Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[BlueE]

Yes it is

Too bad so sad, its the law they can't attend school unless they've had all their vaccinations.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

In WA it's compulsory vaccinations or kids can't go to school, is that a violation of their rights?

Yes, no ifs or buts.

As humans we have a common law right to protect our life, liberty and property. No-one can force you or your children to be vaccinated against your will. Anything else is totalitarianism, tyranny or whatever you want to call it but not a free society as we believe we live in. More people need to realise this and stand up for their basic rights.

 

[BlueE]

Does not alter DNA. Adverse reactions occur in a minute percentage of jabees, most recover by the next day. Actual deaths are usually assisted by existing conditions, kind of like covid itself.

Interesting, many doctors and specialists have warned there haven't been successful human vaccines modifying RNA through mRNA vaccine and DNA through injecting adenovector monkey DNA. The Modena boss says it does, Bill Gates says it does and Zuck and his Dr wife says it does and it's just we need to be cautious because we don't know the long term side effects of modifying RNA and DNA


Actual deaths without existing conditions were only 6% of want was reported in US, and none of the countries in the world that have had hundreds of thousands of cases have had death rates any difference on average than the last 5 years.

In Australia, our COVID deaths plus flu deaths plus pneumonia deaths, are 2000 less than flu and pneumonia deaths in previous years.

So where is the problem that we've got to vaccinate everyone over 16 with 20 million Pfizer and 53 million AZ doses we've ordered?

Many aged care homes in US and many European countries reported between 20 and 50% deaths. The US and UK keeping records of adverse effects and deaths are 4 to 6 weeks behind the administrating of the injections but have over 500,000 serious adverse effects, 1700 deaths in US and around 500 (both injections) reported so far in the UK.

The best doctors in the US have testified to Senate hearing with safe and effective therapeutics that are saving almost 100% of people that contract SARS CoV 2, there should be no reason for any to die unless they have serious comorbidities they would have died from anyhow.

Did you listen to the latest with Dr Urso I posted and the pervious national testimony from Dr Pierre Kory, a pulmonary ICU specialist?

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Condemnation as coughing Tanzanian minister gives news conference

Video of Finance Minister Philip Mpango, maskless and in a coughing fit, has been widely condemned.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[BlueE]

Going around in circles with your pea-sized brain is tiresome

Australia, a secluded island with closed borders and warm weather. Had zero cases for weeks/months on end and no uptick in health sector stress yet you wanted to lockdown because countries 1000's of km away had more cases. You are a very, very special human.

I like Hawkie and what he says is only the mainstream narrative. Keep chipping away with facts, at some stage he might see the light or maybe not, but good practice presenting an alternative argument.

 

[BlueE]

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Condemnation as coughing Tanzanian minister gives news conference

Video of Finance Minister Philip Mpango, maskless and in a coughing fit, has been widely condemned.

www.aljazeera.com

Hahahaha. Iran supported Qatar disinformation, and that's not supposed to be propaganda?

That wasn't President John Mafuguli in the video and if anyone is still being put on ventilators for COVID -19 they're getting the wrong treatment, or it's for somehting else.

 

[Bender20]

Too bad so sad, its the law they can't attend school unless they've had all their vaccinations.

My kids grandfather was an immunologist and an award winning geneticist mapping dna lineage.

Neither of my children are vaxxed which wasn't popular, so much so he tried to obtain legal counsel to force me to vaccinate them.

My son now 20 was one of the smallest babies to leave hospital, severely premature. They start vaccinating in hospital at the same schedule as normal gestation babies. Which I refused. The head paediatrician who chose my son from birth to treat had no issue whatsoever when I told him.

People make a big deal about non vaccinated kids, generally fuelled by Government and pharmaceutical companies misinformation and they do it for free which is laughable.
Once you make that decision it is amazing how many doctors you meet who say I would do the same for my children.

To use force or disadvantage to achieve your agenda really says everything about how evil these decision makers are.

My eldest sisters first child was vaccine injured!

I had a fantastic relationship with my father-in-law till he passed a few years ago, stand up for your rights and you eventually bring anyone around.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

You can be thankful that all the children who have received the triple antigen vaccine have almost eradicated diphtheria in Western countries, which routinely killed small children even last century, and reduced the incidence of whooping cough. Children still die of whooping cough even today. Just don’t take your kids to developing countries where these diseases are common.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Had my first run in last night with a so called covid officer at a pub, let's just say he takes his job just a little too seriously who just kept yelling " it's law, its law " and I wasn't the only one he threatened either ****ing psychopath, anyways the joke was on him as my phone doesn't do apps you moron.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Covid officer? Haha. So what's the deal? You're supposed to have an app or something to go to the pub?

 

[ioppolo]

Covid officer? Haha. So what's the deal? You're supposed to have an app or something to go to the pub?

From my understanding, their job is to make sure you sign in, have a mask and meet social distancing requirements with your party if you have one with you.

 

[burge13]

Hall monitors from school are getting some of their power back...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Its always a balancing act as to who we believe on their trustworthy figures

Any reason only you can claim this as a argument approach? You want to go with trust the vaccines and "trustworthy figures". Last time I checked it wasnt Singapore paying billions in fines for deliberately misinforming people about there products and then forcing it onto people despite its failures causing hundreds and thousands of people to die and still counting.

In any sense its a rather bi-polar way to approach a topic. You do need to reach a point where you can admit you were wrong about a subject. I have and did when I realised what EU's end game is with AstraZenecca and how they most likely banned it in order to force them to up there supply to them.

I think South Africa is a game changer for the most part. Keep a eye on them as we go on, because its becoming clear they crushed the virus by letting it take its course.

 

[M Malice]

Had my first run in last night with a so called covid officer at a pub, let's just say he takes his job just a little too seriously who just kept yelling " it's law, its law " and I wasn't the only one he threatened either ******* psychopath, anyways the joke was on him as my phone doesn't do apps you moron.

Covid officer? Haha. So what's the deal? You're supposed to have an app or something to go to the pub?

I went to a pub up here in Brisbane on new years eve and we were supposed to do the scan on entry thing and my phone doesn't do that(I only use it for texts and calls), so I had to sign in on a manual sheet. Really was a joke though, they had tables separated and signs up saying to social distance but people were crammed together around the bar trying to get a drink.. again ridiculous stuff.

So much for the supposed highly contagious virus, not one community transmission from the doctor who got it last week and then went to multiple locations + a month or so ago we had the one case which led to a 5 day hard lockdown which also resulted in zero community transmissions after she went on public transport, went shopping etc.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I went to a pub up here in Brisbane on new years eve and we were supposed to do the scan on entry thing and my phone doesn't do that(I only use it for texts and calls), so I had to sign in on a manual sheet. Really was a joke though, they had tables separated and signs up saying to social distance but people were crammed together around the bar trying to get a drink.. again ridiculous stuff.

So much for the supposed highly contagious virus, not one community transmission from the doctor who got it last week and then went to multiple locations + a month or so ago we had the one case which led to a 5 day hard lockdown which also resulted in zero community transmissions after she went on public transport, went shopping etc.

Its not about contagious or not. This is a basic fundamental of any virus. Some people shed a virus, some dont

Its something you can easily test. When I had a immune disease those around me were tested for this. My brother sheds a disease but no one else in my household did or would.

When W.A had the 1 case, Mark could have done similar testing and known with 99% certainty that person A couldnt pass on the virus as his immune response doesnt occur that way. It would have hurt his public standing though so was never going to happen

 

[Tiger Toffee]

I went to a pub up here in Brisbane on new years eve and we were supposed to do the scan on entry thing and my phone doesn't do that(I only use it for texts and calls), so I had to sign in on a manual sheet. Really was a joke though, they had tables separated and signs up saying to social distance but people were crammed together around the bar trying to get a drink.. again ridiculous stuff.

So much for the supposed highly contagious virus, not one community transmission from the doctor who got it last week and then went to multiple locations + a month or so ago we had the one case which led to a 5 day hard lockdown which also resulted in zero community transmissions after she went on public transport, went shopping etc.

The idiot actually threatened to turf me out when i questioned him and then he follows me into the pub while i'm looking for my group and harasses me again, i thought I would test the waters so to speak and told him to piss off in no uncertain terms back to his little desk near the front door and just as i suspected he was full of hot air once i snapped back and all i get is the tired old " well don't start any trouble " just a power tripper who has let his position go to his head and off course it is never quiet words when they speak to you it's loud to attract attention.

I was telling this to my group once i found the table and one of them says " i didn't sign in " i asked how did you get past Hitler and he says he came in the side entrance which is never locked due to staff wheeling empty barrels out and the smokers use it to duck out for a *** and come back in. Must remember that i reckon for that pub.

 

[BlueE]

You can be thankful that all the children who have received the triple antigen vaccine have almost eradicated diphtheria in Western countries, which routinely killed small children even last century, and reduced the incidence of whooping cough. Children still die of whooping cough even today. Just don’t take your kids to developing countries where these diseases are common.

Not sure whether you're doing this on purpose or not, but you're confusing vaccines developed by inactivating bacterial toxins to elicit an immune response, and which finished all safety and efficacy trials, to experimental mRNA and adenovector simian DNA injections that have never been safely approved for humans before (experimental adenovector Ebola with high numbers of HIV false positives), developed without the original virus being isolated and with safety and efficacy trials not completed until Jan 2023, with no long term information on how the recipients RNA or DNA will be affected, let alone the known dangers, advers effects and deaths.

 

[BlueE]

Any reason only you can claim this as a argument approach? You want to go with trust the vaccines and "trustworthy figures". Last time I checked it wasnt Singapore paying billions in fines for deliberately misinforming people about there products and then forcing it onto people despite its failures causing hundreds and thousands of people to die and still counting.

In any sense its a rather bi-polar way to approach a topic. You do need to reach a point where you can admit you were wrong about a subject. I have and did when I realised what EU's end game is with AstraZenecca and how they most likely banned it in order to force them to up there supply to them.

I think South Africa is a game changer for the most part. Keep a eye on them as we go on, because its becoming clear they crushed the virus by letting it take its course.

I think the hardest part of this is figuring out who you can trust. Vaccine manufacturers have indemnities so they don't care, governments have had to pay big money for their products and are pushing them, despite hundreds of peer reviewed research and thousands of world wide specialists saying there are safe and effective therapeutics that could be used instead of injections.

I think Sweden should be the wake up call for many with no increased death rate per 100 million, compared to the last 5 years with no lockdowns and they admitted they made mistakes in not protecting their aged care population.

For me India is the country to watch packaging a $2.40 combination of IVM, Zn and antibiotic for therapeutic course, not approving Pfizer and having extremely low other vaccine use (now suspended because of 60 cases of stoke or blood clotting incidents) without social distancing and have shown a normal viral course in the population with very small numbers per million of deaths.

South Africa tested the AZ vaccine and then found it ineffective against the variant that became dominant in SA, and banned it. Many experts warn that variant most likely related to the vaccine.

The death of the Tanzanian President who was strongly anti corruption, educated enough to challenge PCR tests and regarded the vaccine as poison only a month after the call "It's time for Africa to rein in Tanzania's anti-vaxxer president", when Bill Gates and WHO supported GALVI organisations are trying to get African countries to vaccinate, is worth keeping an eye on (some on here a month ago may posted about his safety).

It's time for Africa to rein in Tanzania's anti-vaccine president | Vava Tampa

John Magufuli’s cavalier disregard of Covid-19 in the great lakes region is fuelling conspiracies and endangering lives

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

From my understanding, their job is to make sure you sign in, have a mask and meet social distancing requirements with your party if you have one with you.

Is this only in Victoria? Here in Queensland there is social distancing, sign in if you're going to be seated and that's about it. People voluntarily wear masks on PT, I believe, but not all. I've signed in via QR at the door of a pub, with a staff member monitoring the entrance. I haven't seen or heard of "covid officers" here, but maybe I don't get around enough .

 

[burge13]

Is this only in Victoria? Here in Queensland there is social distancing, sign in if you're going to be seated and that's about it. People voluntarily wear masks on PT, I believe, but not all. I've signed in via QR at the door of a pub, with a staff member monitoring the entrance. I haven't seen or heard of "covid officers" here, but maybe I don't get around enough .

Every pub and sporting club in SA has to have 'covid marshals'. Probably extends to shops but I haven't paid attention there

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Not sure whether you're doing this on purpose or not, but you're confusing vaccines developed by inactivating bacterial toxins to elicit an immune response, and which finished all safety and efficacy trials, to experimental mRNA and adenovector simian DNA injections that have never been safely approved for humans before (experimental adenovector Ebola with high numbers of HIV false positives), developed without the original virus being isolated and with safety and efficacy trials not completed until Jan 2023, with no long term information on how the recipients RNA or DNA will be affected, let alone the known dangers, advers effects and deaths.

I was responding to the person who was proud of not having his children vaccinated against these heartbreaking childhood diseases that used to kill so many, and are still doing so in underprivileged countries.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

https://www.rt.com/news/516931-israel-covid-tracking-bracelet/

A pilot program for the tracking bracelet kicked off at Ben Gurion Airport on Monday, where 100 devices were doled out to arriving travelers as a way to avoid a stay at a military-administered quarantine hotel. Instead, those opting for the bracelet system – which features the electronic wristband, a smartphone app and a wall-mounted tracking device – will be free to return home to wait out the two-week isolation period.

Expect other countries to follow suit in the near future. Tracking & tracing will go to another level soon.

What will it take before more people realise this isn't about a virus.

We call it a ‘freedom bracelet’ because we are not locking anybody up, but rather giving them the opportunity to go home.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I was responding to the person who was proud of not having his children vaccinated against these heartbreaking childhood diseases that used to kill so many, and are still doing so in underprivileged countries.

Where is your similar disdain for a easily preventable disease like malaria?

 

[ioppolo]

https://www.rt.com/news/516931-israel-covid-tracking-bracelet/



Expect other countries to follow suit in the near future. Tracking & tracing will go to another level soon.

What will it take before more people realise this isn't about a virus.

"Military administered". Oh dear.

It's like that movie Contagion. Matt Damon needed a scannable wrist band to enter a shop, which was guarded by armed military personnel.

 

[ioppolo]

Is this only in Victoria? Here in Queensland there is social distancing, sign in if you're going to be seated and that's about it. People voluntarily wear masks on PT, I believe, but not all. I've signed in via QR at the door of a pub, with a staff member monitoring the entrance. I haven't seen or heard of "covid officers" here, but maybe I don't get around enough .

Each state is different. WA doesn't have anyone enforcing anything. As Burge said, South Aus has COVID Marshals