Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 3.

[backtozero]

People like to potshot the public sector, and yeah there's surely a bunch of useless pencil pushers and bureaucrats in there, but the bulk of that 22% is made up of frontline staff like nurses, teachers and police.

ACAB

 

[Chewy316]

Lol how the hell is Aus to India, India to Aus - for a wedding, essential travel?

It's ridiculous. One of my best mates is chief of staff for a state MP in SA and they said there would be riots if people knew publicly what special exemptions were granted for overseas travel. It is truly absurd.

Birthdays and weddings simply should not cross that exemption barrier.

 

[TeeKray]

I don't think Rick was trying to diminish the entire public sector or the work many government employees do. It's more about the difference between running or working for small business where profit generation is everything and the difference between getting paid or being out of work vs working for government where doing your job is all that matters and a pay cheque is guaranteed.

For the record, I've been a public servant and a small business owner so the difference in mentality is clear to me.

 

[FishingRick04]

I don't think Rick was trying to diminish the entire public sector or the work many government employees do. It's more about the difference between running or working for small business where profit generation is everything and the difference between getting paid or being out of work vs working for government where doing your job is all that matters and a pay cheque is guaranteed.

For the record, I've been a public servant (not a front line worker either) and a small business owner so the difference in mentality is clear to me.

pretty much, even then for a lot of the rank and file the attitude is, make a profit but not too much of a profit.

 

[davesnothere]

Looks like someone in Perth ate at a different restaurant every night between the 17-21st he or she also had lunch on the 18th.

The locations added after the latest positive case -

Morley: Kung Fu Kitchen (restaurant), 129 Russell Street	April 21, 2021	5:00pm – 7:00pm
Northbridge: City China Garden (restaurant)	April 20, 2021	5:00pm – 8:00pm
Northbridge: Good Fortune Roast Duck House (restaurant)	April 19, 2021	5:00pm – 8:00pm
Northbridge: Fortune Five Chinese Restaurant	April 18, 2021	5:30pm – 7:00pm
Kardinya: Kitchen Inn (restaurant) 19/17-23 South Street	April 18, 2021	12:00pm – 2:00pm
East Victoria Park: Anything La Corner (restaurant), U5-6/910 Albany Highway	April 17, 2021	5:30pm – 8:00pm

This bit is a timely reminder..

Health Minister Roger Cook said one of the factors that had made tracing easier was that the infected woman had been using the SafeWA app.

I use the SA app every time I can but there are plenty who don't, particularly at the local Woolies.

Anzac Day commemorated in driveways in Perth amid city-wide lockdown

Residents of Perth and Peel hold their Anzac Day dawn services on their driveways again this year, on the second day of a city-wide lockdown.

www.abc.net.au

Uber eats delivery driver?

 

[charcolechaddy]

pretty much, even then for a lot of the rank and file the attitude is, make a profit but not too much of a profit.

Come work in the science sector or health.

You would get a bloody shock.

 

[FishingRick04]

Come work in the science sector or health.

You would get a bloody shock.

mid assume not profit related or cost focused

anyway point is, these economic stoppages will only benefit the mega corporations which will inturn be at the detriment of the consumer when there’s less competition

 

[pastmyprimus]

The latest lockdown in Perth makes it more obvious to move hotel quarantine out of the cities. One current risk is that covid free people can contract the virus while in hotel quarantine and some of the blame lies with the ventilation systems. Not surprising as these systems aren't hospital grade (and not expected to be). Spread of the virus this way wouldn't be an issue at Howard Springs. No inter-connected ventilation systems, and residents have access to fresh air. Each room has a private balcony.

NT recorded record 10 new cases yesterday, taking the total count to 48. There's lower risk of tranmission amongst returned travellers compared to city hotel quarantine programs, and little risk of any of infected residents reaching Darwin.

More lockdowns in cities, whether city wide or targeted, are almost enivitable with city based hotel quarantine but there doesn't seem to be much mood for change amongst the federal and state governments.

 

[Relativity]

mid assume not profit related or cost focused

anyway point is, these economic stoppages will only benefit the mega corporations which will inturn be at the detriment of the consumer when there’s less competition

I don't think Amazon are too fussed by lock downs.

 

[PAFC66]

Easy for you to say with you’re guaranteed 52 weeks income for 6 weeks work a year.

Scomo should really get those vaccines going and we wouldn't need to be in this position.

 

[PAFC66]

The latest lockdown in Perth makes it more obvious to move hotel quarantine out of the cities. One current risk is that covid free people can contract the virus while in hotel quarantine and some of the blame lies with the ventilation systems. Not surprising as these systems aren't hospital grade (and not expected to be). Spread of the virus this way wouldn't be an issue at Howard Springs. No inter-connected ventilation systems, and residents have access to fresh air. Each room has a private balcony.

NT recorded record 10 new cases yesterday, taking the total count to 48. There's lower risk of tranmission amongst returned travellers compared to city hotel quarantine programs, and little risk of any of infected residents reaching Darwin.

More lockdowns in cities, whether city wide or targeted, are almost enivitable with city based hotel quarantine but there doesn't seem to be much mood for change amongst the federal and state governments.

It's been obvious for a year

 

[TeeKray]

The latest lockdown in Perth makes it more obvious to move hotel quarantine out of the cities. One current risk is that covid free people can contract the virus while in hotel quarantine and some of the blame lies with the ventilation systems. Not surprising as these systems aren't hospital grade (and not expected to be). Spread of the virus this way wouldn't be an issue at Howard Springs. No inter-connected ventilation systems, and residents have access to fresh air. Each room has a private balcony.

NT recorded record 10 new cases yesterday, taking the total count to 48. There's lower risk of tranmission amongst returned travellers compared to city hotel quarantine programs, and little risk of any of infected residents reaching Darwin.

More lockdowns in cities, whether city wide or targeted, are almost enivitable with city based hotel quarantine but there doesn't seem to be much mood for change amongst the federal and state governments.

McGowan launched into the Federal government over this exact point yesterday and said they have many facilities that would be more suitable than hotel quarantine.

I think the elephant in the room needs to be addressed as well. This returned traveller from a wedding fiasco has exposed once and for all the myth that all of the people returning are just poor Aussies stranded overseas that just want to come home and haven't been able to find a flight yet. I know stories from within my own circles of people coming and going for what essentially amount to holidays. The whole system needs to be tightened up. Returning travellers (and by that I mean returning, not coming back for a holiday and then leaving again a few weeks later) and actual essential travel.

 

[sobrave]

mid assume not profit related or cost focused

anyway point is, these economic stoppages will only benefit the mega corporations which will inturn be at the detriment of the consumer when there’s less competition

So what you're saying is, we need to smash capitalism. Couldn't agree more.

 

[FishingRick04]

I don't think Amazon are too fussed by lock downs.

that is my whole point

 

[StrappingTape]

pretty much, even then for a lot of the rank and file the attitude is, make a profit but not too much of a profit.

It's not even that, it's the complete disconnect on the effect of their decisions for lockdowns etc on everyone else. They are completely unaffected financially by it, we are all in this together is and has always been simply not true. That's been the worst part about the Corona response is the decision makers have no real world impact to themselves or anyone in their sphere and then lack any understanding why people were/are losing their s**t. Our rushed lock down was just after pubs\clubs\entertainment venues were able to open again, most on their last legs and then they were hit a week after being able to trade again with another snap lockdown etc.

It's also impossible to square one vaccination death is OK but one COVID one is not with these types of responses now.

 

[Relativity]

that is my whole point

I know. I was agreeing with you.

 

[FishingRick04]

So what you're saying is, we need to smash capitalism. Couldn't agree more.

That’s an extreme take of my opinion.
What would you rather? Totalitarian dictatorship? Socialist equality?

we live in probably the most socialistic democracyon the planet ImO

 

[StrappingTape]

I don't think Amazon are too fussed by lock downs.

Well neither were the big chains here either, the virus only was dangerous to customers in small businesses for some magical reason last year.

 

[sobrave]

That’s an extreme take of my opinion.
What would you rather? Totalitarian dictatorship? Socialist equality?

we live in probably the most socialistic democracyon the planet ImO

Really? Norway? Sweden? Germany? Finland?

I love that whenever it's mentioned that late stage capitalism is kinda s**t, totalitarianism is put up as the only possible alternative...

 

[Relativity]

Well neither were the big chains here either, the virus only was dangerous to customers in small businesses for some magical reason last year.

It wouldn't have anything to do with Coles and Woolies being a couple of the bigger donators to both political parties either.

 

[StrappingTape]

Really? Norway? Sweden? Germany? Finland?

I love that whenever it's mentioned that late stage capitalism is kinda sh*t, totalitarianism is put up as the only possible alternative...

Totalitarianism is what you want though. No dissent, everyone agrees is your basic argument in all of these threads. So that's why you keep getting the reply because you keep talking about that's what you want instead even if you don't realise it or mean it, it's how it comes across.

 

[StrappingTape]

It wouldn't have anything to do with Coles and Woolies being a couple of the bigger donators to both political parties either.

That + Myer and DJs etc being open but the clothes shop next door TOO DANGEROUS. McDonalds is fine but the food court? SHUT IT DOWN

 

[backtozero]

Really? Norway? Sweden? Germany? Finland?

I love that whenever it's mentioned that late stage capitalism is kinda sh*t, totalitarianism is put up as the only possible alternative...

All of those countries are capitalist.

 

[FishingRick04]

Really? Norway? Sweden? Germany? Finland?

I love that whenever it's mentioned that late stage capitalism is kinda sh*t, totalitarianism is put up as the only possible alternative...

pretty sure I put up another option, I love how people read comments but only read what they want to read!

I guess China’s model is most prevalent and realistically the most likely to evolve into. Unless something dramatic happens, so frequently used.

 

[StrappingTape]

All of those countries are capitalist.

but but Germany spawned Antifa so it... it can't be!?