List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Keys]

You have always been an apologist in how poorly the club is run .

Bold claim from someone who signed up a week ago

 

[Obeanie1]

4 years on a 30 year old ruck who would be required to get on a plane every other week is very poor list management.

We have seen countless times the travel burden cuts our talls careers short .

Here we are not willing to extend barrass then throwing ridiculous money and years at someone the same age

How much travel and "milage" does Cameron have "on the clock" compared to Barrass?

Rucks don't rely on speed so they play later and older. Full backs lose their pace it's all over.

 

[Obeanie1]

hahaha all of a sudden we have dodged a bullet with that crab Cameron. Can always rely on this board for the humour it provides. He signs and we have the man we wanted. He doesn't sign and he is a crap player and we dodged a bullet.
It's just gold!!

Who said he was crap?

 

[Mulldogg]

Moyle still playing ressies. I know Witts is getting on so GC are unlikely to budge but his stat line from the weekend looks pretty good for a 23yo 206cm ruck.

19 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 31 hitouts and 1.0.

Up against Pittonet too who is no slouch.

Throw the chequebook at him. I reckon the Sun’s cap would be pretty tight.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

****ing hell imagine turning down $1 million not to play with us.

And people still say "we're not Norf" lol

The pies are the Eagles of 2020. The end is nigh

 

[stallon]

With the potential changes to ruck rules to do away with the wrestling, the days of the big oafs may be over. Cameron, Darcy, Flynn, ROB, etc. Add to that Cameron's age and the cost of acquiring him, and it feels like we dodged a bullet.

This, plus the likely change for the umpire to just throw it up rather than wait for the rucks to get into position makes me feel like CDT is a better pick than many would like.
Add in the 5th bench spot removing the sub and more teams will be running 2 ruckmen, mobile rucks being favoured.

Anyone for Archer + CDT as our 2 rucks in a few years time? Both mobile, both decent around the ground with Archer able to play KPP and CDT being more of a midfielder type

If one of the young WA ruckmen coming through in the next couple years fall into our laps we could put Archer back into a KPP role too, plenty of flexibility

 

[Keys]

****ing hell imagine turning down $1 million not to play with us.

And people still say "we're not Norf" lol

$1m over 4 years is $250k per year (before tax)

Plays two thirds of his games at the MCG each year and gets on a plane maybe 6 times compared to 10+ flights a year across the country

Has reasonable prospects of winning another premiership which he won’t have at West Coast

Reports were he was also settled in Melbourne and not in any particular rush to come home

We’re at the stage of our rebuild where we need to be targeting players who are desperate to return home to WA and/or aren’t getting regular opportunity at their current club. Ideally those types can come cheap

hahaha all of a sudden we have dodged a bullet with that crab Cameron. Can always rely on this board for the humour it provides. He signs and we have the man we wanted. He doesn't sign and he is a crap player and we dodged a bullet.
It's just gold!!

Cameron would have been an upgrade and a handy addition to our side, if only for 3-4 years so it’s a shame he decided to stay at Collingwood

The concern with him was always the premium Collingwood would have requested in a trade for a contracted player and whether that would be the best use of that draft/trade capital. In that sense I understand why some posters are relieved the possibility of us overpaying has been removed

 

[RanaNaved]

This, plus the likely change for the umpire to just throw it up rather than wait for the rucks to get into position makes me feel like CDT is a better pick than many would like.
Add in the 5th bench spot removing the sub and more teams will be running 2 ruckmen, mobile rucks being favoured.

Anyone for Archer + CDT as our 2 rucks in a few years time? Both mobile, both decent around the ground with Archer able to play KPP and CDT being more of a midfielder type

If one of the young WA ruckmen coming through in the next couple years fall into our laps we could put Archer back into a KPP role too, plenty of flexibility

I'm keen on CDT.

I feel like a lot of people have greatly exaggerated his flaws and interestingly a lot of them are the same folk who are overlooking Sharps' flaws. It's weird, very tribal

 

[jdisc]

can Dev play in the ruck?

 

[Monocle]

I'm keen on CDT.

I feel like a lot of people have greatly exaggerated his flaws and interestingly a lot of them are the same folk who are overlooking Sharps' flaws. It's weird, very tribal

And turn about to you can also be applied with how you view CDT.

 

[BartBart]

This is the best news. Takes Cameron out of our hands so we can't make the stupid decision.
It does probably kick the Ruck can down the road for another 12 months though.

I just don't want us to take CDT. it'll be another Barnett. Calling it now.
(Would be happy if wrong though)

Don't think we can afford to kick the can down the road.

 

[RanaNaved]

And turn about to you can also be applied with how you view CDT.

Haha, I rate him as highly as seemingly everyone else bar WC Bigfooty

 

[Hasselhough]

Bold claim from someone who signed up a week ago

Fair call long time user with a new account at least I didn't name my new account toddy nisbett

 

[Hasselhough]

I'm keen on CDT.

I feel like a lot of people have greatly exaggerated his flaws and interestingly a lot of them are the same folk who are overlooking Sharps' flaws. It's weird, very tribal

It because CDT has been likened to Jackson.

In reality he is more like broady Grundy.

Grundy was touted as top 5 also then slid hard

Sharpe is very much Langford from last year where his flaws in lack of pace were that he wouldn't transition to afl .

Langford is doing well because you cant teach being a ball magnet . Guys like them will just know where to run and keep racking it up

 

[Barrybran]

Don't think we can afford to kick the can down thr road.

Of course we can. A competitive ruck would be nice now but we don't need one until 2028-2029.

As good as it would have been to have got Cameron, we're now faced with the dilemma of spending draft capital on the likes of Reeves, Teakle, Reidy, etc., draft CDT, or be patient with Williams/Flynn and bring in that player when we're moving up.

I think we're better off building around the ruck position for now. It does make CDT a more attractive option but most premiership sides of late have had average rucks, which we should be able to find at the bottom end of the draft.

 

[Woobla Stainz]

Archer Reid has showed a fair bit in the ruck for a very young player, will probably put on a fair bit of muscle in the off season.
It will be very interesting to see what WC do come draft night.

Yep think he could be our solution. Competes hard, great contested mark around the ground, good work rate and the right height.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

hahaha all of a sudden we have dodged a bullet with that crab Cameron. Can always rely on this board for the humour it provides. He signs and we have the man we wanted. He doesn't sign and he is a crap player and we dodged a bullet.
It's just gold!!

I like Cameron and always have. I'm glad we've missed out on him from a list profile perspective. Flynn has less than half the games experience of Cameron. In Camerons case he's only been a full time ruck for four years and stats wise Flynn is a similar player to Cameron circa 2022.

In 3 years time there is no reason to believe Flynn won't have a similar output to Cameron now and no reason why Cameron wouldn't have slowed down given his age.

There is also a lot of froth on Cameron playing in a much more competitive side.

 

[WCE777]

My last info was that Soldo wants to return to Melbourne and after TDK goes to the Saints, he will get dragged along in the ruck merry go round and find himself a home back in Melbourne.

Our best bet is to also throw our hand into the same merry go round and see if we can lure a ruck upgrade to join us.

Won't be easy to convince someone to join us, as we are so shitty a team at the minute.

To all those celebrating and happy that Cameron is now off the table, don't bitch , moan and complain next year when we once again get smashed in the clearances and at stoppages ( and consequently not win games ).

I feel that Archer will be a very good option BUT - long term in three to four years time, so if we miss out on securing any sort of upgrade in the ruck position, then we are stuck with the substandard ruck combination that we currently have.

So I tend to agree with those who are resigned with the fact, that our ruck situation won't be improved for the 2026 season and we will again be stuck with Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.

I still think this, we are sub standard in the ruck department with 2 2nd ruck options and its no secret the club knows this by going after English and Cameron and missing both.
A Reid is developing as quick as one would expect, I actually think he is developing as a ruck much faster than we could hope for.
The number 1 thing with A Reid is he shouldn't be rushed and agree he is 3-4 years away from being a decent option, don't rush and break him.
If TDK goes to STK, where does that leave R Marshall, solid option without being Cameron??

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

What would be an acceptable trade for Chesser?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

It because CDT has been likened to Jackson.

In reality he is more like broady Grundy.

Grundy was touted as top 5 also then slid hard

I don't mind CDT but for a side with ground ball issues we need to really address our work at the contest and positive passages from that, fastest way to turn around performance is this area of our list. Not to mention the chance of CDT a draft miss is also statistically higher than a midfielder.

We could get Duursma, CDT and Farrow with our first three picks and all would be fine pick ups. The problem is we need to address our ground ball game and quickly. Fast forward to 2027 and we'll be pumping out the HBF with midfield potential memes as hard as ever.

Maybe we can do a trade with Essendon and get back into the midfield group. But I don't know there needs.

 

[Hasselhough]

Archer Reid has showed a fair bit in the ruck for a very young player, will probably put on a fair bit of muscle in the off season.
It will be very interesting to see what WC do come draft night.

That seems to be a long term solution.

I would really like to have something in place to improve from next season onwards. Archer can be that 3rd tall/2nd ruck for a few years .

With our backs and forwards being directly affected by our horrible midfield having a ruck that could break even while we develop our own is essential .

Both Flynn and BW are not it .

Just get Reidy he is the best wafl ruck as a stop gap and some genuine senior mids to take the midfield load .

 

[Monsterdarlz]

It because CDT has been likened to Jackson.

In reality he is more like broady Grundy.

Grundy was touted as top 5 also then slid hard

Sharpe is very much Langford from last year where his flaws in lack of pace were that he wouldn't transition to afl .

Langford is doing well because you cant teach being a ball magnet . Guys like them will just know where to run and keep racking it up

Grundy has a significantly better ruckman then CDT was at under 18s level was cleaning up the hit outs and his althesicm meant his follow up work was elite. Grundy sliding was a product of high level prospects like Hampson, Kruezer, Leunburger, Gorringe ect not living up to the high picks invested in them given the premier rucks at the time where Cox, Sandilands and Goldstein all where picked up pretty late.

 

[ThePuma #9]

both Bolton and rioli were heavily contacted. If Richmond wanted to keep them they would have .

Richmond got lucky that 2 of the teams they wanted to deal with are the 2 biggest push overs in us and GC .

That is the way to maximise your trading position.

Saying we don't want to lose them whilst telling managers they might be available at the right price

Say they are a required player .

Say it would take an extraordinary deal to trade them .

Yet we say nah they are shit and won't be on a list next year then get nothing ala brander

Or say yeah pick 14 is what we will pay for Baker before we even have that pick

Then why did their CEO give their departing premiership players a sly clip at the best and fairest for not sticking around for the upcoming hard times?

It's their last time at the club, wouldn't you congratulate and thank them for all their service? The trades are done, no need to pretend any longer.

Contracts mean nothing these days, if a players asks to leave and you can get fair compensation you just do the deal and move on. It doesn't mean you're happy about it.

I'm not disagreeing with all your points but the remark Richmond were keen to let them go doesn't add up.

 

[Hasselhough]

How much travel and "milage" does Cameron have "on the clock" compared to Barrass?

Rucks don't rely on speed so they play later and older. Full backs lose their pace it's all over.

Maybe rucks that have the privilege of playing 18 games in Victoria where they don't have to travel.

The end comes fast for most talls on this side of the country unfortunately sure you have pav and Cox but they are the exception.

Cameron is on 3 years at the pies .

I think he will be managed through that period and get 3 reasonable years

I doubt we would get 3 reasonable years out Cameron let alone 4 .

 

[Barrybran]

What would be an acceptable trade for Chesser?

Swapping your TDK compo for the Hawks' 1st probably works for both clubs. Slightly in our favour if anything but I imagine you guys want to get above or below a bid for Dean.