Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[burge13]

Im sure typhoid Mary would have complained too

Booked in for yours yet or still being a hypocrite?

 

[MarcMaverick]

Where is this gym, in the US somewhere?

Actually its a small chain of "gyms"
The one I am referring to is

St Luke's Fitness and Sports Performance Center

Located in

77 S Commerce Way, Bethlehem, PA 18017, United States

There are two others as I have discovered

St. Luke's Fitness & Sports Performance Center - Phillipsburg, NJ in 755 Memorial Pkwy, Phillipsburg, NJ 08865, United States

And

St. Luke's Fitness & Sports Performance Center - West End in 501 Cetronia Rd, Allentown, PA 18104, United States

 

[Fwoy]

 

[No SPIN]

This is beyond delusion and you are heading towards the 5G conspiracy guru level. Can the mods ban this whack job from this thread please?

Beyond delusion ? - the facts are the facts, you’re more than welcome to offer evidence to counter my views, as I have done to yours.
You’re also free to leave this forum if you can’t stand the heat.
Your choice.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Beyond delusion ? - the facts are the facts, you’re more than welcome to offer evidence to counter my views, as I have done to yours.
You’re also free to leave this forum if you can’t stand the heat.
Your choice.

Every single person here has provided mountains of evidence and you refuse to read it or acknowledge it

Its not about heat, its about productive discussion. Hawk Dork is giving us productive discussion and his alternate view is welcome in this thread. You are providing non productive deluded nonesense which is non-senical and illogical.

You are welcome to stay but first things first. Read the evidence and join us in reality. Your delusions here are just leading to pointless circles of us explaining the evidence and you refuting it with bizarre logic and bizarre insight

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Being developed by DARPA who works closely with the Department of Defense and the Department of Health and Human Services.

I know similar articles have been posted here earlier.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

 

[burge13]

Hospitals laying staff off is no surprise. Every year there are 100's, if not 1000's of nurse graduates across the country with significantly fewer retirements. They can't all work full time...

Though, one would assume with such a deadly pandemic going on, hospitals could have used the extra hands?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Hospitals laying staff off is no surprise. Every year there are 100's, if not 1000's of nurse graduates across the country with significantly fewer retirements. They can't all work full time...

Though, one would assume with such a deadly pandemic going on, hospitals could have used the extra hands?

Nonesense thought. Nurses stifle medication by providing alternate treatment paths. They are a enemy of the process for sure so as we go on they will drift into irrelevance one feels

Its better and more profitable to sell a tablet that clears the airwaves and makes breathing easier then it is to sell a machine operated by a nurse that does it for you and thousands of others for one fixed price.

Dont worry though. We will have thousands of more doctors with pen in hand ready to write prescriptions for anything

 

[No SPIN]

Every single person here has provided mountains of evidence and you refuse to read it or acknowledge it

Its not about heat, its about productive discussion. Hawk Dork is giving us productive discussion and his alternate view is welcome in this thread. You are providing non productive deluded nonesense which is non-senical and illogical.

You are welcome to stay but first things first. Read the evidence and join us in reality. Your delusions here are just leading to pointless circles of us explaining the evidence and you refuting it with bizarre logic and bizarre insight

pointless circles of explanation are due to the continued insistence evidence provided offers proof - when its doesn’t.
The link to Dr Doug - doesn’t prove permanent change to DNA by mRNA Vaccine - he states that himself, but no, you guys think it does. That is your delusion not mine.
Similarly potential Vaccine impact on male infertility is not an example of permanent DNA change - it’s about Sperm motility.
I could go on with endless corrections- which are the source of repetition.
That you guys think by repeating the same misinformation, you will somehow blugeon me into submission, is further folly on your behalf.

But the more you persist with this foolishness, the more you expose yourselves, which is perfectly fine with me.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Actually its a small chain of "gyms"
The one I am referring to is

St Luke's Fitness and Sports Performance Center

Located in

77 S Commerce Way, Bethlehem, PA 18017, United States

There are two others as I have discovered

St. Luke's Fitness & Sports Performance Center - Phillipsburg, NJ in 755 Memorial Pkwy, Phillipsburg, NJ 08865, United States

And

St. Luke's Fitness & Sports Performance Center - West End in 501 Cetronia Rd, Allentown, PA 18104, United States

Pennsylvania and New Jersey, doesn't surprise me in that case.

 

[yebiga]

Finally after LOLs on so many of my posts you get the courage to speak.
You’re right I’m hysterical - at the absurd and unsubstantiated rubbish that’s posted here.
And now your insightful contribution is that I know nothing - how lame.

I’m doing you and others a favour who blindly follow these Conspiracists, by exposing their uninformed and baseless contentions.
If you have new evidence to support them, then feel free to do so - but I’m pretty confident it to will not stand up to scrutiny.

Evidence requires observation, a collection of facts into a logical sequence leading to insights and understanding.
You have offered none of this. You place judgment ahead of observation and rationality. The proverbial cart is well and truly before the the horse and it's head placed firmly inside your arse.
The facts and evidence are a menu of options available. You choose one over the other with explicit reasons and logic. You expose them to scrutiny to have them tested. Once the menu of options and the logic is sufficiently tested you may reach something akin to judgement. By then most will be with you. Put simply you have not even tried. Quoting some random observation from a document you barely understand does not cut it.

The assertion something is a blind conspiracy is but aother asinine judgement - devoid of logic or facts. These posts of yours are the emotional outbursts of a child or a mental midget. Asserting that you are confident is another judgement - another cart before the horse moment. I suggest this kind of discourse would be fit for coaching an under 12s football side - try that perhaps.

 

[No SPIN]

Nonesense thought. Nurses stifle medication by providing alternate treatment paths. They are a enemy of the process for sure so as we go on they will drift into irrelevance one feels

Its better and more profitable to sell a tablet that clears the airwaves and makes breathing easier then it is to sell a machine operated by a nurse that does it for you and thousands of others for one fixed price.

Dont worry though. We will have thousands of more doctors with pen in hand ready to write prescriptions for anything

so your solution is to send a patient home with a machine and then have a daily visit from a nurse - all because you think that will be cheaper, than, sending the patient home with tablets.

I think your anti Pharma stance is farcical.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

so your solution is to send a patient home with a machine and then have a daily visit from a nurse - all because you think that will be cheaper, than, sending the patient home with tablets.

I think your anti Pharma stance is farcical.

My solution is to provide a proven treatment as opposed to replacing it with a failing one.

If you think the overprescrption of drugs is a great idea, fine. Dont cry to me though when antiobotic resistant drugs begin to run rampant in the next few decades and you are running scared again, begging for a phama solution to a problem they created

 

[No SPIN]

Evidence requires observation, a collection of facts into a logical sequence leading to insights and understanding.
You have offered none of this. You place judgment ahead of observation and rationality. The proverbial cart is well and truly before the the horse and it's head placed firmly inside your arse.
The facts and evidence are a menu of options available. You choose one over the other with explicit reasons and logic. You expose them to scrutiny to have them tested. Once the menu of options and the logic is sufficiently tested you may reach something akin to judgement. By then most will be with you. Put simply you have not even tried. Quoting some random observation from a document you barely understand does not cut it.

The assertion something is a blind conspiracy is but aother asinine judgement - devoid of logic or facts. These posts of yours are the emotional outbursts of a child or a mental midget. Asserting that you are confident is another judgement - another cart before the horse moment. I suggest this kind of discourse would be fit for coaching an under 12s football side - try that perhaps.

please feel free to point out the specific mistakes I’ve made in countering the arguments on mRNA Vaccine or any other topic.
Commentary above is vacuous without specifics.
And your lamentable accusation about my behavior, ignores, the depth of naïveté amongst your brethren, but who ( unlike yourself) nonetheless, at least have had the courage to attempt to defend their views with what they believe is evidence.

Over to you.

 

[No SPIN]

My solution is to provide a proven treatment as opposed to replacing it with a failing one.

If you think the overprescrption of drugs is a great idea, fine. Dont cry to me though when antiobotic resistant drugs begin to run rampant in the next few decades and you are running scared again, begging for a phama solution to a problem they created

Nice try at diversion.
Lets get back to the topic - how is sending a patient home with a machine with a daily visit from a Nurse - more affordable to our healthcare system than the patient taking a tablet?
And please tell which machine, illness and drugs you are talking about.

 

[faible]

Nice try at diversion.
Lets get back to the topic - how is sending a patient home with a machine with a daily visit from a Nurse - more affordable to our healthcare system than the patient taking a tablet?
And please tell which machine, illness and drugs you are talking about.

All hospitals are IN on the BigPharma conspiracy so are firing all their nurses to help BigPharma make more money. And Gates, it's always Gates, even when it's not Gates, it's Gates.

 

[BlueE]

WA woman suffers blood clot after AstraZeneca vaccine

A West Australian woman aged in her 40s has suffered a blood clot after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.

thewest.com.au

I wonder how many more cases of rare blood clots that haven't been reported. "Diagnosis was complicated by some ambiguous imaging findings and the need to run additional confirmatory blood tests.”

This woman received her AZ jab mid march and it's had time to go before the TGA’s Vaccine Safety Investigation Group (VSIG) which met on Monday evening and concluded the case was “likely to be linked to vaccination”.

This article gives some important information, but leaves out the German numbers that found 1 in 100,000 deaths discussed by Dr Swan and in an interview with the WA chair of the RACGP on 6PR and with incidence of the rare blood platelet problem ten times that much. No one has discussed the very large numbers of blood disorders over over 10,000 recorded in Europe or how the Pfizer jab has it's own rare blood platelet problems leading to deaths or serious adverse effects

“The panel concluded that the case is similar to cases seen in Europe and the United Kingdom of a rare clotting disorder, referred to as 'thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome' (TTS), because it included significant venous thrombosis (blood clots in the veins), thrombocytopenia (low blood platelet count) and blood test results consistent with other cases of TTS (notably, elevated D-dimer and antibodies to platelet factor 4).

There have been about 700,000 doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine administered in Australia. The TGA said while the numbers were small, two cases of TTS equated to a frequency of one in 350,000.

The UK’s regulatory agency concluded from its review of cases reported in Britain that the overall risk of these rare blood clots was about one in 250,000 people who receive the AstraZeneca jab.

Why there's an 'issue' with some doctors and the AstraZeneca vaccine - 6PR

The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners admits there is a “small” percentage of doctors in Western Australia who are reluctant to administer the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. Their concerns centre around patient safety and possible legal ramifications due to complications...

www.6pr.com.au

 

[BlueE]

please feel free to point out the specific mistakes I’ve made in countering the arguments on mRNA Vaccine or any other topic.
Commentary above is vacuous without specifics.
And your lamentable accusation about my behavior, ignores, the depth of naïveté amongst your brethren, but who ( unlike yourself) nonetheless, at least have had the courage to attempt to defend their views with what they believe is evidence.

Over to you.

You're main problem is that you claim to have 100% proof but you haven't, it doesn't exist.

You then misrepresent what the research and what other posters, including me have said. You refuse to or haven't read original sources relating to the current mRNA and or adenovirus simian DNA experimental injections and make claims based on prejudice and not evidence.

Posters here post information often suppressed, not because its incorrect but it doesn't worship at the feet of Big Pharma propaganda like you and others do, so readers can make up their own minds. Not everyone thinks the same. In fact cult like adherence to a dogma in the face of peer reviewed evidence and expert reports from thousands of doctors around the world, applies better to you.

 

[No SPIN]

All hospitals are IN on the BigPharma conspiracy so are firing all their nurses to help BigPharma make more money. And Gates, it's always Gates, even when it's not Gates, it's Gates.

And he’s backed the the Bilderberg Group, Rothchilds and the Davos 8 - we are doomed.

PS - I forget the Alien shape shifting reptilians.

 

[No SPIN]

You're main problem is that you claim to have 100% proof but you haven't, it doesn't exist.

You then misrepresent what the research and what other posters, including me have said. You refuse to or haven't read original sources relating to the current mRNA and or adenovirus simian DNA experimental injections and make claims based on prejudice and not evidence.

Posters here post information often suppressed, not because its incorrect but it doesn't worship at the feet of Big Pharma propaganda like you and others do, so readers can make up their own minds. Not everyone thinks the same. In fact cult like adherence to a dogma in the face of peer reviewed evidence and expert reports from thousands of doctors around the world, applies better to you.

sorry mate - I’ve said the only way to permanently change DNA is using gene editors like CRISPR.
You challenged me saying that mRNA Vaccine could do it and offered irrelevant research - that showed no such effect. And embarrassingly your own papers including Dr. Dougs disagreed with you.

You gave it your best shot with your own references, that I rebutted conclusively - and still you persist.

You have spent your ammo - it’s over, you’re wrong.

It’s exactly because I have posted here that I think HCQ and IMV have merit, that again renders your accusations that I’m a Big Pharma supporter hollow, and so scuttles what remains of your meagre credibility.

 

[yebiga]

please feel free to point out the specific mistakes I’ve made in countering the arguments on mRNA Vaccine or any other topic.
Commentary above is vacuous without specifics.
And your lamentable accusation about my behavior, ignores, the depth of naïveté amongst your brethren, but who ( unlike yourself) nonetheless, at least have had the courage to attempt to defend their views with what they believe is evidence.

Over to you.

Could you have concussion You are asking me to counter, your interpretation of what some clown did or didn't say in an article? And this constitutes the basis of tantrum with Blue which is now some 40 posts long. As I said, you are trading in judgements. You call them evidence based but they are not - they opinions. And it seems no matter how many times your head hits this brick wall, you believe your own bloodied forehead is evidence of something.

 

[No SPIN]

WA woman suffers blood clot after AstraZeneca vaccine

A West Australian woman aged in her 40s has suffered a blood clot after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.

thewest.com.au

I wonder how many more cases of rare blood clots that haven't been reported. "Diagnosis was complicated by some ambiguous imaging findings and the need to run additional confirmatory blood tests.”

This woman received her AZ jab mid march and it's had time to go before the TGA’s Vaccine Safety Investigation Group (VSIG) which met on Monday evening and concluded the case was “likely to be linked to vaccination”.

This article gives some important information, but leaves out the German numbers that found 1 in 100,000 deaths discussed by Dr Swan and in an interview with the WA chair of the RACGP on 6PR and with incidence of the rare blood platelet problem ten times that much. No one has discussed the very large numbers of blood disorders over over 10,000 recorded in Europe or how the Pfizer jab has it's own rare blood platelet problems leading to deaths or serious adverse effects

“The panel concluded that the case is similar to cases seen in Europe and the United Kingdom of a rare clotting disorder, referred to as 'thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome' (TTS), because it included significant venous thrombosis (blood clots in the veins), thrombocytopenia (low blood platelet count) and blood test results consistent with other cases of TTS (notably, elevated D-dimer and antibodies to platelet factor 4).

There have been about 700,000 doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine administered in Australia. The TGA said while the numbers were small, two cases of TTS equated to a frequency of one in 350,000.

The UK’s regulatory agency concluded from its review of cases reported in Britain that the overall risk of these rare blood clots was about one in 250,000 people who receive the AstraZeneca jab.

Why there's an 'issue' with some doctors and the AstraZeneca vaccine - 6PR

The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners admits there is a “small” percentage of doctors in Western Australia who are reluctant to administer the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. Their concerns centre around patient safety and possible legal ramifications due to complications...

www.6pr.com.au

I hope the below reinforces that l’m for common sense and not slavishly Big Pharma as you assert.

So here is a logical question - if as Dr Swan said in his video we’ve had 5 deaths from COVID in under 55’s , then why does that demo ( apart from Health care workers ) need Vaccination at all?

 

[No SPIN]

Could you have concussion You are asking me to counter, your interpretation of what some clown did or didn't say in an article? And this constitutes the basis of tantrum with Blue which is now some 40 posts long. As I said, you are trading in judgements. You call them evidence based but they are not - they opinions. And it seems no matter how many times your head hits this brick wall, you believe your own bloodied forehead is evidence of something.

I asked you to look at the evidence the “clown” offered and to challenge my conclusions on same, if you believed I was wrong.
I don’t care what you think of the “clowns” views.

If you are simply prepared to allow this flagrant misinformation ( note they are not judgments when you offer research as evidence) to be peddled, then that’s your choice - most people here are incapable of challenging these people on the science, but I will do it gladly, to hold the Conspiracist to account.

So please desist with the supercilious postering that such such challenges are neither appropriate or necessary.

 

[BlueE]

pointless circles of explanation are due to the continued insistence evidence provided offers proof - when its doesn’t.
The link to Dr Doug - doesn’t prove permanent change to DNA by mRNA Vaccine - he states that himself, but no, you guys think it does. That is your delusion not mine.
Similarly potential Vaccine impact on male infertility is not an example of permanent DNA change - it’s about Sperm motility.
I could go on with endless corrections- which are the source of repetition.
That you guys think by repeating the same misinformation, you will somehow blugeon me into submission, is further folly on your behalf.

But the more you persist with this foolishness, the more you expose yourselves, which is perfectly fine with me.

The link was to a study that investigated the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome.

They found chimeric transcripts consisting of viral fused to cellular sequences in published data sets of SARS-CoV-2 infected cultured cells and primary cells of patients, consistent with the transcription of viral sequences integrated into the genome. To experimentally corroborate the possibility of viral retro-integration, we describe evidence that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed.

You're the one going around in circles, no one is making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, only that the current research provides hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur.

Infertility of male or female associated with the COIVD injections is a small part of this gene altering possibility, although the head of U of Miami research states that it's probable with the adenovirus simian DNA injections. He says more studies are needed to evaluate exactly how testis tissue responds to the virus and what that might mean to male fertility and sexual transmission, and current human studies on the mRNA injections are ongoing. Better tell them not to bother because you know the results.

Stop misrepresenting research and what is said with your own hyperbole. You must know hat the genetic component of the injections are if you know so much, I must have missed where that was published, so please tell us what they are?

Written warnings were given to the EU authorities about female infertility urging them not to give emergency approval until comprehensive animal studies had been completed and reported on. Again, it's unknown because even though they had mice pregnancy studies they declined to report on them, instead saying they were "ongoing". This is the main reason why UK doctors were given this advice (.pdf linked months ago).




None of the COVID injection animal studies were comprehensive and with teh example of South Africa finding complete different results when they did their own independent research on AZ they found completely different results to those published, so these questions should be answered by an independent lab.