Which is why borders should stay closed, regardless of Gladys' protestations.
Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.
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However the previous case was at the point of being non-infectious. This one is likely to be infectious and they are concerned she was out and about other than just visiting the person her exemption covered. Exemptions mean that you should be isolating excluding the person you are allowed to visit. Time will tell if this person causes more cases.
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This is bloody sad, and another reason why we never could consider giving covid19 free reign here like Sweden has.
Our indigenous communities with high level of co morbidities.
Our indigenous communities with high level of co morbidities.
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New case in Cairns, ex-Ruby Princess. Hope it hasn’t been bubbling away since they disembarked. Seems a lot longer than the expected “infestation” period.
Sheep ship crew in Perth seems to have been managed by the book but the protocols seem fragile - relying on the Captain to ping DA, then DA to ping WA Health days later once the local pilot (all PPE-ed) is on board.
Listening (mostly on here lol, damn the eastern states parochialism!) with interest to the developing story of SA’s new “mystery guest” :/
And just like that we’re into the “whack-a-mole” phase, with a Birmingham Vs Palaszczuk supporting bout.
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Sheep ship crew in Perth seems to have been managed by the book but the protocols seem fragile - relying on the Captain to ping DA, then DA to ping WA Health days later once the local pilot (all PPE-ed) is on board.
Listening (mostly on here lol, damn the eastern states parochialism!) with interest to the developing story of SA’s new “mystery guest” :/
And just like that we’re into the “whack-a-mole” phase, with a Birmingham Vs Palaszczuk supporting bout.
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Yet another completely inaccurate read on the situation.
Marshall and Spurrier aren't blocking Footballers from flying in like this woman has. Like this woman they'd just have to go into a 2 week quarantine when they arrive.
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Should we allow someone who has just come back from overseas and has only been in quarantine for a week and has not been tested on a flight back to Adelaide? How many are saying yeh, sure?
SA Health need to fess up and tell us what circumstances can possibly allow this. Otherwise it comes across as exactly what I reckon it is, a massive * up and/or cover up. Nicole's Sainthood is on the line.
Should we allow someone who has just come back from overseas and has only been in quarantine for a week and has not been tested on a flight back to Adelaide? How many are saying yeh, sure?
SA Health need to fess up and tell us what circumstances can possibly allow this. Otherwise it comes across as exactly what I reckon it is, a massive * up and/or cover up. Nicole's Sainthood is on the line.
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You could be onto something there. This happened in late April. Kerry Stokes and his wife weren't forced to quarantine in a hotel for 14 days after returning from a ski trip to Aspen. They were allowed to self isolate in their Perth mansion.
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They are saying now. She came from the UK. Lucky they haven't really been hit by Covid19, hey?
Maybe she took the flight to check her eyesight.
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U.S. company trials coronavirus vaccine candidate in Australia
A few quotes:
A U.S. biotechnology company began injecting a coronavirus vaccine candidate into people in Australia on Tuesday with hopes of releasing a proven vaccine this year
About a dozen experimental vaccines against the coronavirus are in early stages of testing or poised to start, mostly in China, the U.S. and Europe. It's not clear that any will prove safe and effective. But many work in different ways, and are made with different technologies, increasing the odds that at least one approach might succeed.
Animal testing suggested the vaccine is effective in low doses. Novavax could manufacture at least 100 million doses this year and 1.5 billion in 2021, he said.
A few quotes:
A U.S. biotechnology company began injecting a coronavirus vaccine candidate into people in Australia on Tuesday with hopes of releasing a proven vaccine this year
About a dozen experimental vaccines against the coronavirus are in early stages of testing or poised to start, mostly in China, the U.S. and Europe. It's not clear that any will prove safe and effective. But many work in different ways, and are made with different technologies, increasing the odds that at least one approach might succeed.
Animal testing suggested the vaccine is effective in low doses. Novavax could manufacture at least 100 million doses this year and 1.5 billion in 2021, he said.
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Everyone in America must be dead, just knew Trump would kill 'em all in the end.
Give to the animals and those damned Aussies. It that works try it on humans.
With the seemingly hundreds of vaccine trials in place at the moment you'd hope one would work.
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It does make you feel optimistic. Results from the first phase of this trial will be known in July. They'll be highly anticipatedEveryone in America must be dead, just knew Trump would kill 'em all in the end.
Give to the animals and those damned Aussies. It that works try it on humans.
With the seemingly hundreds of vaccine trials in place at the moment you'd hope one would work.
I've been told SA Health already have public servants sitting around waiting for cases to trace and haven't had a lot to do, they been thinking about going back to their normal roles. So would be very surprised if they aren't already trolling through flight passenger lists, airport staff rosters etc.
Given the story they're selling about compassionate exception you'd hope they were only approved into SA based on meeting set criteria, e.g. staying quarantined, having the app on at all times, only going out to visit said dying family member etc.
The "significant contacts" comment is concerning, hopefully didn't stop by city, harbour town or Marion Westfield to pick up gifts on the way to family quarantine.
If she deliberately breached the agreed conditions of her exception into SA, I wonder if their could be any legal ramifications.
Hypothetically, let's say someone who knew they were infected went out in breach of self quarantine instructions and infected someone who dies from Covid19.
Does that open them to manslaughter charges similar to someone with HIV sleeping recklessly with multiple partners.
Suspect doesn't apply in this case as they are claiming she was asymptomatic and would claim she didn't know she was infected.
Would also be hard to prove that the victim caught the virus from the alledged person.
Regardless we're in a great position to be bitching about a single case.
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Was going to post the PBS Newshour story I saw last week on the Navajo's but never got around to it. They have less than 1 million people in their nation but their death rate is about 2,000 per million and NY state is about 1,500.
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How are there still people coming and going from overseas? How is there sufficient demand for these flights to even take place?
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Freight has to travel somehow. Cargo has always been a part of revenue earned by airlines. Governments are subsidising flights. People are still trying to get back home. People want to try to see dying loved ones. People with specialist skills are in demand. There are plenty of reasons why people want to, or need to travel.
2 or 3 years ago I read somewhere that there are over 1.25mil people in the skies at any one moment around the world. The virus isn't that dangerous to drive that down to zero, for 24/7.
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So the SA case today had some validity to why the travel was allowed. Female was quarantining in Melbourne after coming from UK, but let out early on compassionate grounds as relative in Adelaide is dying and might not have survived the 14 days. No big deal, it is one person and its fair and reasonable grounds.
But the protocols should have been put in place. Should have been forced to travel with a mask, and gloves to minimize risks by as much as possible on the flight. Then at Adelaide airport should have been met by a "covid guard" with PPE, walked around terminal away from people thru to baggage area to minimise contact, had to have family there to pick her up with PPE, tested at the airport, pick up bags and go to family members house and continue quarantining there as much as possible until got test result back, which they can do in a few hours in normal working hours time, except for when visiting dying relative.
Spurrier said they will review exemptions. That's BS this was an acceptable exemption. It's the protocols that have to be reviewed, just like they are asking all businesses to review their protocols to limit risk of virus being passed on the government has to set out protocols to give to people who get an exemption.
South Australia’s almost three-week streak of zero daily coronavirus cases has ended, after a British woman tested positive to COVID-19 during a sanctioned trip to visit a dying relative in Adelaide. SA Health on Tuesday announced total local virus cases rose to 440, after 18 consecutive days of no reported patients.
The woman in her 50s was tested at Adelaide Airport at the weekend.
Despite having served less than half of her required isolation in a Melbourne hotel after arriving from Britain last week, SA and Victorian authorities authorised her weekend flight to Adelaide on “compassionate” grounds to say goodbye to a dying relative.
But as she remained in a stable condition with mild symptoms in quarantine at an Adelaide hotel on Tuesday, authorities scrambled to trace a “significant” number of “close contacts” including passengers, airline and airport staff as well as other visitors.
SA Health refused to publicly release flight details or provide precise numbers of those in isolation.
Announcing the return of COVID-19 after almost a fortnight, chief public health officer Professor Nicola Spurrier also revealed a review into how a committee grants exemptions and a new crackdown. While her medical advice has not changed, Prof Spurrier said she was happy with easing restrictions but only if people socially distanced, practised good hygiene and were tested for even mild flu-like symptoms.
Defending a delay in announcing the new case, she said the woman posed no public threat after her positive result on Monday. “I know this might come as a surprise to many people because we have had so many days with no cases,” she said. “But it is a very timely reminder to everybody … that COVID-19 is here and we have to continue to be vigilant. This experience now really strengthens our resolve to minimise the number of exemptions. I don’t want to go backwards. There is always a risk involved in any decision.
But the protocols should have been put in place. Should have been forced to travel with a mask, and gloves to minimize risks by as much as possible on the flight. Then at Adelaide airport should have been met by a "covid guard" with PPE, walked around terminal away from people thru to baggage area to minimise contact, had to have family there to pick her up with PPE, tested at the airport, pick up bags and go to family members house and continue quarantining there as much as possible until got test result back, which they can do in a few hours in normal working hours time, except for when visiting dying relative.
Spurrier said they will review exemptions. That's BS this was an acceptable exemption. It's the protocols that have to be reviewed, just like they are asking all businesses to review their protocols to limit risk of virus being passed on the government has to set out protocols to give to people who get an exemption.
South Australia’s almost three-week streak of zero daily coronavirus cases has ended, after a British woman tested positive to COVID-19 during a sanctioned trip to visit a dying relative in Adelaide. SA Health on Tuesday announced total local virus cases rose to 440, after 18 consecutive days of no reported patients.
The woman in her 50s was tested at Adelaide Airport at the weekend.
Despite having served less than half of her required isolation in a Melbourne hotel after arriving from Britain last week, SA and Victorian authorities authorised her weekend flight to Adelaide on “compassionate” grounds to say goodbye to a dying relative.
But as she remained in a stable condition with mild symptoms in quarantine at an Adelaide hotel on Tuesday, authorities scrambled to trace a “significant” number of “close contacts” including passengers, airline and airport staff as well as other visitors.
SA Health refused to publicly release flight details or provide precise numbers of those in isolation.
Announcing the return of COVID-19 after almost a fortnight, chief public health officer Professor Nicola Spurrier also revealed a review into how a committee grants exemptions and a new crackdown. While her medical advice has not changed, Prof Spurrier said she was happy with easing restrictions but only if people socially distanced, practised good hygiene and were tested for even mild flu-like symptoms.
Defending a delay in announcing the new case, she said the woman posed no public threat after her positive result on Monday. “I know this might come as a surprise to many people because we have had so many days with no cases,” she said. “But it is a very timely reminder to everybody … that COVID-19 is here and we have to continue to be vigilant. This experience now really strengthens our resolve to minimise the number of exemptions. I don’t want to go backwards. There is always a risk involved in any decision.
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So the SA case today had some validity to why the travel was allowed. Female was quarantining in Melbourne after coming from UK, but let out early on compassionate grounds as relative in Adelaide is dying and might not have survived the 14 days. No big deal, it is one person and its fair and reasonable grounds.
But the protocols should have been put in place. Should have been forced to travel with a mask, and gloves to minimize risks by as much as possible on the flight. Then at Adelaide airport should have been met by a "covid guard" with PPE, walked around terminal away from people thru to baggage area to minimise contact, had to have family there to pick her up with PPE, tested at the airport, pick up bags and go to family members house and continue quarantining there as much as possible until got test result back, which they can do in a few hours in normal working hours time, except for when visiting dying relative.
Spurrier said they will review exemptions. That's BS this was an acceptable exemption. It's the protocols that have to be reviewed, just like they are asking all businesses to review their protocols to limit risk of virus being passed on the government has to set out protocols to give to people who get an exemption.
South Australia’s almost three-week streak of zero daily coronavirus cases has ended, after a British woman tested positive to COVID-19 during a sanctioned trip to visit a dying relative in Adelaide. SA Health on Tuesday announced total local virus cases rose to 440, after 18 consecutive days of no reported patients.
The woman in her 50s was tested at Adelaide Airport at the weekend.
Despite having served less than half of her required isolation in a Melbourne hotel after arriving from Britain last week, SA and Victorian authorities authorised her weekend flight to Adelaide on “compassionate” grounds to say goodbye to a dying relative.
But as she remained in a stable condition with mild symptoms in quarantine at an Adelaide hotel on Tuesday, authorities scrambled to trace a “significant” number of “close contacts” including passengers, airline and airport staff as well as other visitors.
SA Health refused to publicly release flight details or provide precise numbers of those in isolation.
Announcing the return of COVID-19 after almost a fortnight, chief public health officer Professor Nicola Spurrier also revealed a review into how a committee grants exemptions and a new crackdown. While her medical advice has not changed, Prof Spurrier said she was happy with easing restrictions but only if people socially distanced, practised good hygiene and were tested for even mild flu-like symptoms.
Defending a delay in announcing the new case, she said the woman posed no public threat after her positive result on Monday. “I know this might come as a surprise to many people because we have had so many days with no cases,” she said. “But it is a very timely reminder to everybody … that COVID-19 is here and we have to continue to be vigilant. This experience now really strengthens our resolve to minimise the number of exemptions. I don’t want to go backwards. There is always a risk involved in any decision.
Madam X should have been tested prior to leaving Melbourne and that should have been a condition on her entry into South Australia. How hard would it have been? Spurrier is telling everyone in SA with a sniffle to go get tested and here is someone who has flown in from a world COVID hot spot who is not tested before being let out of quarantine and into SA.
What should have happened is Madam X should have been tested in Victoria and been required to wait for test results if her relative passed away while she was waiting that is sad but no worse than the thousands of people who are passing away with COVID-19 without loved ones at the bedside.
As I posted previously this is a Ruby Princess moment for SA Health as it is something that should not have happened and need not have happened had some commonsense prevailed. It is all very well for Nicola Spurrier to remind us all to be vigilant but those making the decisions also have to be vigilant. This was a * up by SA and Victorian authorities not the public and I find it annoying that the Chief Medical Officer lectures the general public on the need to be vigilant while her Department drops the ball. I suspect that Nicola Spurrier has been around too many politicians for too long and is becoming just as adept at deflecting the flak.
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Dear Nicola,
We can insist that four COVID-19 tested AFL Umpires flying in from Victoria spend 14 days in quarantine yet someone flying in from a world COVID hot spot like the UK is allowed to break quarantine without being tested and in the process make contact with others.
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We can insist that four COVID-19 tested AFL Umpires flying in from Victoria spend 14 days in quarantine yet someone flying in from a world COVID hot spot like the UK is allowed to break quarantine without being tested and in the process make contact with others.
Signed
Confused
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Government still subsides flights to Singapore and a couple of other destinations I understand to assist people still trying to get back. I also understand for example there’s a flight from Bangkok on June 5th to Melbourne via Brisbane but they are a pretty big deal and fairly expensive ( 2000 one way ? )
There’s still plenty of people trapped/stuck overseas. I’ve one friend who thought it would be a good idea to sit out the pandemic in the Philippines thinking it would be back to normal in a couple of months he’s now isolated in a small village unable to travel anywhere thinking it wasn’t such a good idea after all.
My partner a Thai National has never wanted permanent residency in Australia just gets a 3 month visa when she wants to come over here is now here indefinitely after I applied to extend her 3 month visa because I thought Adelaide was a safer place to be than Thailand I’ve been informed the government simply isn’t processing visas at present and she’s on a bridging visa until they are. There’s simply no time frame until that happens and I’ve told her she could easily be stuck here for a year.
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Bloody hell
Way to decimate a population. Wonder is it co morbidities, living standards or cultural practices that are having the biggest impact?
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Yes I am not sure which stage, but one particular later stage of these new vaccine trials is usually where it falls in a big hole. We wait with hope.
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Obviously the umpires need a compassionate reason. Perhaps their eyesight?
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A couple of quotes from a recent MIT study on the subject of the success of clinical trials.
Nearly 14 percent of all drugs in clinical trials eventually win approval from the FDA — a much higher percentage than previously thought, according to a new study from the MIT Sloan School of Management.
Approval rates ranged from a high of 33.4 percent in vaccines for infectious diseases to 3.4 percent for investigational cancer treatments. Previous estimates placed overall success rates, from Phase I through to FDA approval, between 9 and 11 percent.
New MIT Study Puts Clinical Research Success Rate at 14 Percent
Nearly 14 percent of all drugs in clinical trials eventually win approval from the FDA — a much higher percentage than previously thought, according to a new study from the MIT Sloan School of Management.
With so many covid trials either in stage one or about to start stage one, I think there is some real hope.
There was 80 people on that flight from Melbourne. Watch this space I reckon...
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