List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[SAweagle]

Was thinking more of a banning.
Some boards are more welcoming and tolerant than others.

Still annoys me that I got banned from the Frocker board for asking a logical, polite and relevant question about the on-board hatred for Suma when he was applying for the the Freo gig.

Mate i couldn't give a rats batty about a banning.

If folk want to dish it out they have expect it back.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I would be very nervous about taking W Duursma with a single digit pick.

Both Xavier and Zane looked a million bucks at Under 18 level but neither of them have done much to justify their early selection to date.

Xavier looks a solid B grader and Zane has been pretty underwhelming, all be it from a shallow pool of games to judge him on.

All the Duursma boys gave and now W Duursma gives me, in their respective drafts, scary “Cale Morton” vibes.

Big on talent and small on ticker.
The two youngest of the brothers are spindly pipe - cleaner thin and look like they would snap in a bone crunching tackle or collision.

Now it’s a long, long, long way out from the combine and draft and history tells us that there are probably 10 kids that no one rates as first rounders at this point in time that will ascend as the year goes by.

Also what a fu(Ken shit show the first round of this years first round is going to be - I can see it possible nudging high thirties and may even crack the magical number 40.
Will go down as being the “ War & Peace” of first rounds in the vAFL National Drafts.

But remember Mamma Kane’s reassurance it’s not compromised ….. just complexed.

The very instrument that the AFL set up for Lowly Clubs to use to improve their lists to become more competitive, now has become that convoluted and compromised that the draft, as it was originally intended to serve as an equalisation tool, is actually more favourably slanted to the more successful Clubs.
Also helps immeasurably if you have your own Northern Academy.

The draft mechanism now looks like something that was designed by clusterfu(ks R us.

Geelong must be pretty happy they didn't follow this kind of drafting philosophy when it came to Joel Selwood.

You judge draft talent based on their exploits, not who their brother and sisters were.

There's not a single thing we know about Zane or Xavier that wasn't known about in their draft year.

 

[Monocle]

Geelong must be pretty happy they didn't follow this kind of drafting philosophy when it came to Joel Selwood.

You judge draft talent based on their exploits, not who their brother and sisters were.

There's not a single thing we know about Zane or Xavier that wasn't known about in their draft year.

I am judging him on his exploits and I still maintain that unless he shows something a lot different to what we have seen in the Coates league I wouldn't be using a single digit pick on him.

Once again you and I disagree and thats ok too, you rate him top 5, I don't.

 

[eagles rule]

Did anyone rate the athletic 198 cm Archer May as a prospect or MSD pick ..
I thought he was great for Subiaco v Beagles with very strong hands on a wet damp night and nice kicking action to slot some difficult goals..

 

[Elite Pete]

-we really don’t have room on the list for even more picks this year unless we are booting contracted players

I think this is a chance. Mini will want to shape the list himself and we would have the spare cap space to do it if he wishes. I think we will be bringing in a couple of 22-26 mids in some form.

-if it is pick 1 next year, Cochrane will be highly sought after if he continues on his projection or we can take him (not sure why you think he’s a flight risk he’s only 16?)

Dad already trying to get him tied to PA and his brother there now. I think the Dad also works at the club. Reeks of JHF to me.

-May form part of a trade for D Curtin next year depending on where we finish

If he is coming, we can get that trade done anyway. Especially as an OOC player. I doubt he does.

-we may need to use our 2026 R1 to split for points to get our three NGAs/FS. Kenh looks like a late 1R, ROYAL EAGLE has huge wraps on McGlade to go even higher than that and Harper Banfield has been great as an under ager. In saying that I’d ideally rather take a player before a bid then carry a big points deficit into 2027, which is going to be a crucial free agency year for us with Warner (maybe) and Rivers.

That’s why I don’t care so much about bringing it forward. 2 maybe 3 first round pick quality coming in anyway. Can always get points. It might be a case that we get a F2 coming back too.

If we get the next few years right I can realistically see us being a threat in 2028 with a balanced list ready to enter their absolute prime with a fantastic age profile.

Agreed and if the draft intel is good and we can get another top 10 pick in 2025 that suits that list build in and that player gets an extra year development it would be worth it imo.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Well, I'm glad you asked. Thankfully I have already shot, edited and produced a video on Jobe's attributes, which you can find here:


To summarise Jobe's key attributes include the following:

• pack marking;
• contested work (both in the air and on the ground);
• set shot kicking from distance (40+ metres);
• football IQ and nous;
• elite leading patterns and 2nd efforts;
• endurance and up-field efforts; and
• foot skills.

His main weakness was simply consistency game to game.
One game he might kick 4 goals from 17 disposals and 7 marks and the next he might only have 7 disposals and have no effect on the game.
The other one was just his height, however, he only needs to grow a couple of cms to be a legitimately tall key position height.

But, hey, I only watched Jobe play live about 18 times last year, so what would I know?

 

[WCE777]

I think this is a chance. Mini will want to shape the list himself and we would have the spare cap space to do it if he wishes. I think we will be bringing in a couple of 22-26 mids in some form.

Dad already trying to get him tied to PA and his brother there now. I think the Dad also works at the club. Reeks of JHF to me.

If he is coming, we can get that trade done anyway. Especially as an OOC player. I doubt he does.

That’s why I don’t care so much about bringing it forward. 2 maybe 3 first round pick quality coming in anyway. Can always get points. It might be a case that we get a F2 coming back too.

Agreed and if the draft intel is good and we can get another top 10 pick in 2025 that suits that list build in and that player gets an extra year development it would be worth it imo.

Agree.
Depending on Warner in and Oscar out I really can't see more than 7 or maybe 8 out if Oscar leaves.
To facilitate 2 or 3 1st round picks and 3 NGA/FS draftees.

Only leaves room for 2 trades, priority mids like you mention and KDEF option if available.
The biggest issue is finding those 22-26yo mids that have some form that maybe gettable, if not Warner.

There seems to be lots of names thrown around but not many A or B grade options imo.
Ward is a B grade with upside is really the best of the OOC players and will be 22.

What do WC do if Warner stays for 2 years and Oscar stays?

Draft 2 elite mids with our 1st and Hawks 1st.

Short term play with longer term plan would be throw the Warner $ at Bont for 3 years with possible coaching role after.

Jamieson, Sheed, Chesser, Rawlinson, Livingstone delist, delist Barnett and pay out, trade Petch thats 7.
Cripps, Brockman, Kelly, Bazzo all on 1 year extensions.


Z Reid trade in with a late 2nd early 3rd round as our next KDEF option.
See how our list develops with all of that.

Next out would be Brockman and Bazzo depending on what we get in.
D Cameron in 2026, BW out.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Everyone one drools about Rowell this Rowell that and the closest comparison to Rowell this year is Sharp and people are turning there noses up. If Oscar goes and it’s 1/2 Freddy and Sharp would make me happier then when we come away with Harley Reid

 

[Choogler]

Geelong must be pretty happy they didn't follow this kind of drafting philosophy when it came to Joel Selwood.

You judge draft talent based on their exploits, not who their brother and sisters were.

There's not a single thing we know about Zane or Xavier that wasn't known about in their draft year.

I understand your comment about the Selwoods, but the only reason Geelong was even able to draft Selwood was because FS rules at the time meant they only had to use their 3rd round pick on Hawkins who was widely regarded as the No 1 pick in that draft. They went to the draft with only their rounds 1 - 3 picks. They wouldn't be able to do that these days. Geelong built their dynasty on the back of free hits with FS.

 

[Choogler]

So 3 NGA to draft.
Really only leaves a couple of scenarios to play out, Warner coming or staying, Oscar staying or going.

The draftable players maybe are Curtin if Oscar goes to replace him as a KP player who maybe suited too Ruck/Fwd.

If Warner stays for another 2 years we will be left with our 1st pick(2), FA compensation for Oscar pick 3, Hawks 1st(15) for Curtin and maybe something around our second round pick 20.

2, 3(OA), 15(Curtin), 20 and 3 NGA players probably taking up our picks 33 & 51 and something else like a future 3rd pick minimum.

Sort of leads to the question are we better to take a swing at Z Reid as a future KDEF option as a late 2nd early 3rd round pick through trade or where would you see his value if a possible candidate for our KDEF holes?

Leaving really if we trade in Z Reid we really are going after Curtin for Oscar and 2 top mids with whatever picks we have 2, 3, 15 whichever is the pick left after Curtin, definitely not using pick 2 or 3 on Curtin imo.

Doesn't leave much in the way of elite mids in the open draft, Sharp/Rodriguez/Cumming/Greeves is the top lot probably?

There is one other scenario that should be considered... That is Harley! If he's going it would completely change our strategy and would certainly increase our ability to get stuff done.

 

[BartBart]

I understand your comment about the Selwoods, but the only reason Geelong was even able to draft Selwood was because FS rules at the time meant they only had to use their 3rd round pick on Hawkins who was widely regarded as the No 1 pick in that draft. They went to the draft with only their rounds 1 - 3 picks. They wouldn't be able to do that these days. Geelong built their dynasty on the back of free hits with FS.

Combined with ways to keep/get players whilst officially staying under the salary cap.

 

[maverick001]

Can't be any worse than our current leaders - look at these captains

Duggan - Is he afl standard? B grader.
Oscar - doesn't even play and openly meets with opposition coaches over his future. Terrible for culture.

JUH hangs out with known criminals. We’ve been down that road and it didn’t end well.

 

[RookiePick]

Did anyone rate the athletic 198 cm Archer May as a prospect or MSD pick ..
I thought he was great for Subiaco v Beagles with very strong hands on a wet damp night and nice kicking action to slot some difficult goals..

No idea but I agree (on that one viewing) that he looked a step above WAFL grade.

 

[maverick001]

Eddie is such a flog
When the Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

coffee story broke, he said on FC he’d stand him down as captain
Now he’s sticking the boots into the WC board for not coming to his rescue

 

[Dale Doback]

Looking at Rodriguez and Sharp's highlights I think Fred has more upside. A better kick and gets possession on the move. More of an inside outside game. Sharp can win the ball around the contest with his size in the u18s but his skills look average.

 

[Choogler]

Just a hypothetical... assuming we finish last and have Pick 1, and Oscar goes as a Band 1 free agent giving us pick 2. On current standings wed have 1, 2, 12 (Hawks), 19, 30. Lets assume the impossible happened and The Bont decided to come to WC as a free agent, I'm assuming that most here would be happy to forego the Allen Comp pick for Bont who I think has another 4 seasons in him?
Here's the real hypothetical...
To avoid losing the comp pick 2, can we agree to trade for Bont instead of taking him as an UFA?
To make it worthwhile for the WB, all we'd have to do is trade him for a pick that is better than than what they'd get as a comp pick. If Hawks finish below WB it becomes easier, but if Hawks finish higher we would have to split pick 2 for 2 First rounders.
If we were to turn our Comp pick 2 into a couple of first rounders I'd chase Essendon's. Our Picks 2 and 12 are exactly the same points value as Essendon's 3 and 8. Essendon might like an earlier pick to use before their NGA players are bid on.
If we could wangle that deal, give WB Pick 8, they'd be happy, and we'd end up with 1,3,12 and Bont.
It's OK, you can tell me I'm dreamin'

 

[Choogler]

Combined with ways to keep/get players whilst officially staying under the salary cap.

Has the AFL's investigation finished? It seems a bit of a conflict of interest that Kelleher an ex-Geelong Chief Operating Officer should be involved in the investigation... it doesn't pass the pub test!

 

[stallon]

You threw up Yeo Kelly and Duggan as the senior players kids could potentially learn from, you mentioned hardly anyone would even know who they are outside of Perth.

Jesus dude

 

[Quinz]

Question is where does Bont play?

Good timing that Sheed will probably retire at the end of the year so he can slot straight into the Number 4. Think he'll learn a lot being next to Baker and Hunt in the locker room.

 

[Woutizmoo]

Question is where does Bont play?

Good timing that Sheed will probably retire at the end of the year so he can slot straight into the Number 4. Think he'll learn a lot being next to Baker and Hunt in the locker room.

We're looking for HB Flankers

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Just a hypothetical... assuming we finish last and have Pick 1, and Oscar goes as a Band 1 free agent giving us pick 2. On current standings wed have 1, 2, 12 (Hawks), 19, 30. Lets assume the impossible happened and The Bont decided to come to WC as a free agent, I'm assuming that most here would be happy to forego the Allen Comp pick for Bont who I think has another 4 seasons in him?
Here's the real hypothetical...
To avoid losing the comp pick 2, can we agree to trade for Bont instead of taking him as an UFA?
To make it worthwhile for the WB, all we'd have to do is trade him for a pick that is better than than what they'd get as a comp pick. If Hawks finish below WB it becomes easier, but if Hawks finish higher we would have to split pick 2 for 2 First rounders.
If we were to turn our Comp pick 2 into a couple of first rounders I'd chase Essendon's. Our Picks 2 and 12 are exactly the same points value as Essendon's 3 and 8. Essendon might like an earlier pick to use before their NGA players are bid on.
If we could wangle that deal, give WB Pick 8, they'd be happy, and we'd end up with 1,3,12 and Bont.
It's OK, you can tell me I'm dreamin'

You can trade a RFA not sure you can trade an UFA

 

[Convocation]

The Boys at Gettable mentioned Floyd Burmeister as a potential mid season pick up.
thoughts on if he is someone we could consider? Strikes me that he could be a Blicavs type?
Rookie me Central draft profile from last year - https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/floyd-burmeister/

 

[eaglevision]

The Boys at Gettable mentioned Floyd Burmeister as a potential mid season pick up.
thoughts on if he is someone we could consider? Strikes me that he could be a Blicavs type?
Rookie me Central draft profile from last year - https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/floyd-burmeister/

Have him as one of four rucks we should consider, but he’s more making his name as a KPF as an overager. If we intend to draft him as an Archer/JWilliams/Livingstone type then probably not for us as we have that position sorted. If we intended to develop him as a pure ruck then he should be considered.

 

[JackOutback]

Go away for a few days and not only are some posters assuming it's pick 1 and 2 this year, some are assuming it's pick 1 next year. When did we become like Freo fans?

 

[new breed]

Sheed interview during Essendon game said out for this year ....seems like playing on in 2026 or would like too .

When typing Sheed , came up as Speed haha .
Some good years for WC notably 2018 !!