Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[burge13]

I'll say it again, I'm sick of the blobbenly masses. Stuff 'em. I'm no longer gunna spread facts about the probably dodgy vaccines made by proven dodgy companies, because if more plebs get jabbed, then Dan's and Scomo's goons are less likely to force us to get it down the track.

Im not talking about vaccines. You cant have that discussion without being labelled CT

What i said above is not conspiracy. These people supporting measures and ignoring the byproducts are shitty people. Simple as that

Problems lockdowns solve: covid spread
Problems lockdown cause: we could list 30+ without issue

Again. No conspiracy about this

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I’m less a anti vaxxer and more anti bullshit. I’ll take a vaccine when proven and necessary. I’ll take one for yellow fever if asked. A disease with 30 percent mortality, a vaccine thats been around for decades and properly created and tested as opposed to the .0003 percent mortality and a unproven vaccine without proper testing that Covid has

 

[burge13]

I’m less a anti vaxxer and more anti bullshit. I’ll take a vaccine when proven and necessary. I’ll take one for yellow fever if asked. A disease with 30 percent mortality, a vaccine thats been around for decades and properly created and tested as opposed to the .0003 percent mortality and a unproven vaccine without proper testing that Covid has

My thoughts exactly. Im not antivax at all but at the same time i dont get ones i dont need. Never got the flu one, never had the flu (as opposed to everyone at work who rushes to get the vax for free then gets sick). Covid will be treated the same way

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

We really are living in a twilight zone or involved in some sort of dystopian reality show.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

The world won't be fully vaccinated for covid until 2027 they say.

No vaccines for myself at all no matter what.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

The coronavirus variant first found in Kent could become the world's dominant strain, the head of the UK's genetic surveillance programme has predicted.

Prof Sharon Peacock told the BBC's Newscast podcast the new variant has "swept the country" and "it's going to sweep the world, in all probability".

She said her work sequencing variants of the virus could be required for at least 10 years.

Interesting how 2030 continually pops up so much these days.

She sounds like just another puppet who's sold out to this agenda.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56019995

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

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The world won't be fully vaccinated for covid until 2027 they say.

No vaccines for myself at all no matter what.

That will please Greta and the rest of the climate alarmist.

 

[BlueE]

Abstract
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on August 23, 2020, “For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19 , on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.”[1]

For a nation tormented by restrictive public health policies mandated for healthy individuals and small businesses, this is the most important statistical revelation of this crisis. This revelation significantly impacts the published fatalities count due to COVID-19. More importantly, it exposes major problems with the process by which the CDC was able to generate inaccurate data during a crisis.

The CDC has advocated for social isolation, social distancing, and personal protective equipment use as primary mitigation strategies in response to the COVID-19 crisis, while simultaneously refusing to acknowledge the promise of inexpensive pharmaceutical and natural treatments. These mitigation strategies were promoted largely in response to projection model fatality forecasts that have proven to be substantially inaccurate.

Further investigation into the legality of the methods used to create these strategies raised additional concerns and questions.

Why would the CDC decide against using a system of data collection & reporting they authored, and which has been in use nationwide for 17 years without incident, in favor of an untested & unproven system exclusively for COVID-19 without discussion and peer-review?

Did the CDC’s decision to abandon a known and proven effective system also breach several federal laws that ensure data accuracy and integrity?

Did the CDC knowingly alter rules for reporting cause of death in the presence of comorbidity exclusively for COVID-19? If so, why?

https://jdfor2020.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/adf864_165a103206974fdbb14ada6bf8af1541.pdf

 

[BlueE]

't come to that teh Emporer

I'll say it again, I'm sick of the blobbenly masses. Stuff 'em. I'm no longer gunna spread facts about the probably dodgy vaccines made by proven dodgy companies, because if more plebs get jabbed, then Dan's and Scomo's goons are less likely to force us to get it down the track.

Check this out from 2016:

AstraZeneca to pay $5.5 million for bribing doctors in China and Russia By Ed Silverman Aug. 31, 2016

AstraZeneca to pay $5.5 million for bribing doctors in China and Russia

AstraZeneca personnel were charged with scheming to offer gifts, conference expenses, travel, cash, and other thing to influence the purchase of company drugs.

www.statnews.com

I like your thinking, but under emergency powers we can be forced to take the vaccine, with WA allowing them to rip off your pants and jab you.

However, while I hope it won't come to that, the indications are (and I hope I'm wrong), you won't be able to travel interstate or overseas, be paid in some cases or even be allowed at school if you haven't had it.

 

[BlueE]

The CDC has come out with a new recommendation to wear 2 masks, based on another manikin study measuring particles that go through the fabric with a simulated cough. Does not refer to studies (and Fauci's claims) that show there is no need to wear masks if asymptomatic. You don't pass the infection and it is not a driver of any pandemic!

There is a high variability and as with the other manikin study they don't measure if or how much oxygen is getting to the manikin wearing the mask.

Also there's this.

 

[Steele13]

Im not talking about vaccines. You cant have that discussion without being labelled CT

What i said above is not conspiracy. These people supporting measures and ignoring the byproducts are shitty people. Simple as that

Problems lockdowns solve: covid spread
Problems lockdown cause: we could list 30+ without issue

Again. No conspiracy about this

It's even being generous saying that lockdowns solve covid spread. Obviously it can't ever be proven one way or another. But as I was discussing with a lockdown lover the other day, even IF they work that's not a justification for them. Some fairly horrible things throughout history have worked very well

 

[Lethal Knights]

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The world won't be fully vaccinated for covid until 2027 they say.

No vaccines for myself at all no matter what.

2 weeks to flatten the curve is now 7 years!

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Interesting how 2030 continually pops up so much these days.

She sounds like just another puppet who's sold out to this agenda.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56019995

Now where are my stats showing the UK plummeting in numbers as well as worldwide, anyone with half a brain in this dumbass world who takes the time to run their eyes over the 7 day moving average for new daily cases for current day and 1 month back will see through the fear-mongering.

But most just believe what is bullshitted to them, case in point when Andrews on saturday or sunday crapped on about the virus blowing around in the wind or words to that effect..............nek minnit half of my suburb are wearing masks outside in the sunshine.

 

[Lebbo73]

It's cringeworthy when you see people having a go at random shop assistants, as though they have any control over it. They're just minimum wage employees trying to go about their job. At least call up head office and have a go at them.



Do I get some kind of scarf like with my club membership?

I can’t believe that Victorians have bent over so far to a dictator. Qld tried this shit and I refused.

 

[Lebbo73]

He can answer for himself. If I was exempt I wouldn't be bragging about it on a conspiracy thread.

Come on Socrates2. You only come on here to call everyone a racist.

 

[faible]

I can’t believe that Victorians have bent over so far to a dictator. Qld tried this sh*t and I refused.

What a hero.

Did you make your refusal known to any minimum wage employees?

 

[imadodgyumpire]

I was shocked when listening to the ABC a couple of days ago and Virginia Trioli had a "professor" on proposing wearing double masks. It went unchallenged and Trioli even justified it to when a sms challenged her on it.

The professor wore double masks all the time and it was not a problem for her.

 

[burge13]

Someone on the GD board claims covid kills people 13 years early?! WTF. The average age of covid death is above life expectancy ffs. How the **** do these people get through day to day life being so far removed from reality

 

[ioppolo]

I can’t believe that Victorians have bent over so far to a dictator. Qld tried this sh*t and I refused.

Algorithms and analytics. Whoever is pulling the strings would know who is more likely to do what. Melbourne is probably Australia's model city for them right now. They didn't get far in Queensland or Adelaide but I fear for Perth after this two week wave of unquestioned compliance.

 

[SJ17]

Someone on the GD board claims covid kills people 13 years early?! WTF. The average age of covid death is above life expectancy ffs. How the fu** do these people get through day to day life being so far removed from reality

Haha that was me. Maybe I didn't word it that well. A US study said 13.25 was the average years lost per covid death. Too provide some context the flu is 12.42, Spanish flu 50 According to a diff study.
In hindsight I probably shouldn't have posted it, because it does make covid look scarier than it actually is which was definitely not my intention. If you assume a .5% death rate for covid, across the whole population it would be a decrease of .066 years on average.

 

[Fwoy]

 

[Atavistic]

Hopefully we don't get the South African strain here, because the vaccine we're meant to be getting seeming isn't effective against it. From New Scientist:

Unfortunately, the results from one small ongoing trial of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in South Africa aren’t so good. The trial began in June last year, and results from the first months suggest that the vaccine was about 75 per effective at preventing mild or moderate cases. There were no severe cases, because most volunteers were young and healthy.

But once B.1.351 started becoming the dominant strain in October, there was no statistically significant difference in outcomes between those given the vaccine and those given a placebo, said Madhi. In other words, it seems that the vaccine isn’t effective against B.1.351, but because the numbers are so low – just 1750 volunteers and 42 symptomatic cases – there are huge uncertainties.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2267066-south-africa-rethinks-plans-after-variant-evades-astrazeneca-vaccine/#ixzz6mBZtPBfm

 

[PoppedCorn]

So....
Ramping up is it??


Lol
How obvious was this

 

[MrKK]

Someone on the GD board claims covid kills people 13 years early?! WTF. The average age of covid death is above life expectancy ffs. How the fu** do these people get through day to day life being so far removed from reality

There was some study (US i think) that came up with that number and I meant to dig into it at the time. Seems bs, even when you factor that the life expectancy of a person at 80 is higher than than the whole population average.

So many deaths have been in nursing homes where the avg time from admittance to death in Australia is just over 2 years. And most Covid deaths already had serious health conditions. You'd need an awful lot of healthy young people in the death stats to come out at a 13 avg for years lost.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Haha that was me. Maybe I didn't word it that well. A US study said 13.25 was the average years lost per covid death. Too provide some context the flu is 12.42, Spanish flu 50 According to a diff study.
In hindsight I probably shouldn't have posted it, because it does make covid look scarier than it actually is which was definitely not my intention. If you assume a .5% death rate for covid, across the whole population it would be a decrease of .066 years on average.

Its a weird ass equation because it doesn’t average anything out against a real total. It just grabs a subset of data and averages it out with people in that subset as opposed to the plus equation or the total being averaged out against all deaths. It’s a skewed statistic to get the answer they wanted

How many years lost as a total is the truly interesting stat I think. As well as the average years lost with all deaths included, recognising that some people lost like a week and not years.

Id rather compare it to the 1993 Beijing Flu, but that won’t happen as they simply didnt keep information about it to analyse.