List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Dark Sharks]

People can call it bed wetting or what ever they want but the this list team has shown they can do some stupid things, pick 3, trading out of a super draft instead of a thin draft and even the Hutchinson and Kelly’s extra year extensions.

People are just waiting for the next thing and that’s probably fair enough in current form.

True, but there's no point crying about something before its even happened.

The Baker trade looks a hell of a lot better after the fact knowing that bloke is going to win our B&F and has put in a decent shift all season with Graham Even more so with Allen's downfall, Yeo dead, career over for McGovern and Sheed whilst Watermans season done.

Mowies has been rubbish and Allan over Murphy Reid looks dumber each and every week unfortunately.

The Kelly extension is absolutely absurd and I'd be happy if someone lost their job over it. Hutchinson also needs an explanation. Agree there. I don't have confidence in our list management either, but one draft Tweet isn't worth the fuss.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

4) Harley and Liam Ryan for picks 6,7, Zac Reid, Elijah Tsatas and Nick Bryan.

The draft is way too far away for this amount of bed wetting already

At least wait until trade week.

Jeez this board is full of posters who jump at shadows and shit the bed.

Let it go. Specilation can be toxic

 

[tigger_ferret]

I doubt the pick split with GC has any real substance at this stage, however it would be foolish on several levels.

-Trading a top end pick for GC mid-late sloppy picks is a marginal call at best (particularly in this draft)

• it would likely indicate not bidding on any of the NGA, all of which have merit going in the first few picks.
• It gives the Nepo baby even more free charity by getting ahead of any potential bids.

The sad thing is a recent history suggests we are dumb enough to do this

 

[shoutsatclouds]

We've changed from wet sheets to shitty sheets?

Phwoar.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Taranto for Pick 2.

Pick 1 to get it over the line because we made a commitment.

 

[archiemoses]

Considering the only time in recent history we haven't split an early pick was because it was Harley Reid, means there's every likelihood we split, almost rusted on if we have two early picks.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Taranto for Pick 2.

Pick 1 to get it over the line because we made a commitment.

He's the Sharp risk. The risk with Sharp is that he's a Taranto.

But Clark will do this trade, for sure.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I don't know. There's people here prepared to take him at 2. What I do know, it it starts getting real slim, real quick.

Lack of consensus on the top 6 picks shows you the drop off point is really at pick 1. Those critical of trading any potential Allen compo haven't done a great job of explaining who'd they take at 2 and why that player won't be available at say pick 8 or 12.

The assessment of this board that we should take Sharp probably highlights this. His kicking is average but he's a competitive beast and physical (more so than Greeves) & with no access to Uwland and Annables he's an obvious choice.

 

[Barrybran]

The Kelly extension is absolutely absurd and I'd be happy if someone lost their job over it. Hutchinson also needs an explanation.

We still need depth. As the Petrucelles and Hunts fall off our list, the Kellys and Hutchinsons become that depth as younger, better players are added to the list. Keeping them on raises our floor, not improves our best 23.

 

[CountryLad]

Barring some disastrous Ashton Moir drop off in form he’ll 100% go top 10 excl. bids and I reckon top 5.

If we took Fred with the best of those picks then I worry who we’d take with the other ones, which will be in the 20s.

Hard to see him dropping off in form.

As you know Moir wasn’t a drop off in form either he was simply never that good. Got talked up in some early season rankings as top 10 material and some people in here spend the best part of 5 months talking about him like he was some unicorn.

 

[WA footy mad]

Taranto for Pick 2.

Pick 1 to get it over the line because we made a commitment.

Must be a Richmond supporter or are you looking at another Toranto. Pick 30 for Richmond Toranto. Please no more Richmond leftovers.

 

[Obeanie1]

Different crew did that deal.

Talking the last year. You can bury your head if you wish but besides putting the draft pretty much on auto pick, this list team hasn’t done much that would give anyone any confidence with trades and contracts imo.

So a single trade period didnt go as you wanted?

And its......

 

[eaglevision]

Hard to see him dropping off in form.

As you know Moir wasn’t a drop off in form either he was simply never that good. Got talked up in some early season rankings as top 10 material and some people in here spend the best part of 5 months talking about him like he was some unicorn.

Think that’s a bit harsh on Moir, he had a very good underage year and I’d be surprised if any club didn’t have him in their top 10 at the start of 2023. Had some bad injuries (hip in particular) that curtailed his top age year and he slipped to the back of the 1R.

He’s kicked 16 goals in 11 VFL games this year including 4 last week, certainly not the star he looked like being as an under ager but that’s not a bad return for the role he plays.

 

[Dark Sharks]

We still need depth. As the Petrucelles and Hunts fall off our list, the Kellys and Hutchinsons become that depth as younger, better players are added to the list. Keeping them on raises our floor, not improves our best 23.

Yep true, it's more so the duration of both though.

Kellys form/interest has dropped off so badly in 12 months, giving him 2 years rather than 1 year is just silly. Any young draftee (gross/Grego) would be capable of replicating his output this year, and they'd at least have growth for improvement.

Hutchinson likely has improvement in him (unlike Kelly) but still, the length of that contract is just not needed. In 2 years time if he's still the same player he is now... There's going to be a lot of unhappy people annoyed with the fact he's still got another 2 years left on the list. Why?

 

[CountryLad]

Think that’s a bit harsh on Moir, he had a very good underage year and I’d be surprised if any club didn’t have him in their top 10 at the start of 2023. Had some bad injuries (hip in particular) that curtailed his top age year and he slipped to the back of the 1R.

He’s kicked 16 goals in 11 VFL games this year including 4 last week, certainly not the star he looked like being as an under ager but that’s not a bad return for the role he plays.

Nah I didn’t rate him. Thought his underage year was hyped too. Claims he could kick left and right foot 50m ect were inaccurate.
He will be an average afl player at best.

 

[eaglevision]

Nah I didn’t rate him. Thought his underage year was hyped too. Claims he could kick left and right foot 50m ect were inaccurate.
He will be an average afl player at best.

I know you didn’t. Average AFL player is about right and is probably roughly what you’d expect from a pick 29.

Cumming is a far better prospect, far more strings to his bow which is what I loved about him at the start of the year. Would love to pair him and Sharp.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Nah I didn’t rate him. Thought his underage year was hyped too. Claims he could kick left and right foot 50m ect were inaccurate.
He will be an average afl player at best.

There were literally highlights of him kicking 50 m goals on both feet

 

[CountryLad]

There were literally highlights of him kicking 50 m goals on both feet

If you say so. Pittonet kicked one from 60m out the other night but it’s not an accurate description of his kicking ability because he’s done it once.

 

[bzparkes]

There were literally highlights of him kicking 50 m goals on both feet

Can he dropkick the ball from 50, or something?

Impressive if true.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Lucas Robinson and Toby Whan both Freo-tied?

Robinson 34 touches 1.1, Whan 27 touches 1.1 in the colts today.

 

[LewyBroome]

I reckon bid on all of Annable, Uwland, Patterson at pick 1. If they’re all matched. Then get Sharp.

 

[eaglevision]

I reckon bid on all of Annable, Uwland, Patterson at pick 1. If they’re all matched. Then get Sharp.

Unless we cut a deal…

But would happily take any of them at pick 1 if a bid is passed.

 

[Elite Pete]

So a single trade period didnt go as you wanted?

And its......

Who says I’m out? Still watch every game and show as much internet as ever ect. I just understand when reg flags start appearing it might not be safe to bank on the current list management team will make great decisions. Who knows TK might turn his form around like Sidebottom from a couple of years ago and Hutch might be the next Heeney and they will look like a genius. All of those could’ve happened without the extra year/s.

It’s also not a single trade period. It’s now a trade period and worrying contract extensions.

 

[Elite Pete]

True, but there's no point crying about something before its even happened.

The Baker trade looks a hell of a lot better after the fact knowing that bloke is going to win our B&F and has put in a decent shift all season with Graham Even more so with Allen's downfall, Yeo dead, career over for McGovern and Sheed whilst Watermans season done.

Mowies has been rubbish and Allan over Murphy Reid looks dumber each and every week unfortunately.

The Kelly extension is absolutely absurd and I'd be happy if someone lost their job over it. Hutchinson also needs an explanation. Agree there. I don't have confidence in our list management either, but one draft Tweet isn't worth the fuss.

That’s a decent rap sheet in 12 months?

No tears here and list management can’t be judge after 12’omths (Bo might be Fyfe, TK come good, Hutch might be Heeney) All that could happen but could’ve played out different. It’s fair to see why fans have lost confidence in what this list team might do next and it’s also fair to say it might be something not great.

 

[ziad]

Considering the only time in recent history we haven't split an early pick was because it was Harley Reid, means there's every likelihood we split, almost rusted on if we have two early picks.

We just need more semi skilled HBF.
The game is won with class mids and KP players (prioritising forwards)