List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[stallon]

But are they any good though is what I'm getting at. If they are only middling talents then they are simply cover until we get someone else like Duggan and Graham.

Which top level talents will we be able to get to fill the gap?
We don't need a best 22 full of top tier talent, no club has that.

Especially if we don't get Warner, we need something.
Sheldrick people like, people don't like Johnson or Erasmus because of ???
They'd fill the same purpose.
We are waiting until Hewett and Reid are ready to own the midfield, and then any future first round pick mids. They'll have to be 22+ years old to take the reigns, that's at least a couple years away

 

[WCE777]

There really arent many AFL-ready rucks sitting at other AFL clubs right now.
The only ones going around who might be gettable in my opinion this year are Pittonet, Reidy and Reeves, all who I think are unlikely and none are better than Flynn anyway.

Cameron wouldnt be that expensive, I think the Pies would have an easier time grabbing one of the cheaper rucks like the ones I listed than we would, to replace Cameron. Cameron certainly would be a nice upgrade on our rucks and would fill the next 3 years or so until we can find something more permanent

Unless we thnk we can find someone better than Flynn in the state leagues... but I think any player like that would get snatched up pretty quickly

Agree, Cameron is the best of the possible gettable.
I think WC chasing Cameron is a fair acknowledgement that our rucks are very average to poor.
We have capable fwd/rucks JW and Archer that can grow into that role and be our 2nd ruck option soon enough.
The number 1 ruck is fairly poor and like you mention the best of the possible gettables is Cameron and Reidy would be next in line imo.
WC could be bold enough to bring in Cameron for 3 years, let BW go for more opportunities and keep Flynn until his contract expires the end of 2026 if he has a strong season or if he doesn't trade Reidy in at the end of this year and pay out Flynn's contract or keep him on as a rookie and his ruck coach job with the AFLW side.
That will solve the number 1 ruck spot for several years, Cameron 3, Reidy 6-7 years.
Go and buy another ruck when we need 1 is the cheapest option.
The next best option long term is a young man who has just taken up AFL playing for SD I believe, Murdoch who is 206cm at 19yo, get him into our beagles team and if he shows promise rookie him.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Idk if they'd have any interest, but even a Johnson or Erasmus from freo would have to have a little value to us.
Theyre older than the rest of our young mids, and if we miss on Sheldrick they're probably next best in that age bracket

Sounds like Murphy Reid has passed them in the pecking order(his ability to play half forward seems to get him over the line).

Johnson's played 37 games in the last 2 years and I reckon will be important in Freo's mid rotation this year, close to next in after Serong, Brayshaw and Young. Would be ahead of Reid

Erasmus could definitely be gettable for not much if he doesn't start getting games this year, which is looking unlikely to start the year

 

[Elite Pete]

There really arent many AFL-ready rucks sitting at other AFL clubs right now.
The only ones going around who might be gettable in my opinion this year are Pittonet, Reidy and Reeves, all who I think are unlikely and none are better than Flynn anyway.

Cameron wouldnt be that expensive, I think the Pies would have an easier time grabbing one of the cheaper rucks like the ones I listed than we would, to replace Cameron. Cameron certainly would be a nice upgrade on our rucks and would fill the next 3 years or so until we can find something more permanent

Unless we thnk we can find someone better than Flynn in the state leagues... but I think any player like that would get snatched up pretty quickly

Soldo is another cheap option. The Richmond connection with Baker, Fridge and Mini.

His wife might not be keen on Perth though.

 

[WCE777]

Johnson's played 37 games in the last 2 years and I reckon will be important in Freo's mid rotation this year, close to next in after Serong, Brayshaw and Young. Would be ahead of Reid

Erasmus could definitely be gettable for not much if he doesn't start getting games this year, which is looking unlikely to start the year

Johnson and Erasmus probably fall into the category of depth players.
Solid without being great, more in the Petch mould at WC, solid but not necessarily best 23, Johnson would be ahead of Erasmus but for a 4th round pick for Johnson or Erasmus being OOC in 2025, is he better than Petch and Chesser?
Better than Chesser as he cant get his body right, Petch trade out Erasmus in and has upside if given a chance, his WAFL form is very good, and at worst a depth player and super beagles player.
I have been against bringing someone like Erasmus in as he is not best 25 for Freo, just maybe Chesser out, Petch out and Erasmus in for not much and same age as Chesser, Hough etc?

 

[stallon]

Soldo is another cheap option. The Richmond connection with Baker, Fridge and Mini.

His wife might not be keen on Perth though.

Yeah, his mrs is why I didnt put him with the others.

Hes one more likely for the Pies if we get Cameron off them imo

 

[stallon]

Johnson's played 37 games in the last 2 years and I reckon will be important in Freo's mid rotation this year, close to next in after Serong, Brayshaw and Young. Would be ahead of Reid

Even if hes getting games, hes hardly going to be one of their main guys, maybe ever.
Brayshaw is the oldest of them too and hes only 25.

If Johnson is happy being the 4th/5th mid forever then good luck to him at Freo.
He'd get a good chance to cement himself in our first onball rotation if he did jump across

Erasmus could definitely be gettable for not much if he doesn't start getting games this year, which is looking unlikely to start the year

I know he gets mentioned here every year, but imo hes worth asking about- unless hes already told us no for whatever reason

 

[stallon]

Agree, Cameron is the best of the possible gettable.
I think WC chasing Cameron is a fair acknowledgement that our rucks are very average to poor.
We have capable fwd/rucks JW and Archer that can grow into that role and be our 2nd ruck option soon enough.
The number 1 ruck is fairly poor and like you mention the best of the possible gettables is Cameron and Reidy would be next in line imo.
WC could be bold enough to bring in Cameron for 3 years, let BW go for more opportunities and keep Flynn until his contract expires the end of 2026 if he has a strong season or if he doesn't trade Reidy in at the end of this year and pay out Flynn's contract or keep him on as a rookie and his ruck coach job with the AFLW side.
That will solve the number 1 ruck spot for several years, Cameron 3, Reidy 6-7 years.
Go and buy another ruck when we need 1 is the cheapest option.
The next best option long term is a young man who has just taken up AFL playing for SD I believe, Murdoch who is 206cm at 19yo, get him into our beagles team and if he shows promise rookie him.

I really dont like Reidy tbh, imo hes a last resort type of option.
Flynn is way better than him

 

[stallon]

Johnson and Erasmus probably fall into the category of depth players.
Solid without being great, more in the Petch mould at WC, solid but not necessarily best 23, Johnson would be ahead of Erasmus but for a 4th round pick for Johnson or Erasmus being OOC in 2025, is he better than Petch and Chesser?
Better than Chesser as he cant get his body right, Petch trade out Erasmus in and has upside if given a chance, his WAFL form is very good, and at worst a depth player and super beagles player.
I have been against bringing someone like Erasmus in as he is not best 25 for Freo, just maybe Chesser out, Petch out and Erasmus in for not much and same age as Chesser, Hough etc?

Youre underrating Johnson and Erasmus.
Both would be way ahead of Petch or Chesser as a midfielder, which is where we really need players.
Erasmus is too similar to Serong/Brayshaw to be worth much to Freo, and Johnson while a bigger body than Serong/brayshaw hes still a slower type who fills the same role.

Theyd both be in our best 22, imo with a good chance to cement a starting onball role

 

[twce13]

WCE777 you gotta use some spaces between your paragraphs, your posts hurt my head.

 

[WCE777]

I really dont like Reidy tbh, imo hes a last resort type of option.
Flynn is way better than him

fair enough, Flynn has 2025 to cement himself as he hasn't done much to date

 

[stallon]

fair enough, Flynn has 2025 to cement himself as he hasn't done much to date

Thats more injury than lack of ability, Flynn has more than shown hes a capable AFL level ruckman when he was at GWS

 

[WCE777]

Youre underrating Johnson and Erasmus.
Both would be way ahead of Petch or Chesser as a midfielder, which is where we really need players.
Erasmus is too similar to Serong/Brayshaw to be worth much to Freo, and Johnson while a bigger body than Serong/brayshaw hes still a slower type who fills the same role.

Theyd both be in our best 22, imo with a good chance to cement a starting onball role

ok, certainly Johnson being the 4th mid at Freo makes him a solid player.
Erasmus on the other hand hasn't broken into Freo's midfield but can see with a decent opputunity he could grow into a solid player.
That's why I said he is probably a Chesser, Petch in our team with potential upside and not cost much.

 

[Phas]

If Petch has a decent enough year, we might be able to offer him to a minnow club like St.K or North Melb. for a 3rd rounder that we could package up for Erasmus.

Neil Erasmus would—at worst—come close to winning a Sandover if he played as our #1 mid in the Beagles in 2026, while also providing some solid, mature depth to cover the aging Yeo/Kelly.

Starcevich is a free, borderline-AA calibre footballer. Even if you don't desperately need them on your list, you take them if they're free of trade capital.

Darcy Cameron for Bailey Williams straight swap would also be a good bit of business if he wants to come back to WA. Not a FA, so we'd need to offer something for him.

Cameron can play Forward/Ruck if Flynn is firing, or could be the lead ruck with a J.Williams or A.Reid double Ruck/Forward combo.

 

[stallon]

If Petch has a decent enough year, we might be able to offer him to a minnow club like St.K or North Melb. for a 3rd rounder that we could package up for Erasmus.

Hes actually a restricted free agent this year. Itd likely be a late pick anyway, but if we go for Starcevich we wont get anything

Neil Erasmus would—at worst—come close to winning a Sandover if he played as our #1 mid in the Beagles in 2026, while also providing some solid, mature depth to cover the aging Yeo/Kelly.

Worst case hes our best WAFL player, more likely hes a solid contributor in our midfield while the likes of Hall/Gross/our 1st pick this year/etc mature

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Petch already being traded, must be close to Round 1 then.

 

[WCE777]

If Petch has a decent enough year, we might be able to offer him to a minnow club like St.K or North Melb. for a 3rd rounder that we could package up for Erasmus.

Neil Erasmus would—at worst—come close to winning a Sandover if he played as our #1 mid in the Beagles in 2026, while also providing some solid, mature depth to cover the aging Yeo/Kelly.

Starcevich is a free, borderline-AA calibre footballer. Even if you don't desperately need them on your list, you take them if they're free of trade capital.

Darcy Cameron for Bailey Williams straight swap would also be a good bit of business if he wants to come back to WA. Not a FA, so we'd need to offer something for him.

Cameron can play Forward/Ruck if Flynn is firing, or could be the lead ruck with a J.Williams or A.Reid double Ruck/Forward combo.

agree
There was interest for him last year but Petch wanted to stay and break into the side, definitely worth that as a FA.
Agree on Erasmus also.
Starcevich is a no brainer if he wants to come for the right price, these types of players only make the side better.
Could swap Cameron and BW and a little bit of late pick back to pies.

 

[stallon]

ok, certainly Johnson being the 4th mid at Freo makes him a solid player.
Erasmus on the other hand hasn't broken into Freo's midfield but can see with a decent opputunity he could grow into a solid player.
That's why I said he is probably a Chesser, Petch in our team with potential upside and not cost much.

Id put them a bit higher than a Chesser or Petch tbh, thats where I was going with my last comment

 

[FKASC]

imagine… we just drafted Johnson like we all wanted

 

[kylealone]

Heard Graham gave Maric a good whack in the guts during the most recent intraclub. He was filthy and it seemed to put him off his game for a few minutes. At first it seems a bit out of order but the message from the coaching staff would've been to put these young boys through their paces and not to hold back. It's such a great lesson to be able to hold your focus despite copping a whack and feeling hard done by.

Saw this happen live on the fan day. Maric was fuming, screaming at him.. To Grahams credit after the siren went he ran straight over to Maric and said something and shook his hand.

 

[WCE_phil]

Seriously, Baker said that?

If the eagles didn't get the deal over the line he would have re-signed at richmond for 2 years.

 

[Dark Sharks]

imagine… we just drafted Johnson like we all wanted

Come on bruv, just give Chesser another 30 more games across 5 more years and you'll see.

 

[FKASC]

Come on bruv, just give Chesser another 30 more games across 5 more years and you'll see.

Johnson slow
Chesser fast

 

[eaglevision]

If Petch has a decent enough year, we might be able to offer him to a minnow club like St.K or North Melb. for a 3rd rounder that we could package up for Erasmus.

Neil Erasmus would—at worst—come close to winning a Sandover if he played as our #1 mid in the Beagles in 2026, while also providing some solid, mature depth to cover the aging Yeo/Kelly.

Starcevich is a free, borderline-AA calibre footballer. Even if you don't desperately need them on your list, you take them if they're free of trade capital.

Darcy Cameron for Bailey Williams straight swap would also be a good bit of business if he wants to come back to WA. Not a FA, so we'd need to offer something for him.

Cameron can play Forward/Ruck if Flynn is firing, or could be the lead ruck with a J.Williams or A.Reid double Ruck/Forward combo.

Petch, along with Cole and Hunt are all free agents, we can’t offer them per se. Best case scenario we get a band 4 offer which would be a pick in the late 30s. More likely would be band 5 which would probably end up early 40s.

Agree on Cameron, someone mentioned Soldo before. I’d happily trade Barnett to Port for Soldo, or a 3 club trade with Cameron to WCE, Barnett to Port and Soldo to the Pies. Sweet could cover Barnett and they will have Marshall back next year. Could work for everyone.

If the offer is BWilliams for Cameron I’d bite their hand off.

 

[Wight Wolf]

Thats more injury than lack of ability, Flynn has more than shown hes a capable AFL level ruckman when he was at GWS

Really, how many games did he show that