List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

[Astro7]

Ah Chee played every game he was available for this year, it is hardly surprising on that basis that he has earned another contract.

I hope he either improves or gets overtaken in 2021 though.

Yep, I don't mind him being depth-on-call, but not best 22? (doubt that'll happen anymore?)
Does a good thing now+again, but doesn't seem consistent or able to improve beyond where he's at now...(a low key footy brain?)

 

[Dark Sharks]

All because of a big ol handball he did once

That's a bit harsh cob, he's done 3 of those his entire 10 year career.

Also stuck 2 grabs going up for a speccy from 60000 attempts which is pretty good

 

[Chris_6678]

Masten's coming into the office today, please list your questions below.

Ask him about the time he had a nose ring.

 

[dewcefault]

And that is the interesting thing. If we don't gain and use a 1st this season then we can't trade next years 1st in any trades.

So if say to land Cripps we need to trade next year our 2021 1st can't be used.

So either we get a 1st this year or we don't trade for any top players next year on our target list. Unless we trade out players next year to land a Cripps or other option.

And I will repeat myself, I don't want Cripps unless as a free agent. IMO he will be too banged up and simply cost too much in a trade. Blues will want Judd like compensation.

I would say from a negotiation point of view that puts us in a very strong position with Carlton.

Don't match. If you do we can only trade you a future first so you're actually better off with the band 1 compo (assuming the don't make finals as Cripps is much more likely to stay if Carlton finish in the 8)

There'd be very few gettable players on our list that would make sense to move across to Carlton

 

[BOND 007]

BOND 007
For us that are trades and draft enthusiasts, are you able to shed some light on what is happening behind the scenes currently? - I understand that you can't give too much detailed information but any info you can give would be greatly appreciated.

The general machinations, how the players are generally ranked (by position, something more complex?), plan A, plan B, plan C or something far more fluid. How much say Simmo has on draftees/trades. Who has the final say when it's a stalemate between two potential draftees.

Anything else you think we should be enlightened about? Common misconceptions?

Cheers,
AE

Without describing trade secrets, WC & I imagine all clubs follow a pretty set path after internal discussions
1) There will be a list of top ranked players which may extend into 30's, 40's or even 50's.
2) All players will have notes about their strengths & weaknesses in the position or positions they play.
3) based on strengths/weaknesses assessments are made whether they are capable of playing other more critical positions i.e. midfield, key position.

Simmo is consulted at all times & gives input into what he is seeking.

 

[Chad in Vegas]

And that is the interesting thing. If we don't gain and use a 1st this season then we can't trade next years 1st in any trades.

So if say to land Cripps we need to trade next year our 2021 1st can't be used.

So either we get a 1st this year or we don't trade for any top players next year on our target list. Unless we trade out players next year to land a Cripps or other option.

And I will repeat myself, I don't want Cripps unless as a free agent. IMO he will be too banged up and simply cost too much in a trade. Blues will want Judd like compensation.

I would wait to see what Cripps (and our list) looks like at the end of next season before deciding what we would be willing to give up for him (or any other top end players). Would be good to have the flexibility next year though and if we could turn one of next years seconds in to say GWS' end of first round pick I would be all for it.

 

[Chad in Vegas]

I would say from a negotiation point of view that puts us in a very strong position with Carlton.

Don't match. If you do we can only trade you a future first so you're actually better off with the band 1 compo (assuming the don't make finals as Cripps is much more likely to stay if Carlton finish in the 8)

There'd be very few gettable players on our list that would make sense to move across to Carlton

I can't envision a circumstance where Carlton don't match. Cripps also doesn't strike me as the sort of person that would be looking to shaft his club on the way out the door by pushing for that scenario either.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Without describing trade secrets, WC & I imagine all clubs follow a pretty set path after internal discussions
1) There will be a list of top ranked players which may extend into 30's, 40's or even 50's.
2) All players will have notes about their strengths & weaknesses in the position or positions they play.
3) based on strengths/weaknesses assessments are made whether they are capable of playing other more critical positions i.e. midfield, key position.

Simmo is consulted at all times & gives input into what he is seeking.

Thanks mate. Very much appreciated!

 

[Chris_6678]

adrian barich

@adrianbarich
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1m

Eagles have signed Mark Hutchings

34

Mark Hutchings

Age

34

Ht

182cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.8

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

19.4

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

3.6

5star

to a one year rookie contract
@7NewsPerth

 

[Altum Volantes]

As expected...

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Would have kept Jetta over Hutchings tbh.

 

[KO_KO]

Would have kept Jetta over Hutchings tbh.

Hutchins can kick better

Apricots are also available at local supermarkets, just saying


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[Suma Magic]

Getting closer to the full picture.

Do we find out all the details today? Including the Cat B request stuff?

 

[Suma Magic]

Our midfield depth is terrible. I was always a big advocate of keeping Hutch.

 

[Doashuey]

Would have kept Jetta over Hutchings tbh.

My thoughts exactly.
Lays to rest any arguement Jets wasnt signed because of his dodgey calfs. Hutch is way more injury prone and cant play through a busted string like Jets can play through a torn calf, leaving us short on the bench. I know that midfield depth is a concern which might have helped them decide to retain Hutch but it looks more like Jets ousting was based on personal or cultural reasons than pure football reasons.
Id love to know exactly what went on but suspect we wont for some years until Jets puts out a book.

 

[Chappy McChap]

Cedric Cox

20

Cedric Cox

Age

28

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.2

2star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.2

3star

has been delisted by the Brians today. We can just sign him straight away? Worth a list spot??

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Cedric Cox

20

Cedric Cox

Age

28

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.2

2star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.2

3star

has been delisted by the Brians today. We can just sign him straight away? Worth a list spot??

Not a senior list spot, which we’d have to give him if we signed him now.

 

[Dark Sharks]

So Ah Chee, Vardy (matter of time) and Hutchings all signed.


Looks like Brayden is currently the only one left out in the cold. (Excluding Rioli and Venables)

 

[Chad in Vegas]

So Ah Chee, Vardy (matter of time) and Hutchings all signed.


Looks like Brayden is currently the only one left out in the cold.

Just a bit of back and forth on the contract length, the club has offered 5 years but Brains is pushing for a 6th.

 

[Obeanie1]

I can't envision a circumstance where Carlton don't match. Cripps also doesn't strike me as the sort of person that would be looking to shaft his club on the way out the door by pushing for that scenario either.

The only way they don't match is if they fall and the compo pick is heaps better than ours AND we do another deal such as trading say Williams or Brander for McGovern and take that full salary after another poor season from Mitch.

Which isn't really allowed but.....

Or Blues land Z Merrett as a fa for free and trade Cripps for unders.

 

[mattyc75]

Having not seen Cedric cox

20

Cedric Cox

Age

28

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.2

2star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.2

3star

play would he be worth a rookie spot? Midfield potential?

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[Obeanie1]

Getting closer to the full picture.

Do we find out all the details today? Including the Cat B request stuff?

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Any chance the AFL renames the Rookie list.

Because we don't seem to see many rookies on any rookie lists these days.

Just saying!

 

[Obeanie1]

Tigers

Derek Eggmolesse-Smith

43

Derek...

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

4star

MG

310.5

4star

D

16.5

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.5

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.0

4star

MG

310.5

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

4star

MG

310.5

5star

(del)

Now this kid played a couple of nice games across half back last season. Nice mover and kick, looked like he needed to work on his tank.

 

[Suma Magic]

Any chance the AFL renames the Rookie list.

Because we don't seem to see many rookies on any rookie lists these days.

Just saying!

Yeah it doesn't really make sense.

They should just change to a single list, except make it so players in the 4th round onwards only need to be offered one year. Then Cat B separate.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

The only difference with the rookie list seems to be that $80,000 of their salary doesn’t count towards the cap. There’s no age or games restriction and they can now play any time without waiting for a long term injury.

Why not just give clubs the equivalent of six $80,000 contracts (I.e $480,000) extra room in their cap? Seeing as every club seems to be spending that anyway.