List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2021 offseason edition

[Keys]

So the 2021 season is officially done and dusted.

It’s time now to fully turn our attention to the off season and what we can do through the trade period/draft to chase down Melbourne in 2022.

List and personnel changes have already been made and I’ll update this OP as and when any further changes are made.

As it stands these are our official list changes :

Out -
• Venables (R) - retired
• Vardy - retired
• Hutchings (R) - delisted
• Ah Chee (R) - delisted
• Ainsworth - delisted
• Johnson - delisted
• Collins (R) - delisted
• Brander - cluster*
• Cameron - retired/delisted not that it was officially acknowledged by the club
• Sheppard - retired

Inactive listed -
• Cole
• Chesser

In -
• Petrevski-Seton - traded for pick 52
• Chesser - Pick 14
• Hough - Pick 31
• Bazzo - Pick 37
• Williams (Jack) - Pick 57
• Clark - Pick 62
• Dixon - SSP
• Joyce - SSP
• Strnadica - SSP
• Naish - SSP

Players on main list - 37 (Including 2 inactive)
Players on rookie list - 7

Future trade picks :
In - Port Adelaide future 2nd
Out - Future 4th

Assistant Coaches :
• Out - Graham, Hickmott
• In - Schofield (Strategy and Stoppage), Knights (Midfield), Wiley (WAFL coach), Brennan (development)

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

Updated (20/3/24) the status of all contracts for people’s reference : Overall List - 44 Players : Main List(37), Rookie List(5), Cat B(2) Contracted until the end of 2027 (2) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023,2024,2025,2026,2027) on an existing contract set to...

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[Dark Sharks]

Disappointed to be 3 pages into melts and still nobody has said it..


FOLD THE CLUB

 

[bzparkes]

You'd think so but WCE have an unwarranted hard on for petch.

I just dont see it. Only has speed, no poise.

Except our own board poster rated him as our 11th best player this year and jones wasn't even top 20. I know games played will have a part in that however if people think that speed is the only attribute he has then they're clearly not paying much attention to him.

Developing nicely every season, especially for a player with a limited footy background prior to drafting. As long as there's year on year improvement hat's all you can ask for.

Best 22 when fit for me. His best games have been better than Jones' also, however I do think there's a place in the side for Jones also.

 

[Monocle]

Petch has speed and hurt factor when he plays well. He just needs to get more consistent and his body stronger to string more games together. Every season he has improved somewhere, with a couple of nasty hamstring injuries plus covid to deal with.

You make some valid points Obeanie1

However.

What he really needs is to use that speed of his ............. in TWO way running.

I swear to God that he always seems to me as if he runs 20% quicker running towards the goals than he does running away from it.

With that blistering pace of his, he should be applying speed to chase and run down opposition defenders that are exiting our forward 50 with ball in hand.

Classic greedy hungry forward, that get an extra boost of speed if they think a goal may be in the offing, pity he doesn't apply similar defensive pressure with his pace, should he ever develop this trait to his game he will be a very dangerous and effective HFF.

 

[boondy]

Hope Brander tears it up for his new club and shoves it right in our face. F*** we are useless

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You cant make judgements without the facts .

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I have so leave out the we - it was embarrasing at AFL and WAFL level.

Which AFL games of him as a KPP did you see, apart from on debut against Sydney as an 18 year old?

 

[Bender_]

Disappointed to be 3 pages into melts and still nobody has said it..


FOLD THE CLUB

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Folding the club is so 2020.

We LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT now.

 

[FKASC]

Clubs delist first round picks all the time after a few years. This must have been our first in a long time if ever.

Exactly. Carlton effectively just delisted two top 10 picks this year alone, Gold Coast another. The player taken directly after Brander was just delisted by Sydney.

Mid teens picks get delisted every year.

The fact we drafted him in the first place and didn’t trade him for Kelly (if true) are * ups, but him being delisted isn’t that big a deal.

 

[FKASC]

Folding the club is so 2020.

We LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT now.

It’s like Covid.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I’m 190cm standing, 201cm lying on my back watching the final two minutes of the 2018 GF.

Not needing to know your girth - topic was height

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Maybe sit Petch down over the off-season and get him to watch tapes of Langdon at Melbourne- no reason we couldn’t use him in the same way with his pace

Langdon has elite endurance which is not a great attribute for Petruccelle

 

[Dark Sharks]

Learn to live with it is just Fold the Club, from Wish.

 

[Obeanie1]

You make some valid points Obeanie1

However.

What he really needs is to use that speed of his ............. in TWO way running.

I swear to God that he always seems to me as if he runs 20% quicker running towards the goals than he does running away from it.

With that blistering pace of his, he should be applying speed to chase and run down opposition defenders that are exiting our forward 50 with ball in hand.

Classic greedy hungry forward, that get an extra boost of speed if they think a goal may be in the offing, pity he doesn't apply similar defensive pressure with his pace, should he ever develop this trait to his game he will be a very dangerous and effective HFF.

Yes I know the type you are describing.

Re Petch and running flat out, with those two or is it three hamstring injuries, one was a 9 week rehab, I feel Petch hasnt got his body developed yet nor knows how hard he can push without breaking.

Read elsewhere gun players looking back saying they went flat out when they were younger and injured themselves pushing the limits. Then with a more developed body and experience they knew what they could do, more often and for longer without breaking down.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You cant make judgements without the facts .

You must be new to the internet!

 

[Rowan18]

I won't lose sleep over Brander going to another club. This screams of bad attitude. The bloke has skills but doesn't attack the ball hard enough for anything other than a outside role. He won't be missed.

 

[bl4ke]

Can someone enlighten me as to how we messed up the whole erasmus nga thing

 

[Balls In]

Remarkable offield cluster that. A costly shambles when you factor the opportunity cost of not picking up Kelly in 2017. The whole thing is going to hurt us for years to come. What a s**t period its been after also losing Venables and crashing out of finals despite adding four AA players to our premiership winning list. .

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Why keep a guy who doesn't want to be at the club?
He's obviously made his intentions clear.

#letitgo

Unfortunately we couldn't get at least a token pick or upgrade for him

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Can someone enlighten me as to how we messed up the whole erasmus nga thing

He was eligible for our academy, but we missed the cut off. Something to do with a missed email.

But he wouldn't last until pick 21 anyway, when we could match a bid.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

So Darling plays WAFL?

Or Kennedy or Allen.
Just don't play all 3 it doesn't work and then we are stuck with a back up ruck on the bench instead of an extra runner

 

[Monocle]

Can someone enlighten me as to how we messed up the whole erasmus nga thing

It's not that straight forward as "we messed the whole thing up " the young player has to be wanting to be part of the NGA and in his case cricket was his number one priority consequently he choose cricket over football.

My understanding of the situation, now after have been given some more information by someone very close to the matter, is that the Club tried but neither his family ( parents ) or he were keen to commit to football over cricket.
So he didn't sign on for the NGA.

Things change and players in both sports develop at different rates and kids change their minds.

So by the time that he realised that he preferred football over cricket, the time had well passed for us to be able to list him as a NGA player.

 

[amazingjoshy]

North has delisted Trent Dumont

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Trent Dumont

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

10.5

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

2.6

4star

D

20.1

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

9.7

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

2.4

4star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.6

1star

T

4.4

5star

CL

2.6

5star

from the sounds

Some fairly decent players being delisted

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It's not that straight forward as "we messed the whole thing up " the young player has to be wanting to be part of the NGA and in his case cricket was his number one priority consequently he choose cricket over football.

My understanding of the situation, now after have been given some more information by someone very close to the matter, is that the Club tried but neither his family ( parents ) or he were keen to commit to football over cricket.
So he didn't sign on for the NGA.

Things change and players in both sports develop at different rates and kids change their minds.

So by the time that he realised that he preferred football over cricket, the time had well passed for us to be able to list him as a NGA player.

Thanks for that, sounds like less of an administrative stuff-up than it did previously.

And of no actual consequence anyway if he goes in the top 20, which seems almost certain.

 

[bombard]

God you know it's deep off-season when people are liking posts from 2017. Am I right FKASC?

 

[Animaluke]

So with Brander being delisted do we think list mangers are thinking of getting another key fwd/back in his place like he was drafted for or do we think they will go a mid instead?

He obviously struggled to find a role with our bounty of tall stocks atm but give it a couple of years and Kennedy, gov, darling and Barrass are all finished up or finishing and we will need more. That being said we need more mids/mid options at the moment.

Will be interesting to see the drafting strategy.

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[Mulldogg]

At least the Brander delisting goes some way to explaining his weird mid-season “back injury” after he was not named in either the Beagles nor the senior side. Took ages for the club to come out with what the hell was going on. Barely got a look in for the rest of the year after that.

Reckon there is more to him being let go than meets the eye.