Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[GuzzLG]

Worrying sign from world’s leading vaccination nation

It has become the star of the vaccination world. Before Australia has put a single jab in a single arm, Israel has already managed to administer 45 per cent of its population with at least one vaccination vial.

www.news.com.au

Narrative is so flipping obvious.

Not enough people willing to voluntarily take the experimental rushed vaccine/gene altering jab to reach herd immunity so once it plateaus at like 40% or so of the suckers in the population, they will need to implement a total surveillance state to track everywhere everyone goes to be able to enforce the rules about no jab no entry and ultimately will result in no jab means no ability to enter a shop to buy food to not starve to death... but it won’t be mandatory.

For your own health of course.

 

[BlueE]

 

[MarcMaverick]

Lolsboes! "Dozens of police" go to close a gym that's obviously not suppose to be open. Gee, it's lucky that many wallopers were there to catch the real crooks. On Dan, ya lying, fat f**k-head; good use of your goon squad

Well those patrons should have whacked those dumbbell "police" with actual dumbbells and say "well if we can't use a punching bag your bodies will do".

Seriously The real crook is **** you dandemic

 

[BlueE]

So you think we have public health officials, employed by the government, that are secretly on the take by some amorphous 'big pharma' syndicate and giving overly cautious health advice because one day that will lead people to take a vaccine?

If so, I'd be interested in any evidence you have.

Pharma joins Gates Foundation, international governments in $1B outbreak prep group

Top drugmakers have joined with governments and nonprofits around the world to launch an alliance that’ll take a proactive approach to potential deadly outbreaks. | Top drugmakers have joined with governments and nonprofits around the world to launch an alliance that’ll take a proactive approach...

www.fiercepharma.com

From Jan 2017.

Top drugmakers have joined with governments and nonprofits around the world to launch an alliance that’ll take a proactive approach to potential deadly outbreaks.

Dubbed the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), the group has netted $460 million in funding with the aim to initially focus on the MERS-CoV, Lassa and Nipah viruses.

GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, Sanofi and Takeda signed on to support the group, according to a release, in conjunction with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust and the governments of Germany, Japan and Norway.

The coalition is designed to be an “insurance policy against epidemics,” according to the announcement, and will conduct work on vaccines against deadly viruses before an outbreak.

Not only has does the ******, enter into a global health project framework agreement with the Moderna since Jan 2016, to advance mRNA-based development projects for various infectious diseases worth up to a billion dollars in exchange for licenses, The Gates Foundation has given multi-million dollar grants to Pfizer for research purposes and Bill Gates allegedly owns stock in the company.

 

[BlueE]

Yes, it was rushed through without clinical trials.
Fortunately the current vaccines are undergoing more testing and have far more $$$ and effort placed upon them given the gravity of the global pandemic.

But that's the point, these vaccines have been rushed through without finishing clinical trials with the Phase 3 trials being reported in January 2023. We're not in an emergency with hundreds or thousands of people dying, and have safe and effective therapeutics that have better safety and efficacy than the vaccines. Many countries around the world, including USA, South Arica, Switzerland, India, have not approved or banned the Oxford AZ vaccines, and many more (including Spain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Norway) have not recommended it for over 55s or over 65s.

Even Australia have said "The regulator says the decision to immunise those aged over 65 should be made on a case-by-case basis. It says there are no safety concerns for people aged over 65, but there is not enough data to determine the efficacy for people in that age group."

So there is not enough data, to determine efficacy and many safety concerns with deaths and serious adverse effects from countries who started using it, so TGA say the decision should be on a case to case basis! But the average age of COVID deaths in Australia is 85 and most had serious pre existing conditions? So these people should not be taking the vaccine and no one else is dying from it, so why should they be taking it when it doesn't prevent getting or passing on SARS CoV 2?

Maybe the health authorities should listen to the experts, and punters taking note of what happened with swine flu in 2009 and earlier in 1976 in the US (both posted in videos on here) and the only reason experimental vaccinations causing damages stopped was that the pharmaceutical companies were not indemnified. Now they are!

COVID-19: A realistic approach to community management - Quadrant

This not the time for those who should know better to publicly argue for one or other COVID-19 vaccine, not when full and adequate evidence for any such choice is well down the line. What the current moment most definitely does demand is early treatment, especially for the aged and most...

quadrant.org.au

 

[Crankitup]

 

[BlueE]

 

[Crankitup]

Here's his website.

The ignorant are the most dangerous people

www.john8.net

 

[Crankitup]

 

[Fwoy]

 

[mouncey2franklin]

I don't trust political leaders, but I do trust an epidemiologist who has dedicated their life to the study of infectious diseases.

What are your thoughts on the guy who invented PCR tests?

 

[Lethal Knights]

Worrying sign from world’s leading vaccination nation

It has become the star of the vaccination world. Before Australia has put a single jab in a single arm, Israel has already managed to administer 45 per cent of its population with at least one vaccination vial.

www.news.com.au

Narrative is so f*n obvious.

Not enough people willing to voluntarily take the experimental rushed vaccine/gene altering jab to reach herd immunity so once it plateaus at like 40% or so of the suckers in the population, they will need to implement a total surveillance state to track everywhere everyone goes to be able to enforce the rules about no jab no entry and ultimately will result in no jab means no ability to enter a shop to buy food to not starve to death... but it won’t be mandatory.

For your own health of course.

Certainly seems the way the UK is going. And in case there was any doubt about where the narrative comes from:

Here’s the latest from the war criminal Tony Blair Institute (how many millions does Gates fund him with again?)



And people still refuse to see where the powers that be are trying to head.

How easily do they dismiss ‘Individual
Liberties’ in the name of the greater good.
It’s even A FACT OF LIFE!! - no point arguing.

Arrggghhhh...FFS cmon people wake the hell up.

 

[burge13]

Lockdowns in victoria worked /s

No cases today. It would have been 38,975,729,775,519 cases if they didnt shut everything!

 

[GuzzLG]

 

[Fwoy]

Certainly seems the way the UK is going. And in case there was any doubt about where the narrative comes from:

Here’s the latest from the war criminal Tony Blair Institute (how many millions does Gates fund him with again?)

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And people still refuse to see where the powers that be are trying to head.

How easily do they dismiss ‘Individual
Liberties’ in the name of the greater good.
It’s even A FACT OF LIFE!! - no point arguing.

Arrggghhhh...FFS cmon people wake the hell up.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

 

[Run n Spread]

Certainly seems the way the UK is going. And in case there was any doubt about where the narrative comes from:

Here’s the latest from the war criminal Tony Blair Institute (how many millions does Gates fund him with again?)

View attachment 1059550

And people still refuse to see where the powers that be are trying to head.

How easily do they dismiss ‘Individual
Liberties’ in the name of the greater good.
It’s even A FACT OF LIFE!! - no point arguing.

Arrggghhhh...FFS cmon people wake the hell up.

Sneaky bastards. See how the narrative has changed.
It's now we have to lockdown if we get a case..........this is our only hope of avoiding lockdowns.
Other policy options have just been chucked out the window. Still no proof lockdowns work

 

[Run n Spread]

Lockdowns in victoria worked /s

No cases today. It would have been 38,975,729,775,519 cases if they didnt shut everything!

Bear with me but the whole quarantine set up in a hotel is bizarre. The point of quarantine is to prevent the sick getting out.
Now anyone who arrives they shove in a hotel. So here is what happens. The violently ill (if they exist) then travel with expose the healthy arrivals, hotel workers, medical professionals, drivers, delivery, police who then mix in the community.

As opposed to if everyone just went home. Those who get violently ill will be bed ridden, receive treatment from medical professionals with the right gear and maybe pass to their families. But it is constrained to households which is easier to contain.

Hotel quarantine makes it worse. If you want quarantine it needs to be at a infectious diseases hospital with the right protocol. Locking up healthy arrivals, face masks, lock downs etc actually do jack all.

 

[burge13]

Sneaky bastards. See how the narrative has changed.
It's now we have to lockdown if we get a case..........this is our only hope of avoiding lockdowns.
Other policy options have just been chucked out the window. Still no proof lockdowns work

Lockdowns work in stopping the spread of the virus.

Lockdowns also work in adding to 100's of other problems, which is the problem with lockdowns

Problems lockdowns solve = covid spread.
Problems lockdowns cause = business ruined, funerals/weddings canceled, closed borders, exacerbated poverty, cancer screenings down 40%, mental health, kids school ruined and milestones missed (this leads to lower life expectancy), people living week to week left in the lurch, mortgage delinquencies coming, tax bills through the roof, families torn apart and so on.

What the lockdown campaigners refuse to acknowledge about their precious lockdowns isn't that it stops the spread of a virus with a > 99.5% survival rate, they love that. They refuse to acknowledge the problems lockdowns and their support of them causes.

They are utter campaigners and I truly hope one of the problems I listed hinders their life... but they obviously don't, or they wouldn't support house arrest aka 'lockdowns'

 

[Run n Spread]

Lockdowns work in stopping the spread of the virus.

Lockdowns also work in adding to 100's of other problems, which is the problem with lockdowns

Problems lockdowns solve = covid spread.
Problems lockdowns cause = business ruined, funerals/weddings canceled, closed borders, exacerbated poverty, cancer screenings down 40%, mental health, kids school ruined and milestones missed (this leads to lower life expectancy), people living week to week left in the lurch, mortgage delinquencies coming, tax bills through the roof, families torn apart and so on.

What the lockdown campaigners refuse to acknowledge about their precious lockdowns isn't that it stops the spread of a virus with a > 99.5% survival rate, they love that. They refuse to acknowledge the problems lockdowns and their support of them causes.

They are utter campaigners and I truly hope one of the problems I listed hinders their life... but they obviously don't, or they wouldn't support house arrest aka 'lockdowns'

Agree with all that but question if lockdowns even work. People still need to eat and function. So lockdown where does everyone go? Supermarket, testing centres or the few places that are open and cram there. When Victoria rocked 700 + cases last year the outbreaks were hospital and meat works. (The same places that still need to open in Stage 1 million).

Think like a prison. If they are locked down 23 hours a day but are allowed 1 hour fresh air they'd all mix in the yard and spread a virus like wild fire. Where if you move freely it spreads the risk.

 

[Run n Spread]

Lockdowns work in stopping the spread of the virus.

Lockdowns also work in adding to 100's of other problems, which is the problem with lockdowns

Problems lockdowns solve = covid spread.
Problems lockdowns cause = business ruined, funerals/weddings canceled, closed borders, exacerbated poverty, cancer screenings down 40%, mental health, kids school ruined and milestones missed (this leads to lower life expectancy), people living week to week left in the lurch, mortgage delinquencies coming, tax bills through the roof, families torn apart and so on.

What the lockdown campaigners refuse to acknowledge about their precious lockdowns isn't that it stops the spread of a virus with a > 99.5% survival rate, they love that. They refuse to acknowledge the problems lockdowns and their support of them causes.

They are utter campaigners and I truly hope one of the problems I listed hinders their life... but they obviously don't, or they wouldn't support house arrest aka 'lockdowns'

Also you are right. 99.7% survival and the average age of a covid death is above life expectancy (most likely co morbidiites).
Yet when people drop dead a couple of days after a vaccine or miscarry hell that's unrelated. This is damaging beyond belief.

Totally absurd the mental gymnastics needed here. It's a cult And lockdowns and vaccines are the commandments.
No mention of immune systems, available therapeutic treatments already available.

Just we have to lockdown because that's what politicians say or take a rushed vaccine because some pharma exec or Bill Gates says. Unbelievable.
A few will debate. But most won't answer direct questions. Just eat this shit up.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Lockdowns work in stopping the spread of the virus.

Lockdowns also work in adding to 100's of other problems, which is the problem with lockdowns

Problems lockdowns solve = covid spread.
Problems lockdowns cause = business ruined, funerals/weddings canceled, closed borders, exacerbated poverty, cancer screenings down 40%, mental health, kids school ruined and milestones missed (this leads to lower life expectancy), people living week to week left in the lurch, mortgage delinquencies coming, tax bills through the roof, families torn apart and so on.

What the lockdown campaigners refuse to acknowledge about their precious lockdowns isn't that it stops the spread of a virus with a > 99.5% survival rate, they love that. They refuse to acknowledge the problems lockdowns and their support of them causes.

They are utter campaigners and I truly hope one of the problems I listed hinders their life... but they obviously don't, or they wouldn't support house arrest aka 'lockdowns'

Its a bit of a weird concept though. Death is bad luck and 100% avoidable. If your business is ruined, its because your business is bad, if your funeral or wedding is cancelled, who cares, do it another time. If you are broke, its your own fault for not saving, if you are living week to week the same. If you foreclose on your mortgage its your fault for not having more money

We have this weird idea about death that when it happens and how it happens, it wont be your fault and it will be caused 100% by outside influences. This isnt true. Lifes harsher then that

 

[Run n Spread]

Speaks brilliantly. Some of the best people I’ve ever met have been in martial arts gyms. Honest, hardworking, disciplined, selfless and welcoming.

Was articulate and concise.
And he's best point. Ironically it's a gym. What they're doing is good for health. Which is supposedly what this is about.
Christ if the government was serious subsidise a gym membership, give everyone an extra lunch hour/leisure to work on their health so if they do get a virus they will most likely come to no harm.

 

[burge13]

Its a bit of a weird concept though. Death is bad luck and 100% avoidable. If your business is ruined, its because your business is bad, if your funeral or wedding is cancelled, who cares, do it another time. If you are broke, its your own fault for not saving, if you are living week to week the same. If you foreclose on your mortgage its your fault for not having more money

We have this weird idea about death that when it happens and how it happens, it wont be your fault and it will be caused 100% by outside influences. This isnt true. Lifes harsher then that

It's just amazing to me Hawkie, FP, Owen etc. the ultimate sheep just refute the facts I list about problems. They don't count, only covid matters

It's so short sighted that at this point it's deliberately being a bad person... Yet they feel so ****ing superior. Does my nut in

"Just a few more weeks"...

 

[Lethal Knights]

Also you are right. 99.7% survival and the average age of a covid death is above life expectancy (most likely co morbidiites).
Yet when people drop dead a couple of days after a vaccine or miscarry hell that's unrelated. This is damaging beyond belief.

Totally absurd the mental gymnastics needed here. It's a cult And lockdowns and vaccines are the commandments.
No mention of immune systems, available therapeutic treatments already available.

Just we have to lockdown because that's what politicians say or take a rushed vaccine because some pharma exec or Bill Gates says. Unbelievable.
A few will debate. But most won't answer direct questions. Just eat this sh*t up.

And if you dare even question it, people just shout you down or label you a crazy CT. If you’re expert they just censor you.

The public will lap up the loss of more freedoms though bc it will be sold as a way out of lockdowns.

People are deadset brain dead bc they’re scared, lazy and life been too easy. Freedom has been taken for granted, is being lost and unless it is fought for will evaporate.

It is a choice between safety or freedom but most don’t realise it.