Certified Legendary Thread Corona, Jamaica ooh I wanna take ya (COVID-19 Information & Discussion Here)

[jenny61_99]

It’s an interesting question. I would have thought coming in from OS was a federal responsibility. utensil up either way

Wasn’t she IN quarantine in VIC? Beggars belief that one lot of authorities didn’t hand her over to the other. Incompetence all around.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

It’s an interesting question. I would have thought coming in from OS was a federal responsibility. utensil up either way

I could be wrong and probably I am but Biosecurity is Federal and Health is State. Some one in Vic Health needs a talking to.
1990Crow any thoughts.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

South Australian authorities only found out a British woman, who became SA’s first coronavirus case in almost three weeks, had arrived in the state after she landed at Adelaide Airport, SA Health chief public health officer Nicola Spurrier says.
In a shock admission, Professor Spurrier told ABC Radio Adelaide this morning that SA Health did not know the woman, in her 50s, was flying into SA from Melbourne on Sunday and only became aware of her arrival when she alerted authorities herself.

“We didn’t receive a critical piece of information from the other state and that meant that when the person came through the Adelaide Airport we didn’t have that information to hand on exactly which day she was coming,” she said.

“We didn’t know the day she was arriving.

“As soon as she arrived she came up and made herself known to the airport authorities…and then we were able to get our officers to come and escort her.”

Professor Spurrier acknowledged this meant authorities were unable to prepare for her arrival.

“This is the reason why we’ve had more close contacts than we necessarily should have had,” she said.

“This is the sort of thing I will be bringing up with the other chief health officers.

“We just wont say yes (to exemption applications) until we’ve got everything.”


Professor Spurrier did not weigh in on whether Victorian authorities had erred in their handling of the matter.

Despite being escorted by Australian Federal Police, the airline was not told she was exempt from quarantine.

The aircraft was removed from service on Monday and deep cleaned.

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[skam85]

I guess this is why Kane Cornes can go running Kane McGoodwin . His Twitter post showed his essential worker paperwork. They don't need to quarantine.

I've got the same letter. I have had to fly in and out of Brisbane (from Melb) twice in the past three weeks (I'm here now) as my work is essential, nor do I need to quarantine.

The border stuff in Brisbane is interesting to say the least. Army, AFP are there. They ask you a couple of questions and check your paperwork/job letter and away you go. I've had stricter questioning internationally travelling for a holiday. And crucially, no temperature checks. I would have thought that would have been a non-negotiable.

It's even weirder when I come home. I just get my bags and go home. Straight off the plane.

Australia is doing well but it could definitely be doing better, especially with essential workers travelling interstate.

 

[rocket18]

I'm coming around to Vaders view that we have just been lucky in Australia.

This is just a straight out bungle, it shouldn't be happening this far into the game.

Surely as part of the exemption (which was ridiculous in the 1st place) to get out mandatory quarantine you stipulate when and how the person is to travel into SA.

You will catch the 8:35am Qantas flight from Melb to Adel on the 24/05/2020
You will be met at Adelaide airport
You must have the Covid app installed on a phone
You will be taken to a hotel for quarantine
You will only see your dying relative under strict conditions

Etc Etc.

These are things you don't need to be a rocket surgeon to have in place, not "she'll be right just rock up when you want, we'll put a shrimp on the barbie for ya"

I can see why the start up has been botched (dodgy at best), these people aren't as good at their jobs as we thought. It has been other factors that have "saved" us. Climate, how we live, well spaced out etc.

In hindsight I suppose it was pretty easy to say "everyone stay home" and their job is done. Spurrier wasn't superwoman after all.

 

[jenny61_99]

mistylake

'Incredibly rare' coronavirus cases months after travel raise questions about incubation periods

Two cases of coronavirus — which have emerged months after a woman was on a cruise ship and another had travelled to India — have medical experts scratching their heads at what appears to be an unusually long incubation period.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Vader]

I'm coming around to Vaders view that we have just been lucky in Australia.

I've never said that we "have just been lucky". Australia's success in combating CV-19 has been a combination of good luck and good management.

 

[1970crow]

Wouldn’t have thought it would be that many, you’d have thought someone could have worked it out. Unbelievable

Lucky she made herself known to authorities. But, knowing how tight poms are it was probably because she knew she’d save herself a cab fare.

 

[1970crow]

Do the Vics have some maybe a lot of responsibility here as well. Shouldn't she be in quarantine there as any incoming passenger.

she was.

 

[rocket18]

I've never said that we "have just been lucky". Australia's success in combating CV-19 has been a combination of good luck and good management.

I used to think it was more about how we handled it but with the stuff ups we see around the country I think good luck had a big part to play.

Good management = Everyone stay home.

It wasn't that hard really, as you might say even Slomo couldn't stuff that up.

 

[jackster83]

How's the *up with the livestock ship in WA? Someone needs to lose their job for that one, and not just some lowly pleb public servant who they can use as a scapegoat.

 

[rocket18]

she was.

That right the Vics were keeping her in quarantine ,we let her out on parole, we should have had our ducks in a row.

Funny how Marshall & Spurrier are trying to muddy the waters with throwing the Vics under the bus (normally I love sinking the boots into the Vis) but this is all on us.

We were stupid with the quarantine exemption, we were even stupider that strict measures/procedures were not in place. And now we have at least 19 people under a cloud that shouldn't have been.

Maybe the next quarantine exemption from an overseas visitor Spurrier can drive them back from Victoria herself. She might think twice if she is in the firing line, not other poor schmucks.

 

[1970crow]

That right the Vics were keeping her in quarantine ,we let her out on parole, we should have had our ducks in a row.

Funny how Marshall & Spurrier are trying to muddy the waters with throwing the Vics under the bus (normally I love sinking the boots into the Vis) but this is all on us.

We were stupid with the quarantine exemption, we were even stupider that strict measures/procedures were not in place. And now we have at least 19 people under a cloud that shouldn't have been.

Maybe the next quarantine exemption from an overseas visitor Spurrier can drive them back from Victoria herself. She might think twice if she is in the firing line, not other poor schmucks.

It’s just typical utensil ups from typical public servants who don’t really have a clue about anything that’s not already written down for them. Vic aren’t in the clear here. They were only releasing her from their quarantine b3cause she was transferring to our quarantine. That she was allowed to just walk onto a plane without any advice to us that she was being released from their control is a major * up on their part.

 

[Vader]

I used to think it was more about how we handled it but with the stuff ups we see around the country I think good luck had a big part to play.

Good management = Everyone stay home.

It wasn't that hard really, as you might say even Slomo couldn't stuff that up.

Good management was also tracking new arrivals, testing them regularly, and tracing their close contacts. The Health Depts around the nation did a great job in this regard, particularly considering the number of ex-pat returnees who arrived in March & April.

Good luck was more about the fact that the virus didn't arrive here until 2 days after we started screening incoming Chinese passengers for it, which was almost 2 months after it arrived in Europe and the USA. Our outcome could/would have been very different if it had been circulating widely in the community for months before we even became aware of it, as happened in Europe & the USA.

 

[arrowman]

I used to think it was more about how we handled it but with the stuff ups we see around the country I think good luck had a big part to play.

Roulette is a game of chance.
Poker is a game of skill, with chance playing a role.
Chess is a game of skill.

Australia has been playing poker, having been dealt a pretty good hand.

 

[Geoffa32]

They have been running a 1 size fits all. Golf the prime example and pretty sure it recently came out that comps were only shut down because other sports had to. A standard group of 4 can comfortably remain 5m apart for 18 holes and with 2 simple rule adjustments never touch anything but their own equipment

Golf no......Horse racing yes?


Seems legit, you can bet on it.

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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Can I front the compassion tribunal?

I need to fly back t-

I'm sorry, there's a global pandemic going on. It's just not safe.

Repeat

 

[arrowman]

Can I front the compassion tribunal?

I need to fly back t-

I'm sorry, there's a global pandemic going on. It's just not safe.

Repeat

Good response, appropriate.

I can get that she was allowed in to the country, I can get that she was allowed to transfer out of Vic before completing her quarantine (may not agree with all of that, but I can get it) - I don't get how that transfer was done so sloppily.

Also - one of the replies on a related tweet, in relation to "borders closed" (except for 2 week quarantine):

My family and I visit SA regularly (2-3 times a year from Sydney) for holidays. Let me assure you that 2 weeks quarantine is effectively ‘borders closed’. Looks like we will be off to New Zealand for our next holiday.

Someone who wasn't standing in the line when God was installing the sense of proportion?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Good management was also tracking new arrivals, testing them regularly, and tracing their close contacts. The Health Depts around the nation did a great job in this regard, particularly considering the number of ex-pat returnees who arrived in March & April.

Good luck was more about the fact that the virus didn't arrive here until 2 days after we started screening incoming Chinese passengers for it, which was almost 2 months after it arrived in Europe and the USA. Our outcome could/would have been very different if it had been circulating widely in the community for months before we even became aware of it, as happened in Europe & the USA.

Also good luck it hit us in warmer months, rather than colder months when more people are suffering from other medical conditions.

 

[rocket18]

Also good luck it hit us in warmer months, rather than colder months when more people are suffering from other medical conditions.

Yep imagine if it hit in our winter when our hospitals are already chockers with the normal flu, ambulances ramping, no beds etc.

 

[Vader]

Good response, appropriate.

I can get that she was allowed in to the country, I can get that she was allowed to transfer out of Vic before completing her quarantine (may not agree with all of that, but I can get it) - I don't get how that transfer was done so sloppily.

Also - one of the replies on a related tweet, in relation to "borders closed" (except for 2 week quarantine):

Someone who wasn't standing in the line when God was installing the sense of proportion?

Does the person quoted realise that NZ won't be allowing Australians in until after all of our internal borders have re-opened?

 

[Tex200]

So now SA Health admit they were given flight details of the British citizen. What a giant utensil up and smells more by the day

 

[arrowman]

Does the person quoted realise that NZ won't be allowing Australians in until after all of our internal borders have re-opened?

Haha yes, I forgot to note that bit

 

[GrommoT]

So now SA Health admit they were given flight details of the British citizen. What a giant utensil up and smells more by the day

Before Sunday’s case, 21 other people had come to SA from overseas on compassionate grounds, about half to attend a funeral and the others to visit a dying relative.

The British woman, in her 50s, was granted her exemption to visit a dying relative.

She had spent about a week in quarantine in Victoria after arriving in Australia from the UK and had tested negative while in isolation.

She wore a mask while travelling to SA and made herself known to airport authorities and was then escorted out by police.

When tested again, she returned the positive result, becoming the state’s 440th case of COVID-19 and the first for almost three weeks.

The woman was returned to quarantine while almost 20 close contacts were also ordered into self-isolation.

After initially saying Victorian officials did not tell them when the woman would arrive, Chief Public Health Officer Nicola Spurrier issued a statement on Thursday conceding the flight information was passed on.

“Due to an administrative oversight, we can confirm the relevant flight details involving an overseas traveller arriving in South Australia were provided to SA Health prior to their arrival,” Professor Spurrier said.

“What this issue has highlighted is the need to strengthen the processes involving travellers arriving from overseas and travelling between states during their quarantine period.”

After SA’s initial comments, Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said South Australia was told of the woman’s travel details and he had the email to prove it.

“I’m not sure why there is a misunderstanding about having been informed, but that email was sent and South Australian authorities were alerted about the time and flight details,” Professor Sutton said.

SA to halt overseas arrivals after bungle - Australian Associated Press

SA has called a halt to allowing international arrivals to enter on compassionate grounds after a woman who travelled from the UK tested positive to the virus.

www.aap.com.au

 

[ams4crows]

Administrative oversight..... I feel sorry for whoever's inbox that email is sitting in, they would be copping it right now.

This morning "the bloody Vics didn't tell us"

This afternoon "sorry our bad we didn't see the email"