Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[raptalia]

There hasn't been an active case in ACT for 43 days. For the entire duration of the pandemic, there has only been 1 case of unknown community transmission in the ACT logged on 17 April. There has been precisely zero impact of any NSW cluster on the ACT. There is no rational basis at all for claiming the ACT is a hotspot.

It is about the ability of people to move freely between the ACT and NSW. As soon as you open the border to the ACT the entire dynamic changes and risk increases because the incentive to travel from NSW to the ACT increases.

 

[Forzaport]

It is about the ability of people to move freely between the ACT and NSW. As soon as you open the border to the ACT the entire dynamic changes and risk increases because the incentive to travel from NSW to the ACT increases.

This is an entirely separate issue to labeling the ACT a hot spot. The CHO's comments were made yesterday when the objective reality is that there has been no impact of NSW clusters on the ACT for weeks now, despite the free travel between Canberra and the NSW coast. This should provide assurance that there is negligible risk of virus transmission but bizarrely has been used to claim the opposite.

If the concern is that Canberra Airport will be used as some sort of cheat for people to access Sydney via Canberra and vice versa - there are mechanisms that can very easily be put in place to control for this. SA has a 40 km buffer zone with Victoria, there is no reason why similar zones can't be implemented in and around the ACT.

"I live in metropolitan Sydney, can I drive to Canberra to catch a flight to Adelaide/Brisbane?"

"No."

 

[pastmyprimus]

The latest figures for Victoria are 43 new cases and 9 deaths. New cases continue to head in the right direction.

 

[raptalia]

An interesting article...

What the 1918 and swine flus tell us about how this pandemic ends

Just over 100 years ago, an influenza infected a third of the world's population — but within just three years, the threat of this deadly flu had all but passed. So what changed — and how will the pandemic we're currently living through change?

www.abc.net.au

A vaccine will be a huge step in ending the pandemic but it will not be a magic wand which will end the infection in an instant.

 

[OneGreatClub]

QUOTE="raptalia, post: 66892619, member: 151610"]
An interesting article...

What the 1918 and swine flus tell us about how this pandemic ends

Just over 100 years ago, an influenza infected a third of the world's population — but within just three years, the threat of this deadly flu had all but passed. So what changed — and how will the pandemic we're currently living through change?

www.abc.net.au

A vaccine will be a huge step in ending the pandemic but it will not be a magic wand which will end the infection in an instant.
[/QUOTE]
interesting

 

[Duckimus Prime]

You can't host 85 football teams, Richmond players out on the strippers, get the granny in town and let this happen, disgrace, what appalling lack of judgment.

ScoMo’s emotional plea: ‘Done all I can’

Scott Morrison has made a heartbreaking plea for the Queensland Premier to allow a 26-year-old daughter to attend her father’s funeral today during an emotional radio interview.

www.news.com.au

The reporting on this is so bullshit. There's no double standard between the football executives coming in and this girl. She's in 2 weeks quarantine in Queensland, after that is finished she will be allowed to travel around Queensland freely.

The AFL executives are all in 2 weeks quarantine within the hub in Queensland. Like this girl who couldn't see her dad, they're not allowed to travel around Queensland freely until after they've completed that 2 week period.

The Richmond players out at the strippers have already long completed their quarantine period, so from a Queensland law point of view they can freely travel around the state now. They have some additional restrictions placed on them by the AFL, but not by state governments.

 

[dirty2]

I never get sick.... so I reckon my theory is everyone will die.... and I will be stuck kicking a footy at adelaide oval by my self...

 

[pastmyprimus]

37 new cases and 6 deaths are the latest figures for Victoria. It’s the lowest number of new cases since late June

 

[Eddie Dingle]

The reporting on this is so bullshit. There's no double standard between the football executives coming in and this girl. She's in 2 weeks quarantine in Queensland, after that is finished she will be allowed to travel around Queensland freely.

The AFL executives are all in 2 weeks quarantine within the hub in Queensland. Like this girl who couldn't see her dad, they're not allowed to travel around Queensland freely until after they've completed that 2 week period.

The Richmond players out at the strippers have already long completed their quarantine period, so from a Queensland law point of view they can freely travel around the state now. They have some additional restrictions placed on them by the AFL, but not by state governments.

When the Queensland CHO admits giving exemptions based on the potential financial gain for her state it's not a good look. It stops being about health right about then I reckon.

 

[Forzaport]

When the Queensland CHO admits giving exemptions based on the potential financial gain for her state it's not a good look. It stops being about health right about then I reckon.

Queensland's CHO round table...

 

[Forzaport]

Yet another anti-lockdown article. Take note of the French data on cases vs deaths and their approach to the new wave of cases.

New virus facts ignored by politicians too stubborn to change

Wars, elections and football grand finals show that some of the best leadership decisions arose from admissions that original strategies were flawed and a change of course was necessary.

www.afr.com

 

[raptalia]

Victoria's numbers back to late June level. That is the first 2 sub 40 days since June 26th. A small step but a step forward.

 

[Forzaport]

Even the modellers aren’t happy with how the vic gov is using their model

Opposition puts forward alternative for Melbourne as modeller labels roadmap target 'too stringent' — ABC News

Victoria's Opposition is calling for stage 3 restrictions to be reintroduced in Melbourne as soon as next week, rather than continuing with stage 4 and the current roadmap out of lockdown.

apple.news

In a piece for The Australian newspaper, the professors wrote that many of the assumptions used in the modelling may change in coming weeks.

"Could Melbourne get to fewer than five cases over a fortnight by October 26? Yes, it is possible. But it would be quite a remarkable achievement," they wrote.

"Just as we laud the government for providing clear guidelines based on a September 3 model, we urge the government to keep refining the models, perhaps build in considerations such as aged-care versus community, or rural versus metro, into future modelling."

EDIT: here’s the The Australian article that goes harder at Andrews: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...n/news-story/dcc3522b0053ca9d201ff9789fe6c872

 

[OneGreatClub]

GWS coach Leon Cameron has detonated the selection bombshell of the season.
Foxfooty.com.au can reveal Giants captain Stephen Coniglio has been sensationally omitted from the team to face Melbourne on Saturday night.

He is 15 games into a heavily back-ended seven-year contract worth close to $7 million across its duration.

Well,that worked

 

[_VXV]

I'm still trying to work the f*ck out how szczuk is pronounced shay.

I heard Rolly(?)Sussex the linguist discuss this a couple of weeks ago on 891. The pronunciation stems from her father being a teacher & having students that struggled to say his name correctly. Went with the shay to simplify & it’s just stuck apparently.

 

[raptalia]

Good news- the Astra Zeneca vaccine has been cleared by the NHMA in the UK and the trial is now back on track. The fact that there are currently 18,000 volunteers involved in the trial and it was suspended for a single abnormal symptom speaks well for the credibility of the trial.

 

[raptalia]

Apparently Victoria police arrested 74 people at an anti lock down rally in Melbourne yesterday.

Dramatic arrests caught on camera as anti-lockdown protests happen across Melbourne

Almost 200 people were fined and 74 were arrested in Melbourne today during dramatic rallies as anti-lockdown protesters ramp up their campaign.

www.news.com.au

 

[Capital Power]

Apparently Victoria police arrested 74 people at an anti lock down rally in Melbourne yesterday.

Dramatic arrests caught on camera as anti-lockdown protests happen across Melbourne

Almost 200 people were fined and 74 were arrested in Melbourne today during dramatic rallies as anti-lockdown protesters ramp up their campaign.

www.news.com.au

Ah yes, the old "protest lockdown by getting locked up" trick.

 

[El Zorro]

I knew sz is pronounced shh in polish from famous olympians names, but not how cz and uk are pronounced.

cz is pronounced like ch.

Here is an example (that's my mum's family name by the way).

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Man... hundreds of people at a protest in a city of 5 million. Probably a decent sign you don't speak for the majority hey?

 

[pastmyprimus]

The latest figures for Victoria : 35 new cases and 7 deaths. The 7 and 14 day averages for new cases continue to trend downwards.

 

[OneGreatClub]

An interesting comparison..read the comments.

 

[raptalia]

The active cases in Victoria have dropped by about 100 a day over the past week. If they can keep decreasing at a similar rate active cases in Victoria will have halved over the next week.

The positive case numbers average around 54 per day for the past fourteen days. On those numbers Victoria is well on track to go to Step2 on September 28 as planned. Andrews has intimated that if the magic 30-40 average is attained over a 14 day period it could be earlier than originally planned.

New South Wales reported only a single local case today and today's national figures stand at just 36 locally acquired cases of which 35 were in Victoria. Of course these are Sunday figures so tomorrow may see a rise. If so hopefully that rise is minimal. Overall the national figures are starting too look like those of late June.

It goes without saying that 8 deaths a day in Victoria over the past week is 8 too many.

 

[raptalia]

An interesting comparison..read the comments.

Is it a cultural thing or does Spain have different travel restrictions to New York?

 

[backtozero]

It goes without saying that 8 deaths a day in Victoria over the past week is 8 too many.

I've got some bad news for you if you think you can stop 80+ year olds from dying.