List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

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Updated (20/3/24) the status of all contracts for people’s reference : Overall List - 44 Players : Main List(37), Rookie List(5), Cat B(2) Contracted until the end of 2027 (2) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023,2024,2025,2026,2027) on an existing contract set to...

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[Bender_]

So if we move SPS from the backline into the midfield can he reach his potential?

Unsure really - he was a midfielder as a junior, I think Carlton tried to pull their best West Coast and turn him into a flanker.

 

[EagleEgo]

Hehe

Is this the reason why he is notable?

 

[Dark Sharks]

It’s nice to know it isn’t only us that get bombarded with the same joke over and over and over and over and……

You love it more than Antique's Roadshow ya old kent

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Luke Ball to Collingwood was similar. They offered a 2nd round pick for Ball, Saints gave them the finger, Pies used that exact pick on Ball.

Ball also refused to answer phone calls and do medicals at any other club

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Unsure really - he was a midfielder as a junior, I think Carlton tried to pull their best West Coast and turn him into a flanker.

I like to think of it as the reverse West Coast. We draft flankers and try turn them into a midfielder, they have drafted a mid turn him into a flanker. It appears either technique has some kinks that need to be ironed out.

 

[Bender_]

I like to think of it as the reverse West Coast. We draft flankers and try turn them into a midfielder, they have drafted a mid turn him into a flanker. It appears either technique has some kinks that need to be ironed out.

As I said before (and even a few months back I posted that I'm keen to look into his availability) I'm pretty happy with him having a second chance at West Coast, I think at his best he can be best 22 and hopefully we can get it out of him.

 

[kane249]

Is this the reason why he is notable?

No, he's more known as being the model for the Easter Island statues

 

[Bender_]

No, he's more known as being the model for the Easter Island statues
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In that pic he's always reminded me of the little chicken hawk from Foghorn Leghorn cartoons.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

No, he's more known as being the model for the Easter Island statues
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Suddenly it becomes clear why he wanted to join Pav at Freo

 

[PremiershipNo4]

So if we move SPS from the backline into the midfield can he reach his potential?

Potentially

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Thats another reason why defenders can't zone off them, they will hit the scoreboard, unlike a Langdon not being able to kick it 30m

Doesn't stop Langdon from going back to the 50 m line and falling short in his kick

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Guys walking in the pre-season draft has been pretty rare in the past decade or so, to the point that a few times they haven’t even held a PSD.

Apart from Jack Martin, the last guy to delist himself and go in the PSD was probably Bachar Houli in 2010.

Luke Ball and Ben Jacobs put themselves in the main draft, there might be others like that.

Jackson Hately says to say hello

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Jackson Hately says to say hello

Oh yeah, forgot that bloke.

 

[Balls In]

Not having a go at the club or anything(so don’t pile on me Miguel Sanchez and HoneyBadger35) but have we ever turned another’s struggler into a good player? I’d say Josh Hill came close to that but I always thought he was such a down hill skier.

Cripps has had a pretty good career with us

 

[Dark Sharks]

Who does SPS replace in our starting side from 2021? Or do we pony up for him then make him play WAFL like Jetta, Redden and Withers had to do.


FB: Hurn, Barrass, Sheppard
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Cole
C: Gaff Shuey Sheed
HF: Cripps Darling Rioli
FF: Ryan Kennedy Allen

FOL: Naitanui, Kelly, Yeo

INT: Redden, Petrucelle? Witherden? Williams?


Guessing West, Langdon, Nelson Waterman, Ledwards, Hedwards and Rotham will all start in the WAFL unfortunately.

Credits are topped up at the start of each season.

 

[squashface]

Now we're up to two turkeys who have confused SPS with SPP

 

[Dark Sharks]

Now we're up to two turkeys who have confused SPS with SPP

How else are they getting Yeo ya dickhead

 

[Bender_]

Who does SPS replace in our starting side from 2021? Or do we pony up for him then make him play WAFL like Jetta, Redden and Withers had to do.


FB: Hurn, Barrass, Sheppard
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Cole
C: Gaff Shuey Sheed
HF: Cripps Darling Rioli
FF: Ryan Kennedy Allen

FOL: Naitanui, Kelly, Yeo

INT: Redden, Petrucelle? Witherden? Williams?


Guessing West, Langdon, Nelson Waterman, Ledwards, Hedwards and Rotham will all start in the WAFL unfortunately.

Credits are topped up at the start of each season.

I'd say he comes in for McGovern who'll be out until 2025 with experimental hip replacement.

 

[darksquare]

Right. Enough of SPS. And SPP, and the SSP.

Stephen Silvagni says that Coniglio to WA should be an option. Time to perform our annual pilgrimage to that shrine...

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Who does SPS replace in our starting side from 2021? Or do we pony up for him then make him play WAFL like Jetta, Redden and Withers had to do.

Depends what we pony up for him, doesn’t it?

If we only give pick 49 for him there wouldn’t be a real expectation that he’d be in our best 22 from day dot.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Depends what we pony up for him, doesn’t it?

If we only give pick 49 for him there wouldn’t be a real expectation that he’d be in our best 22 from day dot.

Spot on Beets.

I realize it might sound a bit harsh, but if we're coughing up pick 35 i feel that's B22 expectations, not just depth.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Who does SPS replace in our starting side from 2021? Or do we pony up for him then make him play WAFL like Jetta, Redden and Withers had to do.


FB: Hurn, Barrass, Sheppard
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Cole
C: Gaff Shuey Sheed
HF: Cripps Darling Rioli
FF: Ryan Kennedy Allen

FOL: Naitanui, Kelly, Yeo

INT: Redden, Petrucelle? Witherden? Williams?


Guessing West, Langdon, Nelson Waterman, Ledwards, Hedwards and Rotham will all start in the WAFL unfortunately.

Credits are topped up at the start of each season.

Who would we be taking at pick 50 or so (if thats what it takes to get him) that would be in the starting 22? There is always opportunity that arises for players during the course of the season.

This season we had Brander, Ainsworth, Xon, Foley, West, Ledwards play in the midfield for a combined 37 games. Given Brander and Ainsworth were 12 of those games, there's plenty of opportunity around...

 

[Dark Sharks]

Who would we be taking at pick 50 or so (if thats what it takes to get him) that would be in the starting 22? There is always opportunity that arises for players during the course of the season.

This season we had Brander, Ainsworth, Xon, Foley, West, Ledwards play in the midfield for a combined 37 games. Given Brander and Ainsworth were 12 of those games, there's plenty of opportunity around...

Yeah but that's different isn't it.

A young draftee taken with 35 or 49 is obviously expected to sit in the WAFL for X amount of time. That's a given. Even longer if they are a KPP.


A 24yr old who's going into his sixth season of AFL on the other hand, is a different matter. I'm sure he'll play at some point, of course. But considering him B22 material compared to depth that would primarily sit in the WAFL if we have a healthy list, should change what we're prepared to give Carlton IMO.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I am wanting Doggies to win on Saturday. The main reason (apart from Demons being a flog of a club) is that their 1st rounder will be pick 18 and hence less points but still counting as first rounder. We can then take 2 first rounders in 2021 and get our 1st round requirements refreshed.

If we can get say pick 30 from the Cats for Brander, we go for 29, 35 and 60 for Doggies pick 18 (a premium of 436 points). We then pass over pick 45 for SPS (worth less than Brander since talls need more development). Regan as a rookie - but a fall back if we need to match NGA points for Regan, we can slide back in the 2022 later rounds or pass if too high a price.

This would leave us pick 10, 18 and 30. We go 2 rookies for a 37/5 list split and go a couple of NGA prospects for the Beagles.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Yeah but that's different isn't it.

A young draftee taken with 35 or 49 is obviously expected to sit in the WAFL for X amount of time. That's a given. Even longer if they are a KPP.


A 24yr old who's going into his sixth season of AFL on the other hand, is a different matter. I'm sure he'll play at some point, of course. But considering him B22 material compared to depth that would primarily sit in the WAFL if we have a healthy list, should change what we're prepared to give Carlton IMO.

He could theoretically replace any of the players bolded if they missed. With a shuffle of positions, e.g. Shuey to Half Forward, or Yeo / SPS to half back, for parts of the game

FB: Hurn, Barrass, Sheppard
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Cole
C: Gaff Shuey Sheed
HF: Cripps Darling Rioli
FF: Ryan Kennedy Allen
FOL: Naitanui, Kelly, Yeo

INT: Redden, Petrucelle? Witherden? Williams?

That's the majority of the team. If he's good enough he'll find time. If not he plays WAFL. I'm sure we have made no promises to him that he'll be a guaranteed best 22.

The key is getting him for that pick 49.