Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[yebiga]

We don't exactly know what they're planning.

It's all going to come down to the amount of pushback that we see from the dumbed down masses, But never say never with things like this.

It's a frightening thing that's being proposed, But this is the reality we're possibly facing sooner than most people think.

Implants are not out of question as well, This is the ultimate goal the elite want to achieve, It's about conditioning the sheep in the meantime step by step.

I share your fears and have found the last 13 months unacceptable, i have often had the feeling it's all just a bad dream and that at any minute I would wake up and everything would make sense and be the way it was. After, 40-50 times of feeling like that I have to accept that this is reality.

I reflect over history and consider parallels where societies/cultures have suffered similar mass delusions.

All our wars are all pretty mush like this, irrational fear is drummed up to a frenzy. None of it makes any sense and the outcomes are always bad. All that follows is a lot of suffering.

In this instance, the war has been declared by governments against its own people. The real parallels are the sectarian wars between Catholics and Protestants throughout Europe. The Government in England conducted a war ridding itself of Catholics and on the continent the French and other Catholic Countries did the same against Protestants.

These were the most brutal, ugly wars that took generations and centuries to resolve themselves. Each treachery was repaid in kind, what followed was a death spiral of brutality.

What this UK Government has inflicted upon its population during the last 13 months will have serious consequences. Trust is the fragile glue that holds civilisation together and that trust has been eroded most severely in the UK.

I expect right now, the British Public, like much of the world is still in a state of shock. We are all processing what has happened and what it all means.
We are still the shell shocked troops on the battle field. The experience is either ongoing or fresh. At some point, the heightened state of shock is normalised or passes. It is only then we begin to feel the emotions of anger, betrayal, disgust... We begin to formulate behavioural adjustments, integrate the experience and reorientate ourselves. And only then does the legacy begin to unfold.

In innumerable ways, I expect the UK public will behave differently amongst each other and in its relations with authority. The bitterness and anger will appear in unexpected places. Inevitably there will be more heavy headed suppression, but it will only cause several more venomous heads to rise like a hydra. I would the get the hell out of England. They are going to eat themselves alive - and perhaps literally.

The experiment conducted on the world during the last 13 months is both unnatural and unprecedented in its scope and mendacity. Its consequences must inevitably be equally unprecedented and unnatural. If I was Boris Johnson, I would resign and emigrate.

There will be consequences here too, but Australians are by nature mild mannered. Only Dan Andrews really crossed real lines of insanity. And Daniel as a consequence will be unable to walk freely in public for quite some time - if ever again.

 

[Registered User]

Pissa. I hope it's real.

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[Hawk Dork]

lockdowns are a winner esp for a virus with 99.9% survival rate

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574,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck (Published 2021)

Since the coronavirus pandemic began sweeping across the country last year, deaths have been 21 percent above normal. See the breakdown by state.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Run n Spread]

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Vax passports are pretty much inevitable it seems, Crazy to think this is all being done without the public consent or being allowed to have our say.

The argument is self defeating. If vaccines are so effective than they offer protection. So someone unvaxed will be only a threat to themselves.
Option 2 if everyone needs the jab and the unvaxed are a threat then they can't be that effective or offer much protection.
The logical fallacy is missed amoung the stampede

 

[ioppolo]

The argument is self defeating. If vaccines are so effective than they offer protection. So someone unvaxed will be only a threat to themselves.
Option 2 if everyone needs the jab and the unvaxed are a threat then they can't be that effective or offer much protection.
The logical fallacy is missed amoung the stampede

The unvaxed will be the reason restrictions stay will be the argument

 

[yebiga]

574,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck (Published 2021)

Since the coronavirus pandemic began sweeping across the country last year, deaths have been 21 percent above normal. See the breakdown by state.

www.nytimes.com

Remarkable, that's greater than the entire number of covid deaths attributed in the USA last year.
This belongs in The Onion as a satirical piece.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Remarkable, that's greater than the entire number of covid deaths attributed in the USA last year.
This belongs in The Onion as a satirical piece.

not every death gets tested

 

[No SPIN]

The argument is self defeating. If vaccines are so effective than they offer protection. So someone unvaxed will be only a threat to themselves.
Option 2 if everyone needs the jab and the unvaxed are a threat then they can't be that effective or offer much protection.
The logical fallacy is missed amoung the stampede

let’s take the steam out the debate and talk about measles.

Point 1- the unvaxxed are a threat because they spread the virus to others - so its not just the threat to themselves. So while most people are vaccinated for measles new outbreaks occur from the unvaxxed.

Point 2 - measles vaccine is very effective but point 1 still applies.

 

[burge13]

The difference is no one in here is against vaccines for diseases we have eradicated (to my knowledge). We've all had polio, measles etc vaccines. They work and are proven to do so.

Flu and now covid vaccines are utter garbage. It's never going away and will never be eradicated. vaccines are not proven to do shit (with covid, personally even sceptical with flu but that isn't being forced on us so no issues). Even better with covid jabs, they won't open borders or restore life with everyone vaxed, they admit you can still get it after the vaccine, and somehow you need multiple. Unlike polio which is gone (by any notable metric here), flu and now covid keeps coming back even with your precious vaccinations? Gee, it's successful.

"lessen the symptoms" is a load too, can't even be quantified on an individual level as we all react differently. I've never had the flu jab, and never had the flu. Coincidence that everyone at work who gets the jab is always sick every winter without fail? Maybe, but it's some coincidence.

Exercise & eat well. You'll feel better

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

not every death gets tested

Even that ridiculoius article admits the obvious

Measuring excess deaths does not tell us precisely how each person died. Most of the excess deaths in this period are because of the coronavirus itself. But it is also possible that deaths from other causes have risen too, as hospitals in some hot spots have become overwhelmed and people have been scared to seek care for ailments that are typically survivable. Some causes of death may be declining, as people stay inside more, drive less and limit their contact with others.

Even the most blind person can see the lockdowns have caused more suicides', preventable deaths via medical malpractice or non treatment, drug overdoses, murders, domestic violence related crimes and so forth. Outside of the white people whose deaths you only seem to care about measuring for whatever reason, the excess deaths created in regions like Africa from starvation caused by the economic turmoil , malaria (lack of drug access) need to be added into a worldwide equation to create a proper baseline for the world impact.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We can talk about this and that in regards to lockdowns but for me one of the sadder things is the loss of humanity when it comes to considering outside factors and outside life

We have truly headed back to the darker days when mass famine events were occuring in the mid 1990s and no one gave a crap or did anything in the slightest. We started too turn a corner in this regard after the events of 1994 in Rwanda in particular but in 2021 it feels like we have gone full pendulum and well and truly back into considering lives in Africa as completely worthless.

Hawk Dork, NO SPIN and co cant even bring themselves to mention the continent, never mind care about whats happening within it. Its so sad to watch this part disintegrate more than most for me. I struggle alot morally with what is about to happen there and the part our society is playing in it. Ive started donating weekly to food aid charities in preparation for whats about to happen. It wont be enough but ill atleast do my best.

 

[Lethal Knights]

let’s take the steam out the debate and talk about measles.

Point 1- the unvaxxed are a threat because they spread the virus to others - so its not just the threat to themselves. So while most people are vaccinated for measles new outbreaks occur from the unvaxxed.

Point 2 - measles vaccine is very effective but point 1 still applies.

Dont think anyone in here is arguing against measles or similar vaccines.
Their effectiveness and long term impacts aren’t in dispute.

There are plenty of doubts about Covid vaccines. The fact govts around the world can then talk of needing mandatory vaccines and health passports so we can return or access normal life is plain propaganda.
It’s basically terrorism - govts are saying here you can have your life back only if you let us take control of your health and body.
That is the contradiction of freedom.
But people are going for it bc they’re scared and demoralised.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The difference is no one in here is against vaccines for diseases we have eradicated (to my knowledge). We've all had polio, measles etc vaccines. They work and are proven to do so.

Flu and now covid vaccines are utter garbage. It's never going away and will never be eradicated. vaccines are not proven to do sh*t (with covid, personally even sceptical with flu but that isn't being forced on us so no issues). Even better with covid jabs, they won't open borders or restore life with everyone vaxed, they admit you can still get it after the vaccine, and somehow you need multiple. Unlike polio which is gone (by any notable metric here), flu and now covid keeps coming back even with your precious vaccinations? Gee, it's successful.

"lessen the symptoms" is a load too, can't even be quantified on an individual level as we all react differently. I've never had the flu jab, and never had the flu. Coincidence that everyone at work who gets the jab is always sick every winter without fail? Maybe, but it's some coincidence.

Exercise & eat well. You'll feel better

A funny aspect of this. I was extremely sick as a child. I ran into someone on the weekend who I used to sit in hospital with who made it out who was in the exact same situation. As we spoke about this subject our opinions matched each other in there entirety and in particular with the last bit of the equation

The second you escape that life and death like illness the very first thing you do is well look after your body in every way you can. Its funny to me how that so many people afraid of death do not, yet those who got close to it do. Like somehow the absence of life experience leads to a complete ignoring of a extremely basic life principle

Neither of us could figure this out ourselves. What is it in the mentality of those who fear death that result in them not putting in 100% effort to protect themselves from it? Its something worth studying. Only thing I could think of is just a general lack of awareness of there surroundings in general.

 

[zill]

https://www.facebook.com/help/230764881494641

This is the policy page where facebook lists the reasons for having a post deleted. Amongst all the regular stuff like claims that covid is spread by 5G and the vaccine will turn you into a monkey, they also censor any claims that the vaccine can kill or seriously harm people (specifically including that it can cause blood clots), claims that the vaccine can cause miscarriage (despite official warnings that women should not get the vaccine if they are pregnant or planning to become pregnant shortly after getting the vaccine). You also can't say that it was man-made (although you can say that it leaked from a lab where hybrid viruses were engineered that were able to infect human cells).

Legitimate medical advise and scientific information is being censored, and it's being done under the pretense that it's "dangerous misinformation and conspiracy theories".

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Always remember

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Vax passports are pretty much inevitable it seems, Crazy to think this is all being done without the public consent or being allowed to have our say.

I agree with Yebiga, it will be too hard to administer outside of international travel and even then you would need every country to be on board because you could then find your way in through the backdoor.

Plus always remember it's a two way street, they ask you and you have every right to ask them.

Like tonight i am meeting a few mates at the pub before the game, now the person on the door will want me to QR code but i can't do that so i will then be asked to jot down my details on a pad for all to see, i will fib off course but at the same time be asking that persons name and number also, they will off course ask why and then say no and i will state it's to protect me against identity fraud as you are the person in control of this pad and are also in control of who see's my name and number and the next person using this pad might memorise my details to use elsewhere.

 

[Run n Spread]

let’s take the steam out the debate and talk about measles.

Point 1- the unvaxxed are a threat because they spread the virus to others - so its not just the threat to themselves. So while most people are vaccinated for measles new outbreaks occur from the unvaxxed.

Point 2 - measles vaccine is very effective but point 1 still applies.

Point 1 True. But the vaccinated are protected. So those unvaccinated are making a choice to assume the risk. Those who wish to be protected are vaccinated.
Point 2. The jury is still out on the effectiveness of covid. And the risk of the jab seems on par with the risk of the virus for most.
I'm not arguing against anyone voluntarily getting the covid shot. Go nuts. Am against compulsory by default medical treatment.
On a personal note at previous work I've been offered different vaccines.
Measles I got as even thou it's minor figured if I ever had kids wouldn't want fertility effected.
Flu I don't bother with as it's hit and miss and based off last year's strain.
Whooping cough I got.
Covid= no way. The hysteria and zeal with how it is been pushed doesn't fill me with confidence not is it necessary for something with such a minor IFR.

 

[Run n Spread]

A funny aspect of this. I was extremely sick as a child. I ran into someone on the weekend who I used to sit in hospital with who made it out who was in the exact same situation. As we spoke about this subject our opinions matched each other in there entirety and in particular with the last bit of the equation

The second you escape that life and death like illness the very first thing you do is well look after your body in every way you can. Its funny to me how that so many people afraid of death do not, yet those who got close to it do. Like somehow the absence of life experience leads to a complete ignoring of a extremely basic life principle

Neither of us could figure this out ourselves. What is it in the mentality of those who fear death that result in them not putting in 100% effort to protect themselves from it? Its something worth studying. Only thing I could think of is just a general lack of awareness of there surroundings in general.

Fascinating psychology behind this. Those with the most paranoia are less at risk. I've visited 3 country towns lately and paranoia is huge sign ins masks etc.
Yet business opened in Melbourne at the site of an outbreak and Brits I've spoken to have said we just have to live with it.

 

[zill]

I agree with Yebiga, it will be too hard to administer outside of international travel and even then you would need every country to be on board because you could then find your way in through the backdoor.

Yes the app/QR code thing is doomed to failure. My phone doesn't recognise qr codes and it's not that old. The ID will have to be moved from an app to a physical card, like a credit card or myki with a passive RFID circuit. The federal govt has been trying to implement a national id for almost 40 years, the fear surrounding covid and regular citizens wanting to get on with their life will probably be enough to get it over the line. The govt has shown that they are willing to sign people up to a digital health record without their consent, with the threat of lockdowns and covid fearmongering behind them there will be masses of people begging for it. Depending on what info is linked and who might have access to it a "vaccine passport" could very quickly become a social credit system.

 

[Hawk Dork]

New study says mandatory mask laws were single biggest factor in stemming Victorian Covid-19 outbreak
A new study from leading epidemiologists has hailed everyone’s begrudging new accessory as the key factor in Melbourne’s trampling of coronavirus.

One thing that saved Victoria

A new study conducted by leading epidemiologists has claimed Victoria’s strict mandatory mask laws were the single biggest factor in stemming Melbourne’s disastrous COVID-19 outbreak in 2020.

www.news.com.au

 

[Run n Spread]

Looking like a Oct 31 border reopening the airlines are pushing for.
My guess you'll need the vaccine to go.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Looking like a Oct 31 border reopening the airlines are pushing for.
My guess you'll need the vaccine to go.

We might be running out of places to go unless the vaxxing speeds up world wide
Thailand has got the UK variety kicking off ....dont know how effective all the vaxes are to that one
If the Saffa one takes off its even worse


Holiday hub Phuket could become a global super-spreader site unless Thailand manages to flatten its third wave of COVID-19 infections before the island’s planned reopening to international tourists in the middle of the year.

Thailand’s COVID third wave threatens plan to open Phuket to world

With record numbers of the virus seeded by entertainment venues, the vision for quarantine-free travel in the holiday hub from July has received a major blow.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Hawk Dork]

Mexico’s high Covid death toll blamed on populist government
New report points finger at nation’s penny-pinching policies and failure to act on scientific advice



Mexico’s health department officially says there have been almost 210,000 deaths in the country of 126 million, but because so little testing has been done, Mexico acknowledges that the real toll is nearer 330,000.
The US and Brazil have higher tolls, but also much larger populations.

The failures by officials to recommend face masks, bring in travel restrictions, provide enough testing and protective equipment and introduce social distancing measures were among the mistakes cited by the report, commissioned by the World Health Organization’s Independent Panel to the Institute for Global Health.

Mexico’s high Covid death toll blamed on populist government

New report points finger at penny-pinching policies and failure to react to science

www.theguardian.com

Mexico Covid death toll leaps 60% to reach 321,000
New government report includes excess deaths and shows fatalities may exceed those of Brazil, the world’s second worst-affected country

Mexico Covid death toll leaps 60% to reach 321,000

New government report includes excess deaths and shows fatalities may exceed those of Brazil, the world’s second worst-affected country

www.theguardian.com

 

[ioppolo]

News.com.au & The Guardian.

Fuxk Hawkie you have discovered the pinnacle of journalism there

 

[yebiga]

Mexico’s high Covid death toll blamed on populist government
New report points finger at nation’s penny-pinching policies and failure to act on scientific advice



Mexico’s health department officially says there have been almost 210,000 deaths in the country of 126 million, but because so little testing has been done, Mexico acknowledges that the real toll is nearer 330,000.
The US and Brazil have higher tolls, but also much larger populations.

The failures by officials to recommend face masks, bring in travel restrictions, provide enough testing and protective equipment and introduce social distancing measures were among the mistakes cited by the report, commissioned by the World Health Organization’s Independent Panel to the Institute for Global Health.

Mexico’s high Covid death toll blamed on populist government

New report points finger at penny-pinching policies and failure to react to science

www.theguardian.com

Mexico Covid death toll leaps 60% to reach 321,000
New government report includes excess deaths and shows fatalities may exceed those of Brazil, the world’s second worst-affected country

Mexico Covid death toll leaps 60% to reach 321,000

New government report includes excess deaths and shows fatalities may exceed those of Brazil, the world’s second worst-affected country

www.theguardian.com

Surely everyone is dead in Mexico by now.
I think we might all be dead
I’m certain you and no spin have long ago separated from your bodies

 

[Hawk Dork]

News.com.au & The Guardian.

Fuxk Hawkie you have discovered the pinnacle of journalism there

I admit they arent much for memes or youtube channels out of their garages