Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 3.

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Here is a Cambridge University risk assessment for the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
Best to go to the plots at the bottom of the page first b4 reading the details. In Oz I think we would be classified as " low exposure", so that is the relevant plot.
Contrary to the recommendation that over 50s only should be taking AZ, this assessment seems to indicate over 30s get benefits.

Winton Centre Cambridge

Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication

wintoncentre.maths.cam.ac.uk

 

[Doctor Feel]

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Lol imagine thinking labour would sort anything out.

Niether of the dysfunctional major parties will do fu** all effectively.

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

At the moment professionals are suggesting a low platelet count is associated with AZ vaccine clotting deaths.

I am not quite understanding this.

My understanding is that platelets are a major facilitator of clotting, so I might expect the opposite conclusion to be drawn ie high platelets = greater risk

So how is the inverse drawn? Understood that this is a very atypical clotting, so the mechanism of clotting must be different. But why associate it with low platelets?

 

[Interstater]

At the moment professionals are suggesting a low platelet count is associated with AZ vaccine clotting deaths.

I am not quite understanding this.

My understanding is that platelets are a major facilitator of clotting, so I might expect the opposite conclusion to be drawn ie high platelets = greater risk

So how is the inverse drawn? Understood that this is a very atypical clotting, so the mechanism of clotting must be different. But why associate it with low platelets?

AstraZeneca blood clotting: what is this rare syndrome and how is it caused? | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Platelets are cells that usually help to stop bleeding by clumping together to form a blood clot. In AstraZeneca vaccine recipients affected by this rare clotting syndrome, the number of platelets drops. A unique immune system reaction occurs involving the remaining platelets and white blood cells, and it is this reaction that makes the blood more clumpy, leading to clotting.

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

(eg Pfizer) vaccines and pregnant mothers/ newborn

Study shows COVID-19 vaccinated mothers pass antibodies to newborns

Pregnant women show robust immune response to COVID vaccines, pass antibodies to newborns.

news.harvard.edu

 

[OneGreatClub]

At the moment professionals are suggesting a low platelet count is associated with AZ vaccine clotting deaths.

I am not quite understanding this.

My understanding is that platelets are a major facilitator of clotting, so I might expect the opposite conclusion to be drawn ie high platelets = greater risk

So how is the inverse drawn? Understood that this is a very atypical clotting, so the mechanism of clotting must be different. But why associate it with low platelets?

The immune system attacks the platelets

 

[OneGreatClub]

It’s similar to
This

Heparin-induced thrombocytopenia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Doctor Feel]

(eg Pfizer) vaccines and pregnant mothers/ newborn

Study shows COVID-19 vaccinated mothers pass antibodies to newborns

Pregnant women show robust immune response to COVID vaccines, pass antibodies to newborns.

news.harvard.edu

Could be promising when talking about long term management.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[raptalia]

Yesterday India recorded 275,306 new COVID cases. No health system in the world is going to cope with that level of daily infections over a sustained period. What is really concerning is that new and highly contagious variants are being detected in India. Lock downs in places like India and Brazil are contentious because when they lock down many of the poor risk dying of starvation.

On the other side of the COVID spectrum, yesterday the UK got below the 2,000 daily infections for the first time in many months. On January 8th the UK recorded 67,928 daily cases with 1,327 deaths but by yesterday they had reduced that to 1,882 new cases with 10 deaths. A long term lock down and border restrictions coupled with an effective vaccination programme appears to have had dramatic effect. You would think that other world leaders would take note.

 

[raptalia]

I watched our Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack on TV this morning and this guy really is a typical politician. He treats the Australian public like we are all stupid. It is as if he thinks he can say anything and we will all sit back in awe and tell ourselves, 'gee we are lucky to have this Government looking after us'.

The fact that Australia is in a COVID safe bubble is probably more down to sound management by the states than the Federal Government. It is the States that have carried the can with lockdowns, hotel quarantine and now it looks like the vaccination roll out- not the Commonwealth. Managing the epidemic in nursing homes and rolling out the vaccine has been a giagantic fail on the part of the Commonwealth.

When asked about the slow vaccine rollout in Australia McCormack quickly reverted to how lucky we are to be living in Australia. We all know that for crissake Michael how about telling us what your Government is doing to get more jabs in peoples' arms you burk? When pressed further Mc Cormack launched into more hyperbole about how we had secured 20 million doses of Pfitzer vaccine. They might be on order Michael but you have not actually got them yet and there are no guarantees you will get them by the end of 2021. You might also have mentioned that Australia did not place it's initial order for Pfitzer until November while countries like Singapore ordered theirs in August.

This guy makes Scott Morrison look like an Einstein and this interview confirmed the well held belief that this Government is clutching at straws and looking for something to tell the Australian public.

As for Morrison he thinks holding a National Cabinet meeting twice a week to achieve nothing is better than a once weekly meeting that achieves nothing.

We are due a Federal election next year and I am struggling to find some one to vote for.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[snozulu]

Had the second jab on friday and it knocked me around a bit for a couple of days

 

[raptalia]

That NZ bubble is looking shaky a day in. I guess it is wait and see for a day or two.

Jacinda Ardern doesn't expect Auckland COVID case to affect trans-Tasman travel bubble

Australian and New Zealand officials have been communicating and the case is not expected to shut down the current travel arrangement between the two countries.

www.abc.net.au

 

[PAFC66]

Had the second jab on friday and it knocked me around a bit for a couple of days

Yeah it's potent. Normal though. Every second nurse and doctor I work with has taken a day off afterwards after the second Pfizer jab.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Yeah it's potent. Normal though. Every second nurse and doctor I work with has taken a day off afterwards after the second Pfizer jab.

When do the mopboys get their jab?