Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I was saying to someone

If you dont want to wear a mask, just carry around a microphone. If someone asks where your mask is say “Dont worry, I’m about to have a press conference, I don’t need it”

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Lol... a "muzzle". The only clown here mate is the one who cannot bare to put a bit of cloth on his face for a few minutes while he grabs some milk and eggs.

It doesn't piss me off at all. It just surprises me how pathetic you choose to be.

LOL doesn't piss you off but here you are blowing a fuse hahahahahahahahaha flog.

 

[Steele13]

Lol... a "muzzle". The only clown here mate is the one who cannot bare to put a bit of cloth on his face for a few minutes while he grabs some milk and eggs.

It doesn't piss me off at all. It just surprises me how pathetic you choose to be.

You're really missing the point. I'm not afraid to wear a mask, I do often when I'm doing particularly dusty jobs like mowing or blowing. It's more the stupidity of the rule. Can you honestly tell me, making millions of people wear masks, because of 1 case even hundreds of kilometres away from the source, isn't just a little bit silly? Pointless even? People across the river from me have never had to wear them. They seem to be getting by ok. If you think that it's a reasonable response, then I can only assume that you are a subservient, submissive ponce.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Pretty much everything we're dealing with right now, Be compliant or else.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Lol... a "muzzle". The only clown here mate is the one who cannot bare to put a bit of cloth on his face for a few minutes while he grabs some milk and eggs.

It doesn't piss me off at all. It just surprises me how pathetic you choose to be.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

So glad she is being safe and healthy while she consumes her white bread & chips.

 

[BlueE]

Trust the experts! (Not him, he's a contrarian shill)

And don't trust the most highly qualified Emeritus Professor of immunology and a vaccine specialist, who's developed his own vaccine, when he says reliance o current vaccines are not the way forward out of COVID because of safety and efficacy problems. Instead meta analysis of hundreds of peer reviewed research, shows safe and effective therapeutics will reduce effects and deaths and by 80%, when given early.

Prof Clancy says the data is overwhelmingly in support of using IVM and HCQ in early treatment of COVID, and anyone that says it's not, either don't know the data or doesn't understand it.

Liam Bartlett asked him why the Australia's Chief Medical Officer, Paul Kelly, is saying that there is not evidence HCQ or IVM should be used. He answers he doesn't know and is happy to talk to him about the evidence. Then suggests the influence of "Big Pharma" in Chief Health Officer's making decisions against HCQ and IVM.

Professor Robert Clancy responds to Craig Kelly's comments - 6PR Mornings - Omny.fm

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COVID-19: A realistic approach to community management - Quadrant

This not the time for those who should know better to publicly argue for one or other COVID-19 vaccine, not when full and adequate evidence for any such choice is well down the line. What the current moment most definitely does demand is early treatment, especially for the aged and most...

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[ghostbat12]

I mean do you wear a mask and practice good hygiene? If so that’s enough to protect you so let’s get those cars/people back on the road

In any case What a disgusting attitude People are responsible for others getting a virus with passing it on you say. People are also responsible when they drive badly and hit another unexpecting victim too. In the last month we had 2 parents run down by a alcoholic with nothing they could do in Sydney, a 1 year old run over in her driveway in Victoria and a entire family in Victoria killed when someone going 40km over the speed limit dieng but hey they should have protected themselves and it’s their own fault for not doing so?

The idea the other person in the car accepted the risk and it’s their own fault if they don’t do anything to mitigate it is sh*t
Shows you only care about a issue when it affects you too.

What are you talking about? You keep using cars as analogy when it’s not same thing at all. I think you place way too much weight to your personal opinion. Go and talk to some doctors. Lucky I know a few. Quiet a few.

People are dying and a significant those that have not died will have ongoing issues for a long time, with no guarantee it will get better.

At some stage everyone needs to grow up. It’s not just a matter of getting it and then you are ok. You have to survive and have significant chance of long term issues which might be ok, but when you start getting into your 60s, it can severely affect your quality of life and shorten the lifespan.

If you get it, survive but had complications, don’t expect your life span to ultimately be to 80 or whatever it is today.

That’s reality. Be informed. And now you have been.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Time for these so called leaders to do what their role is & lead by example, Take the jab first.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Vaccine Minister Nadhim Zahawi said yesterday, that folks who haven’t taken up the offer of a vaccine, could get a knock on the door from council staff to “persuade” them to have it. He told MPs that he wanted to use local authority’s to find those who had refused the jab and determine what might then convince them. If that sounds sinister, it’s because it is. Very.

https://richieallen.co.uk/refuse-a-vaccine-youre-likely-to-be-visited-by-a-persuader/

I never seen such an obsession, All of these health officials & polies who're so keen to get everyone vaccinated.

Threatening people to take something there is no need for.

It's so safe, They need to persuade/bribe everyone into taking the jab .

 

[Lethal Knights]

Most victims of Spanish Flu died of bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. This was noted from a review of 118 key autopsy series reports from the time, representing 8,398 individual autopsies conducted in 15 countries. Also, NIAID co-author and pathologist Jeffery Taubenberger, M.D., Ph.D., examined lung tissue samples from 58 soldiers who died of influenza at various U. S. military bases in 1918 and 1919.

The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs. You have to wonder whether wearing masks contributed to that secondary bacterial infection that caused most deaths. Fauci was a co-author of the study and maybe this knowledge was behind his initial recommendation that masks should not be used for COVID.

The one important medical intervention would have been antibiotics, because once bacterial pneumonia occurred, this would have been a death sentence for most without it. But this is not useful with just a virus.

You're badly mistaken with decades of scientific knowledge being put to use, as this knowledge of safe and effective therapeutics was brushed aside with the influence of big pharma with their main goal of peddling influence and making money.

You also make incorrect assumptions, possibly encouraged by the criminally wrong projections of Neil Ferguson's Imperial College, that COVID is as deadly as Spanish flu.

Sweden which didn't have hard lockdowns, school closures or any protections for it's aged care, has the same death per 100,000 of population on average as the last 7 -10 years and half that of Spanish flu.

Note that the worse case of deaths per 100,000 ever in Sweden is dysentery. As we've discussed here a few times there are still 1.4 million deaths in the world today from diarrhea type illnesses, with around 400,000 of those being children under 5.

SO around the same as COVID deaths and hundreds of thousands more children dying. Are we putting billions into preventing that with clean water and sanitation? No because the media and big pharma narrative is telling us to be fearful of something that is just as deadly as a bad flu and with deaths in the same age range, mostly people aver 84. And in the meantime the incalculable other damages and deaths because of lockdown are being ignored.

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Yes. They don’t want to talk about Sweden anymore.
And people aren’t interested in saving 100s of 1000s of kids bc simply their own health isn’t threatened by it.

I keep showing the Swedish stats to friends....it doesn’t matter, their response is that lockdowns seem to work here in Aus so therefore they are the right thing to do and keep us safe.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What are you talking about? You keep using cars as analogy when it’s not same thing at all. I think you place way too much weight to your personal opinion. Go and talk to some doctors. Lucky I know a few. Quiet a few.

People are dying and a significant those that have not died will have ongoing issues for a long time, with no guarantee it will get better.

At some stage everyone needs to grow up. It’s not just a matter of getting it and then you are ok. You have to survive and have significant chance of long term issues which might be ok, but when you start getting into your 60s, it can severely affect your quality of life and shorten the lifespan.

If you get it, survive but had complications, don’t expect your life span to ultimately be to 80 or whatever it is today.

That’s reality. Be informed. And now you have been.

LOL at moving the goal posts because you are losing the argument

At some stage everyone does need to grow up. They need to take responsibility for their own actions rather then expect others to protect them. If you want to stay safe, not get sick, the power should be in your hands. That’s what adults do. They make a decision and then take responsibility for it. If you want to be healthy, be healthy. Take vitamins, eat well, exercise, and take the precautions that YOU want

What I don’t agree with is asking others to live to your demands and make decisions that only suit your wants and needs. A part of grown up decisions is living life how you choose and accepting others way of life. Im not hanging shit on your decision to wear a mask. Do what you like. Just be mature and realise if you protect yourself what I do doesn’t matter

If you can’t take responsibility for your own health and your own decisions, then I feel sorry for you. Id hate to live a life where I blamed others for my circumstance

 

[Steele13]

What are you talking about? You keep using cars as analogy when it’s not same thing at all. I think you place way too much weight to your personal opinion. Go and talk to some doctors. Lucky I know a few. Quiet a few.

People are dying and a significant those that have not died will have ongoing issues for a long time, with no guarantee it will get better.

At some stage everyone needs to grow up. It’s not just a matter of getting it and then you are ok. You have to survive and have significant chance of long term issues which might be ok, but when you start getting into your 60s, it can severely affect your quality of life and shorten the lifespan.

If you get it, survive but had complications, don’t expect your life span to ultimately be to 80 or whatever it is today.

That’s reality. Be informed. And now you have been.

You might be pursuing the only sensible argument from the restriction lovers side of things. It's a new virus, we don't know much about it or the long term impacts, and how many of those who have had it are suffering. Do you have any sources, because outside the usual fear extravaganza from the media, i've come up with nought. But, if the argument is we don't know the long term impacts, or there is long term impacts for some, then my logical counterpoint is, we don't know the long term impacts of all the restrictions either. I mean, nothing like this has ever been done before on such a large scale. I think it will take at least a decade before we see the damage done. I don't think it will be pretty, but of course I could be wrong.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[giggler99]

Riddle with the virus?? fmd some people have been so brainwashed by the political and media fearmongering, it's not even funny anymore just sad. Poor souls.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

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Time for these so called leaders to do what their role is & lead by example, Take the jab first.

Just say no. They can't force you to have it. Just like the masks and so on, how many people will have it not because they believe it will be effective but just because of some deluded notion that it will allow us to 'get back to normal'?

The only way we stop all this nonsense is if we stop complying.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

Riddle with the virus?? fmd some people have been so brainwashed by the political and media fearmongering, it's not even funny anymore just sad. Poor souls.

 

[ioppolo]

I can't see which percentage is what answer

 

[ioppolo]

Just say no. They can't force you to have it. Just like the masks and so on, how many people will have it not because they believe it will be effective but just because of some deluded notion that it will allow us to 'get back to normal'.

The only way we stop all this nonsense is if we stop complying.

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For now. Watch some things like legislation get changed to suit the next stage.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

I can't see which percentage is what answer

 

[ioppolo]

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That's good to see, but two things.

328 people is not a lot
And if people are following this guy, chances are it's because he goes against the grain like yourself.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

For now. Watch some things like legislation get changed to suit the next stage.

That's why it's important to not give in. It may not help but if we just cave we have no hope.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

This is why people need to start pushing back against these stupid idiotic over the top crazy policies and stop complying.

"In Western Australia this week firefighters were made to wear surgical masks to guard against COVID-19 while they fought devastating bushfires; the number of firefighters in each truck cabin was reduced, too, to enable social distancing as they bravely protected life and property 40km from Perth’s solitary coronavirus infection. There could hardly be a more powerful demonstration of warped priorities when it comes to relative risks, immediate threats, and proportionate responses."