List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[darksquare]

What would be an acceptable trade for Chesser?

You can have him for free if we can send Matt Owies back with him.

 

[Cherki]

Yes mate, it was all part of the master plan for the Tigers.

Bravo Richmond, they played the Eagles with their phony attempts to keep Baker and Graham and bossed trade period by discarding 25 year old Shai Bolton and reigning club champion Dan Rioli, despite them being signed to long term contracts.

Master-strokes all round. Lots of stroking.

Weird.

 

[CountryLad]

Chessers trade value depends on the situation.

Adding 3rd rounders doesn't really do anything for us this year anyway so 100% it's just better off keeping him in that case.

If bundling him with some other pick swap unlocks us being able to trade the Hawks pick back down the draft order so we can take Lindsay/Cumming/Schubert, then I'm all for it.

Just an example.

That’s fair enough if the deal is decent.

I would like to think that there are 4-5 players on the main list we could easily move on before Chesser.

Jamo, Hunt, Petch, Cole and Barnet (one year contract remaining) pay him out.

Allen looks gone so there’s 6 players and I’d argue that Cripps and Owies should be cut before Chesser, though that’s unlikely to happen seeing both are now contracted.

 

[Hasselhough]

Don't know if this one was already posted.

I'm glad we shouldn't be bringing in cooked WA origin players who want a final pay day at our expense. Let him help Carltons next rebuild

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I have not been a fan of Chesser. But given what he has been showing i would rather keep him and see what happens as opposed to trade him out for a 3rd rounder or thereabouts. 3rd rounder is not a high likelihood of working out to start with plus you have to put multiple years worth of development into them to get a return even if you did pick the right player and are going to get a return.

It would be good if Brockman and Dewar could show a similar leap forward as Chesser has. They do some clever things and have some skills. But drift out of games to the point of becoming passengers just like Chesser did up until lately. Might have to light a fire under their asses and tell them they are playing for their careers next year like we obviously did with Chesser this year.

 

[mattyc75]

Grundy has a significantly better ruckman then CDT was at under 18s level was cleaning up the hit outs and his althesicm meant his follow up work was elite. Grundy sliding was a product of high level prospects like Hampson, Kruezer, Leunburger, Gorringe ect not living up to the high picks invested in them given the premier rucks at the time where Cox, Sandilands and Goldstein all where picked up pretty late.

I think Grundy probably came off as a bit of a weirdo in interviews too

 

[Elite Pete]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

 

[RanaNaved]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

Well they're going to massively overpay TDK and probably Leek Aleer too

 

[HoneyBadger35]

They're pretty lousy counter offers.

I daresay we caught wind of the compensation for Jack Graham and decided we'd prefer to keep him rather than get "compensated" a pick in the 40s for a two time premiership player who is firmly entrenched into our best 22. Having said that, it doesn't sound like we fought tooth and nail to retain him as a player. More that we offered marginally more to see what eventuated then rolled over.

Baker, also out of contract, was at risk of going for an unsatisfactory amount at the trade table, so maybe we felt it was in our best interest to retain him rather than lose him for peanuts. Thankfully, you guys came to the party.

The Bolton talk feels like posturing more than anything else. Playing "hardball" is pretty common when trying to extract maximum value at the trade table. If we wanted him, we would've kept him. Contracted until 2028.

Nothing was said about Rioli and we'd be pretty foolish to not let him go given what Gold Coast were offering. Again, if we wanted him, we would've kept him. Contracted until 2027.

Blair's comments in 2023 about the strength of the 2024 draft also tells me he wouldn't oppose cashing in on the want-away players and capitalising on a draft that he clearly rated. I could be wrong though.

“Any proof we tried to keep these players?”
“Here’s you improving your contract offer to some of them, as late as September, to meet what was on offer at rival clubs.”
“Pfft, pretty lousy evidence.”

Thanks for the input mate.

 

[WCE777]

Looking at ruckman options, L Meek was averaging 28 hit outs when he was at FRE/PT and Reidy is averaging 37 hit outs for PT, is there much difference in the quality?
I don't watch a lot of WAFL to get a decent read on him but at 25 surely he is better than Flynn, thoughts?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Of course we can. A competitive ruck would be nice now but we don't need one until 2028-2029.

As good as it would have been to have got Cameron, we're now faced with the dilemma of spending draft capital on the likes of Reeves, Teakle, Reidy, etc., draft CDT, or be patient with Williams/Flynn and bring in that player when we're moving up.

I think we're better off building around the ruck position for now. It does make CDT a more attractive option but most premiership sides of late have had average rucks, which we should be able to find at the bottom end of the draft.

Totally disagree.

We need one now. We are getting smashed at the stoppages and clearances BC our rucks can't give first use of the ball. We can't wait till 28/29 FFS.

 

[Monocle]

Looking at ruckman options, L Meek was averaging 28 hit outs when he was at FRE/PT and Reidy is averaging 37 hit outs for PT, is there much difference in the quality?
I don't watch a lot of WAFL to get a decent read on him but at 25 surely he is better than Flynn, thoughts?

Meek was pretty good around the ground for Peel and regularly hit the score board.

That said Reidy at the right price could be handy.

The rate we are going about Re-signing current player - list spots will be scarce.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

Rucci’s not exactly the most accurate footy journo going around, is he?

 

[Hasselhough]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

Happy to take Jack Steele for couple of years . Would be perfect role model for Harley and Sharpe

 

[Barrybran]

Totally disagree.

We need one now. We are getting smashed at the stoppages and clearances BC our rucks can't give first use of the ball. We can't wait till 28/29 FFS.

Of course we can wait. We would like a better ruck now but the reality is that we would be replacing two fringe AFL rucks with a fringe AFL ruck.

With Cameron off the table, it's time to stop throwing the toys out of the cot and look at ways we can improve the situation in the future.

 

[WCE777]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

wow, that's a bit of a clean out, R Marshall, Steele and Windhager would be of interest to WC?

 

[ziad]

Of course we can wait. We would like a better ruck now but the reality is that we would be replacing two fringe AFL rucks with a fringe AFL ruck.

With Cameron off the table, it's time to stop throwing the toys out of the cot and look at ways we can improve the situation in the future.

I dont think Cameron was ever coming but he filled empty hours for many on here

 

[Wooshaaaa]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

Marshal and Windhager would be ideal.

Marshal offer him the Cameron deal. 900x4

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

Damn, not sure if Wilkie would be right for us but he's gonna be an insane get for someone, that's for sure. Two years still on the contract, wonder what their asking price is. Marshall good too.

 

[WCE777]

Meek was pretty good around the ground for Peel and regularly but the score board.

That said Reidy at the right price could be handy.

The rate we are going about Re-signing current player - list spots will be scarce.

cheers, that's the way I see it.
R Marshall might be looking for a new home too?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Pick 1 and 14 for Wilkie, Marshall, Windhager and Steele

Let’s goooo

 

[eaglevision]

I don’t think there’s any point to trading for a middling ruck. Cameron level ruck made sense but if we’re going for a mediocre one we’ve got that covered in spades.

If Draper goes to the Lions Oscar McInerny may be of interest depending on how they intend on playing him.

 

[MrWoollie]

It really really isn’t.

Maybe you didn’t want Cameron, but when a good day still equates to losing the hit out counts to a 3-1 ratio and losing clearances 4-1, it means a solution needs to happen.

Rucks are the most finite resource in footy. Cameron was a good’n.
Okay yeah his age profile wasn’t perfect, but he would’ve made the single biggest difference without paying top top dollar for a blue chip mid (in either $$ or trade capital).

I would argue that ruck isn't actually the biggest problem or the solution.

When we had the best tap ruckman in the competition we often lost the clearance count (admittedly not 4-1). The opposition basically conceded the tap but targeted both NN's position and sweated on our best inside mids. They'd often steal the tap and get the clearance. Where we would win out was owning the area between centre and CHB where we would grab the hack clearance kick and rebound.

The biggest problem we have is that we don't have the mids to steal the opposition taps or to tackle their inside beasts.
That's what we need.
Mids, mids and more (better) mids.

 

[Boohemian]

I don’t think there’s any point to trading for a middling ruck. Cameron level ruck made sense but if we’re going for a mediocre one we’ve got that covered in spades.

If Draper goes to the Lions Oscar McInerny may be of interest depending on how they intend on playing him.

Lions are going after Draper because the thoughts are McInerny is cooked, right?

McInerny is a pretty important part of that club, must be some strong doubts on him going forward.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Yeah he’s older than Cameron and struggling to get on the park this year. Let’s not.