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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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2019
Jamieson at pick 49
Johnson at pick 58.

2020
Edwards at pick 52
Winder at pick 57.

Absolute trash.

But we did take 4 picks in the top 40 the year before:

2018

O'Neil at Pick 28
Foley at Pick 31
B. Williams at Pick 35
Cameron at Pick 39

Frustrated Clint Eastwood GIF
 
Yeah true but you don't sacrifice 2 drafts of top 50 players worth of talent for tim Kelly.
Carlton didn't even do it for Chris Judd and Kelly isnt any where near Judd.

At least if we held our 4 picks and told Geelong to **** off we had a chance at picking up at least 2 decent players that could be in our midfield with Harley reid now.

Imagine if we picked up Chad Warner and Devon Robertson out of those 4 picks. We would have an a grade and a big body mid to help reid right now.
Dev is WAFL level, Tim was our B&F
 
Almost the end of 2025 and another wooden spoon year winning 1 game and people are still excusing our shitness as if it was out of the blue and couldn't be anticipated.

I mean it's not like we've been in the comp for 40 years and never had players decline in performance at 30 years old is it now....
2019....most of our best players at 26 or 27....yeah they will last until 35 at least unlike our previous stars let's sell the farm for Kelly..fmd it was a bad kneejerk reaction to a ****ed up 2017 draft and the club tried to undo it by sacrificing our future which is now for 1 more flag supposedly.

Jeebus mcreebus the last 4 years is proof IT WAS A WRONG DECISION
 

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Not many players play to their maximum til the day they retire, especially west Aussies(albeit he had a late start and plsyed in vic)but i agree he's definitely lacking some passion and the contract extension was baffling but copping attention from opposition teams for years in a piss poor team can wear you down i guess
Anyway happy to agree on some points but mainly I disagree that the tim Kelly trade set us back years

You disagree...oh well the last 4 years of on field performance disagrees with you.
 
There is very little that is defensible about the club's recent history, but the Kelly trade made sense at the time. Didn't work out, and the two year contract extension gives me no confidence the club has learned any lessons, but the thought of Nic Nat tapping it down to Shuey, Yeo, Kelly, Redden with the good Hutch taking out the opposition’s best mid, all in a world where covid never happened, makes me hard.

Nic Nat won a couple of AA's and a couple of Woosha Medals in that time, but everyone else died around him, until he too died carrying the entire midfield on his mighty shoulders :(
 
Developing/depth players:
Ah Chee - 26 : 1 game
Nelson - 23 : 13 games
Waterman - 21 : 13 games
Rotham - 21 : 4 games
Ainsworth - 21 : 0 games
Allen - 20 : 21 games
Petruccelle - 20 : 20 games
Brander - 20 : 2 games
Foley - 20 : 0 games
Edwards - 19 : 0 games
Williams - 19 : 0 games
O’Neill - 19 : 0 games
Cameron - 19 : 7 games
Injuries to top tier players extended into this year have played major part in the steep decline but the developing/depth players in the end were a lot more misses than hits in the above list. Most were late draft selection due to the success of the club though.
 
At the end of 2019 -

Premiership/core players:
Kennedy - 32 : 22 games
Hurn - 32 : 21 games
Jetta - 30 : 22 games
Schofield - 30 : 14 games
Naitanui - 29 : 5 games
Shuey - 29 : 24 games
Redden - 29 : 23 games
Sheppard - 28 : 24 games
Hutchings - 28 : 18 games
Vardy - 28 : 11 games
McGovern - 27 : 23 games
Gaff - 27 : 22 games
Darling - 27 : 24 games
Cripps - 27 : 19 games
Yeo - 26 : 23 games
Barrass - 24 : 14 games
Sheed - 24 : 24 games
Rioli - 24 : 14 games
Duggan - 23 : 15 games
Ryan - 23 : 24 games
Cole - 22 : 14 games
Venables - 21 : 6 games

Developing/depth players:
Ah Chee - 26 : 1 game
Nelson - 23 : 13 games
Waterman - 21 : 13 games
Rotham - 21 : 4 games
Ainsworth - 21 : 0 games
Allen - 20 : 21 games
Petruccelle - 20 : 20 games
Brander - 20 : 2 games
Foley - 20 : 0 games
Edwards - 19 : 0 games
Williams - 19 : 0 games
O’Neill - 19 : 0 games
Cameron - 19 : 7 games

Kelly was 25 and played all 25 games for Geelong in 2019, finished top 5 in the Brownlow, top 2 in Geelong’s B&F and was named on the wing in the AA side

Hurn, McGovern, Darling and Yeo all made the 2019 AA team whilst Shuey, Gaff and Sheppard were all in the 40 man squad

To say we misread where our list was at in 2019 is Captain Hindsight areas at its finest. There was no reason not to believe we were right in the mix for another flag and that Kelly would add significantly to our midfield group

Aside from Kennedy and Hurn, our core players were all under 30 and the majority had played all or most games in 2019 with no indication of the injury carnage to come

In it’s first year the standalone WAFL side made finals, winning one and losing the other by less than a kick suggesting we had some decent talent coming through at the time - even if many of those players failed to come on as anticipated

There’s no way the club could have anticipated what was to come and how impacted the careers of so many key players would be derailed by injury. The belief would have been that list could contend for another 3 years before the core group of players reached 30 and beyond

The cliff came far sooner and more abruptly than anyone could have reasonably foreseen
Spot on. Go to any of the top 4 teams and rip out their best five players and see how quickly they drop. That's pretty much what happened to us. There won't be any green shoots because you can't draft high end when finishing up top (unless you have an academy). That is why Richmond is right next to us at the bottom of the ladder and will be for some time.

The part in our control that we stuffed wasn't recruiting, it was managing the soft cap cuts with COVID. Other clubs managed to do less with more. We pretty much failed to maintain good performance in any football department area, particularly strength and conditioning, and our standards plummeted.
 
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Injuries to top tier players extended into this year have played major part in the steep decline but the developing/depth players in the end were a lot more misses than hits in the above list. Most were late draft selection due to the success of the club though.

The injuries this year have been ridiculously laser-focussed on our best players on every line:

Waterman and Allen: Best key forwards, both capable of 50 goal seasons. Waterman reigning AA, Allen captain.
Yeo and Sheed: Best midfielder (reigning AA) and Sheed is at the absolute worst, a WAFL leader (which we lack) but one capable of racking it up at AFL level too, which is something none of our other mids are capable of.
Gov: Best defender, reigning AA and all-time great a year after we traded our second best defender.
 
Seriously dude. Just watch the last 4 years of our games again.
It hasn't been hammered into your head still.
During COVID Tim wone a few for us with individual effort. He isnt Judd but he is honest and has some abilities although required to play outsice his best zone. He was the best we had on the field. Thats doesn't makes us a great team but dont hang the individual. DEV isn't an AFL player, so I dont see your excitement.
 

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During COVID Tim wone a few for us with individual effort. He isnt Judd but he is honest and has some abilities although required to play outsice his best zone. He was the best we had on the field. Thats doesn't makes us a great team but dont hang the individual. DEV isn't an AFL player, so I dont see your excitement.

So during 2020 he was great.
Sweet

He's not worth 4 picks though and Dev was an example not an excitement.
 

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The club is well aware of how fast our players fall off the cliff after 30. We were only 2-3 years away from most of those players going south with injury and performance quickly.

Kids need to be brought in to replenish outlr list quicker than other clubs who don't travel 80000km a year

Hurn is a rarity.

They ****ed up the 2017 draft taking brander and then ****ed it up by trading our future for Kelly.

No amount of spin absolves Simpson and Nisbett and co of this era we find ourselves in.
Let us not forget that Simmo DID take us to two GF's and winning probably the shiniest GF of the 21st century. We must always spin the coin both ways.
 
Let us not forget that Simmo DID take us to two GF's and winning probably the shiniest GF of the 21st century. We must always spin the coin both ways.

And he has been provided much acknowledgment for doing so. He got all the credit he deserved.
Now he his receiving all the acknowledgment he deserves for how he left us.
 
Let us not forget that Simmo DID take us to two GF's and winning probably the shiniest GF of the 21st century. We must always spin the coin both ways.

Are we talking about 2018 or 2019 draft and Kelly etc...
 
That isnt how drafts work, every club has taken a player ahead of a better one in virtually every draft since the beginning of time. Any successful rookie has by default been overlooked by every club.

Kelly also didnt vacuum up 4 vacant list spots so I'm not sure what you mean by "4 players for 1"

It was perfectly valid logic at the time as Keys has outlined, and no one on here was screaming about it at the time.
Plenty on here were critical of the Kelly trade at the time because of the high price we paid.
 
And he has been provided much acknowledgment for doing so. He got all the credit he deserved.
Now he his receiving all the acknowledgment he deserves for how he left us.
I prefer to look at it differently, no GF wins at all and in comparison a competing team now.
Give me the GF please, sometimes we want it all but that's not how AFL works .
 
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