List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

[Keys]

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[mattyc75]

This board needs to stop obsessing with Sharp, we're not going to draft him.

Every year the player everyone obsesses with doesn't get drafted by us.

2024 it was Draper, we traded pick 3 away and took Bo Allan.
2023 we thought we'd split pick 1 for a bounty of top 10 picks, but instead took that spud Harley.
2021 it was Johnson, we drafted Chesser.
2016 it was Taranto, posters naively thought we were the only ones who saw how awesome he was projecting and he'd last to our pick in the teens.

As far back as 2001 this board obsessed with Polak and raged when we instead took Chris Judd at #3 (there's a fun thread floating around

That's not every year...

 

[Seadog]

Sounds like we're aiming for 3 top 10 picks and the rest used on trades/NGA, so what does it matter what we give up if we get what we want anyway?

Loser talk, it's more important that we win the trade period than get what we want.

 

[WCErevival]

Where will an extra top 10 pick come from? I dont see how we can get GCs first round pick as they will likely use it for Petracca.

 

[shooshka]

I wouldn't say power, just some leverage. They have the better hand. Both parties know it.

Brisbane have the better hand? Not sure on that.

Allen is a restricted free agent. We have every right to match (not sure he would stay with 1 foot out the door, but he wouldn’t want to go to the ND either). We have ample $

Starcevich is also restricted. Brisbane tight for $. Have also already brought in Draper so any compo would be R2 onwards (less when getting Oscar).

FA period closes before trade period. They will need to blink first.

Dev, psd easy if we must

#2 - yeah let’s not pretend we don’t want it - but it’s not like we don’t have (and aren’t looking at more) high end picks already. If it is 19 we match, Brisbane probably trade, we get less and they lose Annable.

There isn’t a scenario where Brisbane aren’t net losers by playing funny buggers. We’d lose also, but not as much as they would.

 

[TerryFilk]

Where will an extra top 10 pick come from? I dont see how we can get GCs first round pick as they will likely use it for Petracca.

They’ll be getting St Kilda’s first for Flanders as well, that’s likely going to be central to the Petracca deal.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

How is it pick 12? Please don’t say points value, please don’t say points value.

And even if it somehow is “basically Pick 12”, you’re saying pick 12 in a compromised draft is no good so we couldn’t dare lose 22 and 37 in the same draft?

Trade period should be a day long and it should be the day the season finishes to avoid the level of hand wringing some of you seek out.

Take Pick 2 for Oscar Allen I reckon.

Well of course to the above

I think pick 2 is just overvalued in this draft. The player people would like at pick 2 in Sharp is a good chance at being around at pick 6. The path is getting 3 top 10 picks basically and going from there... which we can do if we have pick 22 still around.

We can easily turn pick 16,22,23 + Ryan and Chesser into pick 6 and 9 and hit the draft with pick 1,6,9,37 which along with Banfield and ability to get Williams/Walley/Evans. At the same time we would keep Allen who would result in us skipping CDT. If we are going to give up a tall forward to take a tall forward then surely we can keep Allen and keep going ?

 

[shooshka]

Where will an extra top 10 pick come from? I dont see how we can get GCs first round pick as they will likely use it for Petracca.

GC hold pick 7, likely get 8 for Flanders (push them both back x1 for OA compo I think).

Petracca isn’t worth both. And they will 100% split for points.

 

[Hasselhough]

I missed that you had Robertson in there, I thought Brisbane were getting 22 and 37 for Starcevich. But now we’re giving up pick 37 for Robertson? He’s either steak knives in the deal or we’re putting him through the SSP process.

Brisbane have not offered Robertson a contract they can hardly expect to get anything in a trade

 

[juice568]

I think I'm going crazy but I swear alot of the same posters who have been banging on for 12 months about the pick 3 trade last year (in a universivally regarded even draft) are now almost begging the club to split pick 2 this year

People want the club to draft a top mid. we needed one last year and need one even more this year

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

 

[Barrybran]

Where will an extra top 10 pick come from? I dont see how we can get GCs first round pick as they will likely use it for Petracca.

They’ll be getting St Kilda’s first for Flanders as well, that’s likely going to be central to the Petracca deal.

GC hold pick 7, likely get 8 for Flanders (push them both back x1 for OA compo I think).

Petracca isn’t worth both. And they will 100% split for points.

I think there's half a chance that Melbourne will ask for the Port pick from Gold Coast and we'll likely be trading for the Saints' pick

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I think I'm going crazy but I swear alot of the same posters who have been banging on for 12 months about the pick 3 trade last year (in a universivally regarded even draft) are now almost begging the club to split pick 2 this year

Different drafts require different strategies

They are not the same every single year.

Last year we had a clear top 4. We dont have that this year.

 

[Hasselhough]

In a perfect world we give up pick 37 for starcivich 55 for young

Get pick 2 for allen then swap

2 + 17 for 5 + 6

Out allen + barrass
In 5 sharp 6 cumming starcivich young

 

[DorothyG]

 

[Keys]

For the sake of argument let’s say Brisbane are being dicks. I don’t think they are, but anyway say they’re pushing us with threat of coming up short on a contract that’ll get us Band 1

If it’s Band 2, we match the bid for Oscar forcing them into a trade situation. Also, because we no longer have FA compensation to protect we can lodge FA paperwork for Starcevich and Brisbane having already brought Draper in get nothing for Starcevich (yes they could match but if they were able they’d already have done so)

So they either trade for Allen (using picks they need to match a bid on Annable) or miss out on getting him to the club when they could’ve got him for free. They also miss out on getting the end of R1 priority pick their former CEO so kindly orchestrated for them to get for Starcevich

Oh and we still have pick 1 in this scenario and can bid on Annable forcing them to pay full price

No Allen, nothing for Starcevich and maximum points to match for Annable

Or they could proceed with what’s been arranged - lodge a Band 1 level contract for Allen getting him for free whilst also getting pick 23 (653 points) for Starcevich and in all likelihood a gentleman’s agreement for WCE not to bid on Annable.

West Coast get pick 2 for Allen plus Starcevich without using any of our pre-assistance draft picks

Tell me again why either club wants to **** about with this

 

[timeforanother22]

Liam had a really good 2025. It would have looked a lot better if the ball spent more time at his end of the ground and we delivered the ball forward properly.

He would have had a really good 2025 if is set shot kicking wasn’t absolute bollocks. And we probably would have won more than one game as well.

 

[Wce17]

Well of course to the above

I think pick 2 is just overvalued in this draft. The player people would like at pick 2 in Sharp is a good chance at being around at pick 6. The path is getting 3 top 10 picks basically and going from there... which we can do if we have pick 22 still around.

We can easily turn pick 16,22,23 + Ryan and Chesser into pick 6 and 9 and hit the draft with pick 1,6,9,37 which along with Banfield and ability to get Williams/Walley/Evans. At the same time we would keep Allen who would result in us skipping CDT. If we are going to give up a tall forward to take a tall forward then surely we can keep Allen and keep going ?

Or can take pick 2 which is highly valued & teams will chase & downgrade for an extra pick say with Essendon for 5 + 23. Instead of packaging up picks you move down the order and actually generate a pick that would pay for Starc & you are still in the range where you said Sharp would be a good chance of still being. Why trade up when you can trade down from 2?

It costs to trade up, you get paid to move down.

Better yet you could offer Essendon 2 & 16 for 5 & 6. Theres the 3 picks inside the top 10.

You keep arguing though thats it's better to get pick 19 for Allen.

Just on Allen Lions are taking a big gamble because of the position they are in. At best he's 50/50 to actually ever get over his injuries & become the player we all thought he would be. He will likely retire early if he stayed & he won't be around for the next flag push. If he stays and goes down everyone would be like thats bad list management once again.

 

[Shmiddy15]

I don’t think there’s any world where the bombers part with 5&6 for 2 regardless of what we tack on the end of it. We’ve seen what splits of pick 2 & 3 have netted us in the past and it’s been nowhere close to 5&6. People hoping for that are going to be disappointed imo.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Different drafts require different strategies

They are not the same every single year.

Last year we had a clear top 4. We dont have that this year.

Huh?

Last year was pretty much universally regarded as an even top 15 or so. Which is why splitting was so hard to do

The best performed player so far was taken at 17

 

[Keys]

And for the record, I don’t like that we look set to hand over our end of R1 priority pick when the Hawthorn R2 pick (probably 38) should be sufficient.

But it’s a free pick quite possibly/probably given on the understanding it would be handed over for Starcevich - it’s the AFL’s solution to us requesting an exemption from FA compensation being diluted

If we’re lucky we might be able to get back one of the late R3 picks Brisbane hold (they have 4) which have zero points value which could come in used with other deals or matching a bid on Banfield

 

[BSD]

I smell a salary dump from the Saints with Steel. A straight swap might get this done.

That would be a fair swap for us, but is Steel interested in moving to W.A. ?

 

[Biggie]

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Well of course to the above

I think pick 2 is just overvalued in this draft. The player people would like at pick 2 in Sharp is a good chance at being around at pick 6. The path is getting 3 top 10 picks basically and going from there... which we can do if we have pick 22 still around.

We can easily turn pick 16,22,23 + Ryan and Chesser into pick 6 and 9 and hit the draft with pick 1,6,9,37 which along with Banfield and ability to get Williams/Walley/Evans. At the same time we would keep Allen who would result in us skipping CDT. If we are going to give up a tall forward to take a tall forward then surely we can keep Allen and keep going ?

This is BigFooty logic. We couldn’t ‘easily’ do that, it’s a lot of moving parts that have to go just right, even if each moving part seems reasonable it takes very little to blow the whole strategy up.

The other element with Allen is it’s a perfectly reasonable time for him to move on. We need playing time into Jobe, we need minutes into Archer even if he ends up as a forward or not long term. Allen’s body lets him down in a way Brisbane can afford to navigate and we cannot.

1, 2, pursuing 7 from the Suns, Starcevich, Dev, Young, plus whatever else comes our way for Ryan and Chess…just take that and crack on. Anything else is overthinking.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

He’s a media bloke but I don’t think this is any sourced reporting but instead just doing the numbers and looking at what other clubs could offer points wise.

 

[beagles]

Any combine results or sites reporting on combine results yet