This 100%.I have a problem with Bucks having so many. Really who in the 90’s was going to beat him? The side was trash for a long time and only had him. He’s a great player, Brownlow year shows that but he was very much a selfish player. For me he doesn’t compare to Pendles, Scotty is the goat. Bucks was a great player and an average coach.
My Collingwood all time bests:
Collier (Either one)
Gavin Brown was everything you could ever want from a footballer. Courageous, skilful, team oriented and a great leader. Him and Scotty Burns were greatly underrated because of the presence of figjam.
Definitely some recency bias here but some of the oldies were just too good to leave off just from stats alone.
People seem to forget he was about 20/21 when we got him. But was a soft as butter outside receiver for most of his first 3-4 seasons. People bag Naicos for not being hard at it. Jesus, Buckley used to dive out of the way and clap his hands at team mates on the bottom of packs to hand ball it out to him.
He also play wing, half fwd and half back a hell of a lot in his earlier years. He got a lot of easy ball off half back. He was certainly no brown or Millane when it come to contested ball.
It wasn’t really till Malthouse got there that he bulked up, learnt to tackle, win an hard ball and played centre 100%. And those three or 4 years from about 2000-2003 were indeed elite.
Then his body broke down and we never got that same output again.
Buckley himself in his own biography outlines his flaws as a player. Sure our list was putrid in the late nineties. But it didn’t help we have our best player spraying team mates constantly for their errors and playing for stats.
Much like Naicos this year, due to phenomenal coaching the club won a qualifying final with our Buckley in 02. Perhaps the greatest win of Buckleys career at Collingwood and he didn’t even play in it.
Pendlebury has been an elite centre man from 2008 to 2023. That’s 16 seasons at an elite level. Sure you could argue Buckleys best may have been more dominant at times than Pendles. But Pendles never sprays his players like Buckley did. Pendles gets more out of his team mates as a result.
Lastly, without Pendles we don’t win in 2010 nor 2023. That last qtr in the GF was the best performance and most dominate performance I’ve seen from a Collingwood player when it mattered most. He inspired his team mates all through out this finals series - putting his body on the line time and again (which is something he’s never been renowned for).
Hands down Pendlebury, with two premierships and the most consistent elite career at Collingwood, and up there in AFL history, whilst playing 16 years in the middle is by far the best and most dominant player I have seen at Collingwood in the AFL era.
I can’t comment on Peter Moore or those before as I didn’t see them play. In any event, if it ain’t Pendlebury - then it’s Millane. Watch his highlights. Toughest and most courageous player and a true winner like Leigh matthews and Dustin Martin. Had Millane not died, Buckley wouldn’t even get mentioned. He’d have been always compared to Pants and due to his softness in his early years - Buckley wouldn’t be as revered.