List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Cuzz09]

Fair chance they win 1 of the next 6 and those dreams are crushed.

Yeah Ess have been very lucky in at least 3 of their wins this year. oppo stuffing up at right moment/ump intervention

 

[Tugga27]

Why would Oscar Allen sit out the year? The average football career is a little over 10 years, he's already lost one whole year, plus a half year, and people think he'll want to sit out another?

Jay Clark on The First Crack suggested that.

He's a moron.

 

[Elite Pete]

Why would Oscar Allen sit out the year? The average football career is a little over 10 years, he's already lost one whole year, plus a half year, and people think he'll want to sit out another?

Really really good money and on career long contract? If he goes down that will likely be withdrawn by all parties.

He won’t be the first or the last to do it. TB pretty much did it last year but later in the year. Bailey Smith ect

 

[bzparkes]

Why would Oscar Allen sit out the year?

 

[Tugga27]

Really really good money and on career long contract? If he goes down that will likely be withdrawn by all parties.

He won’t be the first or the last to do it. TB pretty much did it last year but later in the year. Bailey Smith ect

TB did it for about 5 games I think.
Bailey Smith fell out with the club and is just a tool.

I can't see our captain doing it TBH.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Really really good money and on career long contract? If he goes down that will likely be withdrawn by all parties.

He won’t be the first or the last to do it. TB pretty much did it last year but later in the year. Bailey Smith ect

He also might have some niggles and wants to get fit and firing for the Mighty Hawks.

It's a tough one, because if he's going, we get no benefit out of playing him. We actually lose by not being able to put development into Reid, Williams, Shanahan, etc

 

[TerryFilk]

I know I am in the minority here but Cole is still best 22 for another couple of years and no one is taking his spot permanently in that time, more than happy for a 2 or 3 year deal for him, he wouldn't be on big $.
Again on the Allen contract, Waterman signed a 5 year contract last year and would expect Allen would be entitled to the same.
If he doesn't want our 5 year deal than WC get pick 2 FA compo pick.
Archer Reid should be trained up as a KDP player and Allen and Waterman lead our fwd line for the foreseeable future, JW is at least another 2 full years away from being a viable alternative and Shanahan is 3-4 years away.

I think Greggo could very easily take Duggan’s spot, I also want to draft Lindsay who’d instantly displace Cole as well. Keeping Cole is one thing, but you absolutely don’t offer more than a 1 year deal, he’s
barely AFL standard.

I don’t care what Allen wants to be perfectly honest, might sound harsh but pick 2 for him is an absolute gift and if we don’t take that, it’d confirm to me we have no idea what we’re doing. Oscar’s knee isn’t lasting 5 years and even when he has played he hasn’t even been very good, he can’t even complete training sessions this season. Let him go, we’ve already got a log jam of key forwards and it wouldn’t shock me if we take Cody Curtin.

 

[Elite Pete]

TB did it for about 5 games I think.
Bailey Smith fell out with the club and is just a tool.

I can't see our captain doing it TBH.

He also might have some niggles and wants to get fit and firing for the Mighty Hawks.

It's a tough one, because if he's going, we get no benefit out of playing him. We actually lose by not being able to put development into Reid, Williams, Shanahan, etc

Yeah not likely this early but agreed. I can’t see him playing after the round 19 game against Richmond at home. Hopefully it not our only chance of a win by then.

 

[TerryFilk]

I've never understood why Cole triggers people so much. He's just a run of the mill small defender. Surely there are other players in the team to get fired up about.

Because he has been around the club for nearly a decade and has not improved at all for years, he’s a horrible ball user, in no man’s land defensively constantly as well. He has mastered the art of running around like a headless chook to appear busy though, I’ll give him that. He’s not a distributing small, he’s not a lockdown small, he doesn’t run and carry often either, he’s the definition of a nothing player, like what more do you want to see from him, lol?

 

[Elite Pete]

At the very least he could ask for something around the $700,000 mark for the next three seasons with a range of lucrative incentives included so both parties have some protections based on whether he becomes a top-50 AFL player or battles with injury again.

What do are we prepared to offer? 5 years at ?

 

[BSD]

3 year deal for Tom Cole and a 5 year deal for Oscar Allen, Jesus Christ lmao

Tom Cole and Duggan are liabilities , delist them. 3year deal for Oscar, take it or leave it.

 

[TerryFilk]

At the very least he could ask for something around the $700,000 mark for the next three seasons with a range of lucrative incentives included so both parties have some protections based on whether he becomes a top-50 AFL player or battles with injury again.

What do are we prepared to offer? 5 years at ?

Article also says this

“There isn’t even a question of whether he might jump ship given his loyalty to the club that has worked so hard to get his body right since he was taken as the 10th pick in the 2020 national draft”

He seemingly wants to stay, only possible way we could get him is in a Harley deal and if Essendon sort of forced him out imo, which will not happen.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

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Stared at this for a minute confused as to why you would have marshmallows in a bowl like that until I realised it was cotton wool

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

At the very least he could ask for something around the $700,000 mark for the next three seasons with a range of lucrative incentives included so both parties have some protections based on whether he becomes a top-50 AFL player or battles with injury again.

What do are we prepared to offer? 5 years at ?

Get involved and throw some money at him at the very least. If we think there is zero chance he is leaving then even better because we will never have to back it up and actually pay him the money. Just drive the price up on Essendon. They have been doing the same to us with Harley Reid.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

At the very least he could ask for something around the $700,000 mark for the next three seasons with a range of lucrative incentives included so both parties have some protections based on whether he becomes a top-50 AFL player or battles with injury again.

What do are we prepared to offer? 5 years at ?

A spine made up of Zac Reid, Cody Curtin, Archer Reid, Shanahan, Jack Williams (Archer or Cody could play either back or forward) and an imported Ruck would be something to build upon

 

[Elite Pete]

A spine made up of Zac Reid, Cody Curtin, Archer Reid, Shanahan, Jack Williams (Archer or Cody could play either back or forward) and an imported Ruck would be something to build upon

Be interesting to see if we are on the Leek Aleer discussions. Would probably have to go to $1m a year if the Saints are offering $900k which seems crazy.


Wade Derksen who wanted to get to the Dees last year apparently playimg very well in the VFL too. A lot do intercept marks. Played a bit a Peel too so no stranger to WA.

 

[WCE777]

Getting Zach Reid and Moyle at the end of this year would be a phenomenal result for the club. We’ve got the rest of the year to see if Reid’s body holds up but if it does that’s two ten year players in the perfect age bracket in two of our three most pressing positional needs. Happy to pay overs in contract terms for both.

Starcevich’s concussion issues coupled with what should be Oscar’s departure should put a line through him, the big FA year is going to be 2027 and will be crucial. In the next couple of years I’d hope we’re pursuing the following:

2025: Zach Reid, Ned Moyle, Alex Davies

2026: Dan Curtin, Darcy Cameron, Connor O’Sullivan, Jedd Busslinger, Darcy Jones

2027: Warner x2, Rivers

totally agree

 

[flyinghi64]

Because he has been around the club for nearly a decade and has not improved at all for years, he’s a horrible ball user, in no man’s land defensively constantly as well. He has mastered the art of running around like a headless chook to appear busy though, I’ll give him that. He’s not a distributing small, he’s not a lockdown small, he doesn’t run and carry often either, he’s the definition of a nothing player, like what more do you want to see from him, lol?

Not trying to nit pick or anything but looking at something else I noticed he was the only Eagles player on the weekend to go at 100% DE. Might pick the wrong option here and there but if he is going at 100% he is probably not a horrible ball user.

 

[eaglevision]

If he's OOC, can't he just walk? In a normal trade, Barry Williams and F3 would get laughed at.

He can walk but the club would offer something to the Bombers to compensate them but we don’t need to pay overs for him. I’ve been big on Zach since before the start of the season but let’s also remember he’s previously played nine games in four injury riddled seasons. Happy for Essington to laugh all the way to the PSD if that’s the case.

 

[WCE777]

This is about the 10th time I've seen you mentioning Ward. What makes you think he is gettable? He's a top 10 pick who is establishing himself in finals bound team. I don't see any reason why he would come to the Eagles. If he did want to leave the hawks for some reason, they'd be 9 other Vic based clubs in the hunt for him. We'd probably have to give up a top 10 pick for him.
Flanders is 23 and contracted to end of 27. No way GC sell him for points. He would require a top 5 - 10 pick also.

Both great players but neither would be cheap. Not sure why you think they would be.

Because they are players of need and quality.
You go after players you want not just what other clubs don't.
Ward is OOC and if the Hawks were thinking he is best 22 in front of Worpel he would have already signed a new contract with them, they also have Hustwaite pushing for a spot and he would be gettable at a price. Our 2nd round pick and maybe something on top and 5 years.
Flanders is contracted totally, but GC have their 3 top mids set in Rowell/Anderson/Miller and heaps of mids waiting in the wings plus another 2 or 3 first round academy players this year. They are playing Flanders out of position because of this and I think he is an A grade mid in our side.
Yes I believe we will have to give up a 1st round pick for him, but it will be a late 1st and a 5+ year contract. Bundle up our 2nd pick and Hawks 2nd and that would be a decent deal for Flanders.
They also need to sell their 3 1st round picks for points, do a deal on our F1st for their best pick so we can land another top 10 pick.
I am of the opinion that we are better to buy a player of these types with draft capital and salary than just keep drafting 18 year olds and hoping they all turn out.
We definitely need 1 of them along with drafting top talent.

 

[twce13]

looks like Kuol Mun was monstered against the most AFL ready ruck in the VFL.
Given he is almost 23 years old, I'm cooling interest on him.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

I've never understood why Cole triggers people so much. He's just a run of the mill small defender. Surely there are other players in the team to get fired up about.

Tom Cole is the best bloke AND the best lookin bloke in the whole side, maybe even the whole state.

That’s why

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

We delisted a few whipping boys last year and clearly Cole has been anointed as one of the replacements.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Not trying to nit pick or anything but looking at something else I noticed he was the only Eagles player on the weekend to go at 100% DE. Might pick the wrong option here and there but if he is going at 100% he is probably not a horrible ball user.

That’s because most of his possessions were ineffective horizontal dinks around the back half that didn’t actually acheive anything other than adding a stat to his player sheet.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I know I am in the minority here but Cole is still best 22 for another couple of years and no one is taking his spot permanently in that time, more than happy for a 2 or 3 year deal for him, he wouldn't be on big $.
Again on the Allen contract, Waterman signed a 5 year contract last year and would expect Allen would be entitled to the same.
If he doesn't want our 5 year deal than WC get pick 2 FA compo pick.
Archer Reid should be trained up as a KDP player and Allen and Waterman lead our fwd line for the foreseeable future, JW is at least another 2 full years away from being a viable alternative and Shanahan is 3-4 years away.

Cole has been dropped to sub or to the WAFL twice in the last 3 weeks.

I think your assessment on our list management is obscene.

We have 3 objectives this year as far as list management goes: Create draft capital, contract promising young layers, continue turning the list over and exiting older crew.

Your approach achieves none of those things.

Oscar leaving is a non-negotiable on two fronts. We need the picks and we have depth in that postion. Him staying create a bottle neck and (worst case scenario) risks us losing one of Reid/Shanahan.

We need to give both a clear pathway to AFL, preferably in the forward line.

Our list is also incredibly unbalanced. We need to offload some of our talls to redeploy the capital on quality mids.

Oscar leaving is the cleanest way to achieve this, and would give us the best result.

Oscar leaving achieves all those things. Oscar staying exacerbates the problem.

Bazzo should not be delisted. He’s putting together a solid body of work in the WAFL and has shown that he is still AFL quality.

Kelly I don’t mind recontracting on a less lucrative deal with the understanding that he won’t be playing premium midfield minutes.

He was wasteful in front of goals yesterday but 9 score involvements from 16 disposals is an impactful score line for a half forward.