List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[eaglevision]

Lions are going after Draper because the thoughts are McInerny is cooked, right?

McInerny is a pretty important part of that club, must be some strong doubts on him going forward.

26HO, 23 disposals, 13 clearances in the VFL two days ago reads pretty well…

We could probably give them pick 30 and 46 for points and land the big O and Neale. Add Dev for some spice.

 

[Tugga27]

Marshal and Windhager would be ideal.

Marshal offer him the Cameron deal. 900x4

Marshall heavily linked to Collingwood and Geelong.

No chance he's coming West.

 

[Altum Volantes]

If this plays out the Saints will take a long time to recover. He has NWM out as well

Yeeeeah he says a lot of things though.

Most of it is on the nose these days.

Much like his Ninja Turtle namesake, Rucci peaked in the 1990s.

 

[darksquare]

Pick 1 and 14 for Wilkie, Marshall, Windhager and Steele

Let’s goooo

Add NWM, and I'm fine with that

 

[RanaNaved]

I can't imagine this Rucci fella being that in the know these days, the man's ancient

 

[Hasselhough]

Add NWM, and I'm fine with that

We will get him in the PSD

 

[Mop]

I would argue that ruck isn't actually the biggest problem or the solution.

When we had the best tap ruckman in the competition we often lost the clearance count (admittedly not 4-1). The opposition basically conceded the tap but targeted both NN's position and sweated on our best inside mids. They'd often steal the tap and get the clearance. Where we would win out was owning the area between centre and CHB where we would grab the hack clearance kick and rebound.

The biggest problem we have is that we don't have the mids to steal the opposition taps or to tackle their inside beasts.
That's what we need.
Mids, mids and more (better) mids.

This is a really good point and I’ve glad you raised it.
You’re spot on. That did happen, at times NN’s brilliance was mitigated.

However right now our issue is the opposite, right? It’s the worst of both worlds.

However our midfield is developing, we’ve got some good young cattle. What we don’t have is even a C grade ruck. They’re having to work so damn hard to get table scraps.

I think a ruck upgrade moves the needle more than what’s available on the experienced midfield market barring any sudden market shifts.

 

[mattyc75]

Im sorry but the players who have played so far look bang average for Richmond. Shanahan is leaps and bounds above any of the KPPs they took so far. Trainor looks a bit mid sized. Smillie looks a big worry fitness wise as does Lalor to the point im concerned about his long term future in the game. 4 hamstring injuries in 10 months is insane

I think they fluffed it a bit. What was the point in racking up pick 10 and 12 for Shai Bolton only for pick 30 to be a better player then what you chose? It feels to me they just dumped Shai Bolton for a bunch of middling picks as opposed to top ones

Yeah at the time I thought Richmond took some risks. It might turn out fine, but its a fine line with injury with Lalor,trainor and the other guy. Smillie had slid a bit so his pick was a bit iffy too

 

[Mop]

Yeeeeah he says a lot of things though.

Most of it is on the nose these days.

Much like his Ninja Turtle namesake, Rucci peaked in the 1990s.

Cowabunga

I do recall laying into him about Judd, he was one of the first to call pretty strongly he was out.

Sadly he was right

 

[mattyc75]

Rucci’s not exactly the most accurate footy journo going around, is he?

There's an accurate footy 'journo'?

 

[Elite Pete]

I can't imagine this Rucci fella being that in the know these days, the man's ancient

He does have a role at the Power I think. So the NWM he might have some insight.

Ralphy rolling with Cats coming hard for Marshall. Clubs are telling Wilke to name his own price and saints will discuss if Steele is tradable

Rucci co host also saying Crows have put a big offer in for Ah Chee.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

There's an accurate footy 'journo'?

How dare you slight the great man Rhino like that.

 

[RanaNaved]

There's an accurate footy 'journo'?

Yes, Tim Gossage and Peter Sumich

 

[Hasselhough]

I just don't see how saints with all their salary cap improve by letting contracted players leave .

The whole point of paying overs in free agency is to add a quality player free from draft capital.

bringing in De Koning doesn't work if they lose marshall , windhager or Wilkie.

It just shuffling the deck chairs

Steelei can understand as I want him

 

[Elite Pete]

I just don't see how saints with all their salary cap improve by letting contracted players leave .

The whole point of paying overs in free agency is to add a quality player free from draft capital.

bringing in De Koning doesn't work if they lose marshall , windhager or Wilkie.

It just shuffling the deck chairs

Steelei can understand as I want him

Some have the theory of they are pretty much pick purchasing. Sign a younger free agent ruck and then trade the older ruck for a first round pick.

The others I agree, SOS might be creating a few issues at the saints

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

They didn’t though.

A bunch of senior players all asked to leave at the same time, and they fought incredibly hard to keep all of them.

They extracted maximum value, no disagreement there, but this concept that Richmond saw the cliff and moved their stars on is simply untrue. They tried to retain every player they lost last offseason.

Did well to pivot into getting value mode, that’s for sure.

Careful Badge. I tried arguing the exactly same thing a while ago and got shot down by people thinking the tigers were geniouses

 

[plays tall 1]

Reidy’s out of contract at the end of the year isn’t he? Surely he looks for opportunity elsewhere. He’s already in Perth. He’s dominant at WAFL level. He’s seen what Meek has achieved coming through a same pathway.

He doesn’t appear to be a UFA so presumably we’d have to trade for him or get him via PSD. Looks a perfect opportunity to offer a late draft pick with a veiled PSD threat. We could (should?) be de-listing all of Jamieson, Barnett and Livingstone, so we’ll need to be bringing a ruck or 2 in.

 

[Smotie2]

Personally I find the first away game of the 2020 hub impacted season being the turning point. That's where I REALLY thought we were going to be in for some pain and had a cliff coming.

It was the game Red Bull Rowell and his Fold Coast buddy's absolutely destroyed and bullied our hero's, which included Tim Kelly, Shuey, Yeo, Gaff, JK, Naitanui, McGovern etc etc.

Made our senior players look second rate and the real "rot" set in soon after in the hubs.

That was when the Jetta disconnect started and somehow looked like Simpson hated/scapegoat him, and then things just got worse and worse as the seasons went on.


That 2020 season ended with us losing a home elimination final against an undermanned Magpies team in front of a sold out Optus crowd. Kelly had 12 disposals

Spot on. Have it on good authority the players spat the dummy having to hub away for 7 weeks and the attitude was really bad.

Wasn't about talent and everything about attitude which maligned the team for the last 4 and a half years as we know.

 

[Hasselhough]

Some have the theory of they are pretty much pick purchasing. Sign a younger free agent ruck and then trade the older ruck for a first round pick.

The others I agree, SOS might be creating a few issues at the saints

They have to do something with their salary cap

If big clubs are going to raid the smaller clubs you have to do something to square the ledger .

 

[Elite Pete]

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Who says no, campaigners?


Reuben Ginbey, Harry Edwards, Liam Duggan

14

Liam Duggan

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

283.7

4star

D

16.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

283.7

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

Brady Hough, Callum Wilkie, Elliot Yeo

6

Elliot Yeo

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.4

4star

Tom McCarthy, Jack Steele, Campbell Chesser
Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

27

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

, Jobe Shanahan, Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

, Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

, Tyler Brockman

Rowan Marshall, Harley Reid, Elijah Hewett

Archer Reid, Ryan Maric, Bo Allan, Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

Tyrell Dewar

 

[ZergMinion]

Who says no, campaigners?


Reuben Ginbey, Harry Edwards, Liam Duggan
Brady Hough, Callum Wilkie, Elliot Yeo
Tom McCarthy, Jack Steele, Campbell Chesser
Liam Baker, Jobe Shanahan, Tim Kelly
Liam Ryan, Jake Waterman, Tyler Brockman

Rowan Marshall, Harley Reid, Elijah Hewett

Archer Reid, Ryan Maric, Bo Allan, Jack Graham

Tyrell Dewar

Callum, Jack and Rowan most likely.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Callum, Jack and Rowan most likely.

True enough.

I think all 3 have plenty to offer us and I'd be disappointed if we didn't throw our hat in the ring for them if available.

 

[bzparkes]

Who says no, campaigners?


Reuben Ginbey, Harry Edwards, Liam Duggan
Brady Hough, Callum Wilkie, Elliot Yeo
Tom McCarthy, Jack Steele, Campbell Chesser
Liam Baker, Jobe Shanahan, Tim Kelly
Liam Ryan, Jake Waterman, Tyler Brockman

Rowan Marshall, Harley Reid, Elijah Hewett

Archer Reid, Ryan Maric, Bo Allan, Jack Graham

Tyrell Dewar

Reckon we could fit Nas in there somewhere also.

 

[CountryLad]

True enough.

I think all 3 have plenty to offer us and I'd be disappointed if we didn't throw our hat in the ring for them if available.

If you are leaving the Saints as a player in your late twenties you’d be going to a club that’s in the window and that’s not us.