List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

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Keys

Looking for a cloud to yell at
Oct 11, 2006
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navi_

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What’s an example of a club that’s done that and found it beneficial?
It hasnt led to the ultimate success yet but I think Port Adelaide did it pretty well trading out guys like Polec and Wingard (both home grown boys and considered A grade talent at the time ) to help set up their 2018 draft hand
 

squashface

Masten and Waterman
Feb 26, 2012
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It hasnt led to the ultimate success yet but I think Port Adelaide did it pretty well trading out guys like Polec and Wingard (both home grown boys and considered A grade talent at the time ) to help set up their 2018 draft hand
Did they shop them around though or did Polec and Wingard get saucy contracts elsewhere and want to leave?
 

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Tugga27

Norm Smith Medallist
Jun 19, 2017
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Obviously none of us are privy to that.

Just trying to illustrate if you can find a situation where it benefits both parties then it can be good!
Polec was uncontracted and got a silly offer from Port he couldn't refuse.

Totally different than trading a player under contract.
 

navi_

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For example

Gov: Gee Nizzy/Vozzo my body is cooked and I don't have the drive to prepare as elite as I should be to perform at the level you guys thought I could when you signed me for big bucks

Nizzy/Vozzo: That's too bad gov sorry to hear that. By the way Gold Coast are offering you 1mil a year for the next 5. If you're keen we can explore, otherwise just say the word and you wont hear about it again. You've done so much for the club mate we're happy to keep you on the books.

Gov: This clubs done so much for me its unfair of me to stay maybe I head over east for a few years and come back in time for the kids just starting primary school and have some generational wealth behind me.
 

Tugga27

Norm Smith Medallist
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Ok but say gov gets a ridiculous offer and approaches us to leave.. a situation that benefits both perhaps.

I would pull the trigger
Why would a club even think about offering a contract to a player who has 2.5 years left?

A player swap like Metra to us and Sinclair to Sydney was ok.
But trying to trade contracted club legends out is a no no.
 

Tugga27

Norm Smith Medallist
Jun 19, 2017
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For example

Gov: Gee Nizzy/Vozzo my body is cooked and I don't have the drive to prepare as elite as I should be to perform at the level you guys thought I could when you signed me for big bucks

Nizzy/Vozzo: That's too bad gov sorry to hear that. By the way Gold Coast are offering you 1mil a year for the next 5. If you're keen we can explore, otherwise just say the word and you wont hear about it again. You've done so much for the club mate we're happy to keep you on the books.

Gov: This clubs done so much for me its unfair of me to stay maybe I head over east for a few years and come back in time for the kids just starting primary school and have some generational wealth behind me.
Now you're in Laa Laa land:)
 

Miguel Sanchez

A punter
Aug 10, 2006
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For example

Gov: Gee Nizzy/Vozzo my body is cooked and I don't have the drive to prepare as elite as I should be to perform at the level you guys thought I could when you signed me for big bucks

Nizzy/Vozzo: That's too bad gov sorry to hear that. By the way Gold Coast are offering you 1mil a year for the next 5. If you're keen we can explore, otherwise just say the word and you wont hear about it again. You've done so much for the club mate we're happy to keep you on the books.

Gov: This clubs done so much for me its unfair of me to stay maybe I head over east for a few years and come back in time for the kids just starting primary school and have some generational wealth behind me.
In this example, why do Nizzy/Vozzo know about the contract offer from Gold Coast before McGovern does?

Why is Gov admitting he shouldn’t be on a big contract because he’s lost the drive for elite football, then looking at a similar sized contract elsewhere?

Why do these examples always have Gold Coast offering enormous deals to/for guys hitting 30? First Darling, now Gov.
 

the harry

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Sep 25, 2007
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This is a few words short of what Matt Rendell(?) said.

I get what he means, but you can't tell me private school boys don't have problems, they're just more expensive ones.

 
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ziad

Brownlow Medallist
May 2, 2009
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This is a few words short of what Matt Rendell(?) said.

I get what he means, but you can't tell me private school boys don't have problems, they're just me expensive ones.

poorly chosen words I suspect. he is in part (as a voice of the club) playing politics with the AFL.
 

Dark Sharks

Brownlow Medallist
Feb 21, 2011
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From Marc McGowan today about out of contract Eagles

Xavier O’Neill is no longer on the market since signing a two-year deal. Duggan is also looking at a multi-year contract, while Rotham and Foley are set to extend their stays as well. Redden has conceded he would have to be satisfied with a one-year deal. Brander is one of the Eagles’ most intriguing prospects who has always held appeal at rival teams, but is happy where he is. Spearhead Kennedy has not ruled out extending his career into a 17th season, while Hurn wants to play again next year. Ah Chee was in the team pre-hand injury but Ainsworth is out of the senior side and could be touch and go. Venables’ concussion issues could spell the end for him


Struth, looking at this would suggest we're not cutting a great deal at all at the end of the year then.

I will be MIGHTILY annoyed if we lose Brander.

Particularly with O'Neil getting a further 2 years. To me that is very generous. Would've gone 1 year at most and had him pegged to be delisted if we were to go really ruthless.



In other annoying news, Twomey just said on the podcast Ethan Regan has been asked about by many clubs now. Beyond pick 20 we can match but anything under, if a club wants him they can get him inside the first round. Hopefully he keeps growing, at 190cm's currently.
 

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Get_The_Gaff

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Apr 4, 2021
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Struth, looking at this would suggest we're not cutting a great deal at all at the end of the year then.

I will be MIGHTILY annoyed if we lose Brander.

Particularly with O'Neil getting a further 2 years. To me that is very generous. Would've gone 1 year at most and had him pegged to be delisted if we were to go really ruthless.



In other annoying news, Twomey just said on the podcast Ethan Regan has been asked about by many clubs now. Beyond pick 20 we can match but anything under, if a club wants him they can get him inside the first round. Hopefully he keeps growing, at 190cm's currently.
Does this first round rule include the QLD and NSW academies too ?
 

The_Gambler

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Jun 28, 2009
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273
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Struth, looking at this would suggest we're not cutting a great deal at all at the end of the year then.

I will be MIGHTILY annoyed if we lose Brander.

Particularly with O'Neil getting a further 2 years. To me that is very generous. Would've gone 1 year at most and had him pegged to be delisted if we were to go really ruthless.



In other annoying news, Twomey just said on the podcast Ethan Regan has been asked about by many clubs now. Beyond pick 20 we can match but anything under, if a club wants him they can get him inside the first round. Hopefully he keeps growing, at 190cm's currently.
had to keep O’Neill. Shuey is pretty much cooked, redden maybe 1-2 years at most, gaff declining
 

EagleEgo

Club Legend
Jun 3, 2008
1,540
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Perth
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This is a few words short of what Matt Rendell(?) said.

I get what he means, but you can't tell me private school boys don't have problems, they're just me expensive ones.

I dont mind picking up a potential Brownlow medalist from the Public School System. (for example: Shane Woewodin)
 

Dark Sharks

Brownlow Medallist
Feb 21, 2011
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Does this first round rule include the QLD and NSW academies too ?
Good question. No idea, one of our cartoon draft guns Monocle AsterixTheGaul will know.


had to keep O’Neill. Shuey is pretty much cooked, redden maybe 1-2 years at most, gaff declining

If that's the case you'd be hoping a third year AFL mid would've shown a bit more by now, to be given another 2 years in the system.

I like XON, but i was hoping this year would've yielded some meaningful improvement, and it hasn't.


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EagleEgo

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or a Rioli :eek:
Good one though some Riolis are private school boys, but that shows the social status does not define your ability to be a good citizen or a good footballer.
I was wondering whether Simmo was a private school boy. He might be just sarcastic about the whole situation.

Edit: Our great John Worsfold was from South Fremantle Senior High.
 
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amazingjoshy

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 29, 2005
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On the lastest Duff and Qtrs pod, Mark Readings seemed pretty sure Jordan Clark wants to play for WC. He did say whether that's possible is another thing
 

Happy Mastenator

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Apr 16, 2010
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This is a few words short of what Matt Rendell(?) said.

I get what he means, but you can't tell me private school boys don't have problems, they're just more expensive ones.

Well to be fair almost all the decent footballers are pulled up into private schools on scholarships anyway. There's a reason these schools are football factories, it's not because all their parents are rich and happen to live in the area.
 
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Monocle

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Does this first round rule include the QLD and NSW academies too ?
Yes it does, if they are taken in the first 20 then the QLD and NSW teams miss out, as they don't get the right to match, the only picks any Club get to match, in the first 20, are the Father Son prospects.
 

Monocle

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Struth, looking at this would suggest we're not cutting a great deal at all at the end of the year then.
In other annoying news, Twomey just said on the podcast Ethan Regan has been asked about by many clubs now. Beyond pick 20 we can match but anything under, if a club wants him they can get him inside the first round. Hopefully he keeps growing, at 190cm's currently.
Relax Ethan Reagan isn't going in the first 20, we will be ok to draft him by matching a bid after pick 20.
If we deem him good enough at the appropriate spot in the draft that he is bid on, we can match and he will be ours.
 

squashface

Masten and Waterman
Feb 26, 2012
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In other annoying news, Twomey just said on the podcast Ethan Regan has been asked about by many clubs now. Beyond pick 20 we can match but anything under, if a club wants him they can get him inside the first round. Hopefully he keeps growing, at 190cm's currently.
Good to see the rules have changed right when we might have a high academy prospect
 

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