Corey Gault

[jmac70]

Did you see Jono Brown's first game?
Didn't touch it

Wasn't Gaults first game though. Let's be honest, it was about as bad as it gets.

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

Wasn't Gaults first game though. Let's be honest, it was about as bad as it gets.

He played like it was his first game, no composure, these are the only contributions I can remember:
- Failed to stick a tackle on a smaller bloke
- Panic soccer off the ground to the opposition instead of just picking it up
- Dropped chest mark
- Couple of shots on goal from 50m+ that didn't make it or missed.

Did he do anything else? Obviously back to the VFL and will need to be kicking 4-5 goals for a few weeks in a row before he gets another look

 

[Robroy22]

Wasn't Gaults first game though. Let's be honest, it was about as bad as it gets.

And yet in the last ten minutes when everything was against us....he took a mark (didn't kick the distance but we knew that) he got a centre bounce tap (we didn't get many of those) and he competed just as hard as anyone. Until White starts taking marks overhead or Cox gets promoted and can play....I'm fine with letting Gault find out where he fits within the side. He's a kid, he needs confidence, dropping him now will just ensure he never gets the confidence that one good game can give.

Now Tommy Langdon and Caff of the other hand...

 

[TheSierBear]

Justifying a Bigfooty existence

I need to write that down, gold.

Well I did have it as existence but I know you're a dobber, so I changed it to that.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Justifying a Bigfooty existence

I need to write that down, gold.

Have to ask who is the avatar?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Did you see Jono Brown's first game?
Didn't touch it

It's fair to say Mr Brown progressed nicely indeed....

 

[didaksrightfoot]

And yet in the last ten minutes when everything was against us....he took a mark (didn't kick the distance but we knew that) he got a centre bounce tap (we didn't get many of those) and he competed just as hard as anyone. Until White starts taking marks overhead or Cox gets promoted and can play....I'm fine with letting Gault find out where he fits within the side. He's a kid, he needs confidence, dropping him now will just ensure he never gets the confidence that one good game can give.

Now Tommy Langdon and Caff of the other hand...

But he's not a "kid" anymore. He's been in the system 4 years, and is only 4 years younger than White. People don't seem to get that. He has never come close to providing what White can provide for us in the forward line, and yet peopke keep wanting to give him a chance and want White delisted and keep calling him shit.

White has his clear limitations, no doubt, but he is a more than serviceable 2nd or 3rd (ideally) tall forward who can compete in the ruck. He wont kick a game open and wont dominate, but he will always keep his man honest and is generally good for 1-2 goals a game and a few key marks up forward.
I have never seen Gault get even close to that at AFL level. In fact unless you count his first game (where Hawthorn basically ignored him) i have never come out of a game thinking that he even made a contest with his opponent... And most of the time his opponent is playing very loosely off him and covering the rest of the forward line.

Fair enough give him anothe game or two (at the most) but at some point we have to bite the bullet and accept he just not up to this standard. (which is nothing to be disappointed about - its a brilliant effort just getting an AFL game)

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Now Tommy Langdon and Caff of the other hand...

Just wanted to separate Langdon and Macaffer.
On review I now get that Tom may be heading for a spell in the twos, or been given a shot across the bows, but he's the future and shows plenty.
Macaffer on the other hand used to show a lot but he is the past. Just seems from a different time.

Now not to tell p,ayers what to do, but sorry, What's with the man bun Tom? Yuk.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

But he's not a "kid" anymore. He's been in the system 4 years, and is only 4 years younger than White. People don't seem to get that. He has never come close to providing what White can provide for us in the forward line, and yet peopke keep wanting to give him a chance and want White delisted and keep calling him shit.

White has his clear limitations, no doubt, but he is a more than serviceable 2nd or 3rd (ideally) tall forward who can compete in the ruck. He wont kick a game open and wont dominate, but he will always keep his man honest and is generally good for 1-2 goals a game and a few key marks up forward.
I have never seen Gault get even close to that at AFL level. In fact unless you count his first game (where Hawthorn basically ignored him) i have never come out of a game thinking that he even made a contest with his opponent... And most of the time his opponent is playing very loosely off him and covering the rest of the forward line.

Fair enough give him anothe game or two (at the most) but at some point we have to bite the bullet and accept he just not up to this standard. (which is nothing to be disappointed about - its a brilliant effort just getting an AFL game)

Whatever White lack of footy thinking, his limitations he's well ahead of Gault thus far.

Simple scenario: today you are picking the Grand Final side, we are doing well all us good, spate of injuries we only left with the third tall and there standing is Jesse and Cory. Only can pick one?
White for me clearly.
If it's two years away well maybe you punt Cory will develop, that is the Hail Mary call.

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Whatever White lack of footy thinking, his limitations he's well ahead of Gault thus far.

Simple scenario: today you are picking the Grand Final side, we are doing well all us good, spate of injuries we only left with the third tall and there standing is Jesse and Cory. Only can pick one?
White for me clearly.
If it's two years away well maybe you punt Cory will develop, that is the Hail Mary call.

Same scenario - but if we have to pick for the 2018 GF without knowing what happens between now and then: my money would very much be on a 30yo White rather than a 26yo Gault... And for me, that is the clear difference in why I don't see Gault having much of an AFL future with usm

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Same scenario - but if we have to pick for the 2018 GF without knowing what happens between now and then: my money would very much be on a 30yo White rather than a 26yo Gault... And for me, that is the clear difference in why I don't see Gault having much of an AFL future with usm

And you are probably right, very likely yes.
I like your 2018 scenario. Because that's what's happening in a way, preparing for a better future.
I've done all my assumptions that both are fit and healthy.
And taking it one step further, if the third person was available being Cox, and one only?
I'd plump for Cox easily actually.

 

[didaksrightfoot]

And you are probably right, very likely yes.
I like your 2018 scenario. Because that's what's happening in a way, preparing for a better future.
I've done all my assumptions that both are fit and healthy.
And taking it one step further, if the third person was available being Cox, and one only?
I'd plump for Cox easily actually.

Still White for mine... I see Cox having more potential than Gault - but he is just too much of an unknown at AFL level for me at this stage... But his progress over the last 12 months has been great- so if that trajectory continues, then yeah, Cox would be a fair bet.

 

[The Dawes]

I'm one of those who really backed his promotion.

Looks like he may have fooled us again. Oh well, Howe is there now and I guess we could always bring back...*gulp* Jesse White.

Can't we promote Cox due to Swan?

Well, he does have that electrified fooling machine.

I was a little embarrassed by a couple of his efforts. Don't want to be too critical, but perhaps best he goes back to the VFL and try and contribute there.

 

[jmac70]

And yet in the last ten minutes when everything was against us....he took a mark (didn't kick the distance but we knew that) he got a centre bounce tap (we didn't get many of those) and he competed just as hard as anyone. Until White starts taking marks overhead or Cox gets promoted and can play....I'm fine with letting Gault find out where he fits within the side. He's a kid, he needs confidence, dropping him now will just ensure he never gets the confidence that one good game can give.

Now Tommy Langdon and Caff of the other hand...

I respect your view mate but in my opinion there is nothing surer that Gault being dropped this week. He spent most of the second half on the bench.

 

[bucksisbest]

He was obviously pathetic, bar some decent ruck contests.

Was he genuinely going for goal when he was about 45 out on both times, or was he lobbing it to a hot spot. Staggered to think a 6 foot 6 key forward has a nine iron 40 metre kick.

 

[Pies_10]

That panic soccer to the Richmond player was just unbelievable.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I respect your view mate but in my opinion there is nothing surer that Gault being dropped this week. He spent most of the second half on the bench.

In: White
Out: Gault
Easily decided and accomplished

 

[TradeDraft]

Few Times he had the Ball and looked like he had No Idea what to do with the Ball

 

[TradeDraft]

I agree. Offers more than Grundy and at least competes and gets his hands on it in the Ruck.

IF he is our Best Ruck we might was go in with None and and have 1 of Cloke and Moore Ruck

 

[TradeDraft]

In: White
Out: Gault
Easily decided and accomplished

I rather give Cox a go and White is a Defender now

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I rather give Cox a go and White is a Defender now

Cox has to show some form first. He only has one good NAB game in this year's credits column. Not enough to be put on the senior list yet.

 

[jmac70]

Cox has to show some form first. He only has one good NAB game in this year's credits column. Not enough to be put on the senior list yet.

Selection this week will really depend on Witt's hand injury. IMO the first option should be to drop Gault and play Grundy and Witts together for a decent stretch of games. During this time our two Americans can continue to develop in the VFL. If the Witts / Grundy combo fails to gel we can play Cox in the second half of the year. As for Gault, it would take a miracle to erase the memory of his performance on Friday night, as you know Bucks can be an unforgiving man.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I respect your view mate but in my opinion there is nothing surer that Gault being dropped this week. He spent most of the second half on the bench.

Got to agree, he didn't look at all like an AFL player
It was worth a try, now we go to plan B with his position

 

[Spatfers]

Thank f*** for that!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Got to agree, he didn't look at all like an AFL player
It was worth a try, now we go to plan B with his position

I would like to hope he gets another (last) chance later in the season.