid mostly in 2026

Our younger players are still proving themselves and in any case I’m not a fan of front loading contracts for younger players because if they do improve they become a target for other clubs offering them money because they’re on a backend money that’s artificially reduced and below their new value

And all the 2024 draftees, plus Harley, are on predetermined contracts that for the most part can’t be increased/changed

 

[Obeanie1]

Oh I agree but it's not BW or JW that should be moved on. Others before them.

Blight would be a great get. Very happy there.
Tsatas. Well, he'd help with clearances and suit out current protocol on kicking skills.
Philips I like but I'm but Clay Hall or Jack Graham might object (certainly can't play all 3)
Sheldrick would cost too much in draft capital.

We now must have a Kings ransom in cap space, we need to be very aggressive and land a big fish or two.

What do you feel Sheldrick would cost out of contract?

Our 2nd would be generous IMO. Very generous.

Considering our past two natural 2nd rounders have landed us A Reid and Shanahan.

I wouldnt trade either of those kids for Sheldrick.

So Hawks 2nd at the most?

 

[Cursedsword02]

I may be jumping the gun here, but could Jordon Sweet from Port be gettable? They're apparently favoring Visentini over him as far as the starting ruckman goes.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

• Move all of Yeo’s and Kelly’s 2027 money into 2026
• Same with Owies, although if he doesn’t improve we should consider paying him out his 2027 contract and delist him next year. Too soon to do it this year
• Move money in the contracts for Waterman and Baker (2029) and Duggan and Graham (2028) into 2026
• Hewett (2026), Ginbey (2027) and Hough (2028) could also have their respective contracts fiddled with to front load some into 2026

There’s not much more we can do.

Our other veterans are either out of contract this year and may be cut or aren’t in a position to justify contracts beyond 2026 or in someone like Ryan’s case too fragile to do a new contract to 2027 that is paid mostly in 2026

Our younger players are still proving themselves and in any case I’m not a fan of front loading contracts for younger players because if they do improve they become a target for other clubs offering them money because they’re on a backend money that’s artificially reduced and below their new value

And all the 2024 draftees, plus Harley, are on predetermined contracts that for the most part can’t be increased/changed

You can’t do that. There are rules on frontloaded. A contracted can’t be structured in a way where there is more than a 50% reduction from one year to the next.

Assuming Yeo is on 750K for next two years, the most we could is move 250K from 2027 to 2026 to make payments 1m in 2026 then 500k in 2027.

Ginbey and Hewett signed 3 and 2 year extensions to 2027 and 2026 respectively. I assume they’d be standard 5-600k contract extensions most first round picks sign early. There wouldn’t be much money in the contracts to frontload.

I’d consider extending Hewett to free agency in 2029 and offering a new contract frontloading the money. But he may wish to hold off on extending given he is improving quickly.

If we bring in Cameron and/or Erasmus we would be looking to front load those deals.

Baker we could front load quite a bit given it had 4 years to run at about 900K and believe he was not well paid at tigers.

It could be 1.3, 1.1, 700k, 500.

Waterman also has 4 years left on around 1m per year, so we would look to front load his deal as well.

if we bring anyone in, we’d need to frontload their deal such as a Cameron or possibly even an Erasmus.

 

[Mop]

I may be jumping the gun here, but could Jordon Sweet from Port be gettable? They're apparently favoring Visentini over him as far as the starting ruckman goes.

I wouldn't have thought so being a SA native, but you never know. Throw some over and above $$$ and see what sticks

 

[Obeanie1]

Keeping it simple.

Salary freed up ahead of plan

2026
McGovern - $600k
Allen - $900k
Sheed - $700k

So about $2.2m next year needs spending.

Then2027 - 2030
Allen - $900k - Needs someone worth that to spend on

 

[Alesana]

Do we know what Kelly would be getting paid for 26/27?

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

What do you feel Sheldrick would cost out of contract?

Our 2nd would be generous IMO. Very generous.

Considering our past two natural 2nd rounders have landed us A Reid and Shanahan.

I wouldnt trade either of those kids for Sheldrick.

So Hawks 2nd at the most?

I don't think so, our second about right. Draft thins out there a bit.

Sheldrick starting to show a bit too.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I may be jumping the gun here, but could Jordon Sweet from Port be gettable? They're apparently favoring Visentini over him as far as the starting ruckman goes.

I think it was GoEaglesGoSGIO and myself that wanted him targeted over Flynn a few years ago.
Safe to say, I still agree.

 

[Godfather32]

I think it was GoEaglesGoSGIO and myself that wanted him targeted over Flynn a few years ago.
Safe to say, I still agree.

Turned us down didn't he?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Turned us down didn't he?

Yeah he did but it we really should have just made him a massive offer and got it done. It was our biggest misstep in many many years. Some players you just gotta say "what will it take for you to say yes" and make it happen

Not 100% sure id take him now as id rather we go absoluely nuclear on it and make sure its either Ned Moyle/Darcy Cameron/Lloyd Meek we get, probably in that order.

Im still in the give Ned Moyle 1 mill a year type belief here. A insane gamble but its one worth taking

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If I had a dollar for every time you suggested just throwing a ridiculous amount of money at player X, I could buy Waverley Park off Hawthorn.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If I had a dollar for every time you suggested just throwing a ridiculous amount of money at player X, I could buy Waverley Park off Hawthorn.

How else do you get a contracted player to move his entire life to a different state? Its kinda the path you are forced to take here. It seems to have worked out well for Adelaide in any case. If we overpaid for Peatling/Cumming we would be in alot better spot today then we are now

 

[amazingjoshy]

I think it was GoEaglesGoSGIO and myself that wanted him targeted over Flynn a few years ago.
Safe to say, I still agree.

He was dropped because oppo rucks were murdering him. Tim English had 27 touches, 30 hitouts and 3 goals against him

Not sure throwing a huge contract at him moves the needle at all

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

How else do you get a contracted player to move his entire life to a different state? Its kinda the path you are forced to take here. It seems to have worked out well for Adelaide in any case. If we overpaid for Peatling/Cumming we would be in alot better spot today then we are now

A contracted player? Neither of Peatling or Cumming were contracted. Cumming was a free agent.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

A contracted player? Neither of Peatling or Cumming were contracted. Cumming was a free agent.

Im talking Ned Moyle and Darcy Cameron re: contract.

In the end we are not doing the greatest job at recruiting in case no one noticed and I dont see the point of constantly pushing salary cap space to 2027 when we suck as much as we do. Id rather try and get better with that money as opposed to giving our underperforming team payrises to stay over the floor

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Im talking Ned Moyle and Darcy Cameron re: contract.

Oh of course, we were talking about Jordon Sweet and you brought up Peatling and Cumming, I should have realised you meant Moyle and Cameron

 

[Mop]

I'm basing this off nothing but vibes and feels, but I reckon Ned Moyle will, by the time his career ends, be AA at least once.
Rate him highly.