Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[M Malice]

I'm willing to take my chances and not get the vaccine and trust my immune system to deal with it.

Why are we even contemplating the need for children and healthy young adults getting the vaccine is amazing, the chances of them being seriously affected by Covid is infinitesimally small.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

It wont happen. If you're unvaccinated you'll be taking your chances.

Why should people who choose not to take this dna changing jab be discriminated against ?.

Our body, Our Choice, No government has any legal ground to force this on anyone, Nor do they have a right to restrict the movements of a healthy person.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

More lies from the msm being reported.

Example of deliberate errors in reporting to scare people. Look at the left picture 2.8% and then Nebraska news reporting 28%.

 

[Registered User]

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More lies from the msm being reported.

Example of deliberate errors in reporting to scare people. Look at the left picture 2.8% and then Nebraska news reporting 28%.

Ha. Dodgy, but one obvious assumption is that it's a typo, with some nong putting the decimal point in the wrong spot

 

[Registered User]

Deaths from COVID-19 Vaccines are Increasing, & the CDC is Whitewashing It – Anthony Colpo

anthonycolpo.com

 

[Venkman]

Deaths from COVID-19 Vaccines are Increasing, & the CDC is Whitewashing It – Anthony Colpo

anthonycolpo.com

Your still quoting the most garbage sources. Basically anytime you hear that a conspiracy requires the greatest degree of complexity to implement than any other hitherto existing conspiracy then it's bs: 911 was a conspiracy, Gates puts microchips in vaccines to control you like a robot and make you sterile etc. If the covid vaccine does this it would be a pretty big deal. I personally know at least ten people that had the pfizer or az vaccine and they are fine - don't believe the crazy internet stuff.

 

[Registered User]

Your still quoting the most garbage sources. Basically anytime you hear that a conspiracy requires the greatest degree of complexity to implement than any other hitherto existing conspiracy then it's bs: 911 was a conspiracy, Gates puts microchips in vaccines to control you like a robot and make you sterile etc. If the covid vaccine does this it would be a pretty big deal. I personally know at least ten people that had the pfizer or az vaccine and they are fine - don't believe the crazy internet stuff.

LOL. My what? My still quoting? If you wanna seem smart by using "hitherto", you might wanna learn the difference between "your" and "you're" first.

Yeah, right, we're all talking about 911 and microchips. WTF are you talking about? Are you drunk or do you have comprehension issues? If you keep muddying the point with rubbish like that, I'll seriously start thinking you're (note: "you're". There you go, little buddy, there's a simple example to help you learn) a government plant. This is one of most popular forums in the country, so the gov might be worried. Ha,

You know ten WHOLE people who've had the jab? Wow! What a sample size that is!! Let's see what happens after a million have copped it.

Edit: yeah nah, anyway, good trolling; ya got me.

As I suggested the other day, rather than bollocking the sources, perhaps address the points they're making. For instance, Colpo got a lot of that stuff straight off the US CDC site, so why not try to have a crack at those stats?

 

[Registered User]

One-Third of Deaths Reported to CDC After COVID Vaccines Occurred Within 48 Hours of Vaccination

The numbers reflect the latest data available as of Feb. 12 from the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System website. Of the 929 reported deaths, about one-third occurred within 48 hours.

childrenshealthdefense.org

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Your still quoting the most garbage sources. Basically anytime you hear that a conspiracy requires the greatest degree of complexity to implement than any other hitherto existing conspiracy then it's bs: 911 was a conspiracy, Gates puts microchips in vaccines to control you like a robot and make you sterile etc. If the covid vaccine does this it would be a pretty big deal. I personally know at least ten people that had the pfizer or az vaccine and they are fine - don't believe the crazy internet stuff.

As opposed to the crazy MSM stuff that says Covid is so dangerous we need to lock everyone down and force them to wear face masks or millions will die?

At the end of the day most people are simply arguing they have some concerns about a rushed and largely untested vaccine for something that has a 99% recovery rate so therefore the vaccine should not be mandatory and people shouldn't be discriminated against for not having it. A perfectly reasonable position to take I would have thought.

 

[Run n Spread]

I’d like to see a peer review paper on the evidence Lockdowns benefit society.
Has there been any done?

Inadvertently we have. Compare Sweden with England (similar population densities city layout, climate between US states even Melbourne and Sydney, Belarus with Eastern Europe) and there is stuff all evidence lockdowns achieve anything.

 

[Run n Spread]

As opposed to the crazy MSM stuff that says Covid is so dangerous we need to lock everyone down and force them to wear face masks or millions will die?

At the end of the day most people are simply arguing they have some concerns about a rushed and largely untested vaccine for something that has a 99% recovery rate so therefore the vaccine should not be mandatory and people shouldn't be discriminated against for not having it. A perfectly reasonable position to take I would have thought.

Common sense has flown out the window. Most vaccines take at least 5 years to make. This still hasn't finalised production schedules and we don't fully know the effects. Most people don't need it considering Covid is harmless for most.
Similar to face masks been useless if not worn specifically which is impractical for most.
Tunnel vision that would make any religious fundamentalist proud.
Lockdown mask vaccine dare argue a different approach and you're a heretic.
What happened to flattening the curve protecting and using the health system?
What about GPs and doctors consulting with patients on the best treatment options? And leaving decesion to them not bureaucracy.
Add to that majority aren't patients because we're not sick.
Whole thing a waste of time money and resources and people's lives

 

[M Malice]

As opposed to the crazy MSM stuff that says Covid is so dangerous we need to lock everyone down and force them to wear face masks or millions will die?

At the end of the day most people are simply arguing they have some concerns about a rushed and largely untested vaccine for something that has a 99% recovery rate so therefore the vaccine should not be mandatory and people shouldn't be discriminated against for not having it. A perfectly reasonable position to take I would have thought.

They will say technically it is not mandatory.... but maybe you wont be able to travel, attend sporting events/concerts etc unless you're vaccinated.

Even higher survival/recovery rate amongst children and reasonably healthy under 60 years of age adults.

Children and healthy younger adults have much more chance of having a bad health outcome from the seasonal flu than Covid and they don't routinely get the flu vax.

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Is there any word on how they are planning on documenting who has taken this vaccine? I'm talking about a vaccine passport , or an app on the phone or even a piece of paper to prove that you have taken it?

 

[Venkman]

As opposed to the crazy MSM stuff that says Covid is so dangerous we need to lock everyone down and force them to wear face masks or millions will die?

At the end of the day most people are simply arguing they have some concerns about a rushed and largely untested vaccine for something that has a 99% recovery rate so therefore the vaccine should not be mandatory and people shouldn't be discriminated against for not having it. A perfectly reasonable position to take I would have thought.

This is a reasonable position and one that I agree with I am hesitant for this reason (although disagree about the dangers of covid - I don't want it). But that doesn't mean that misinformation should be promoted and start an anti-vax scare - the last few pages have been full of garbage sources and the reality is that the vaccine is being given to millions of people at the moment and you'll be able to make a judgement based on scientific literature not hearsay and unattributed sources from Pete Evans level nutbags. Again, to perpetrate a data manipulation and falsification of results across hundreds of different countries is not possible, the conspiracy is too great, too complex to be true - it's like the Trump election stuff, 911 stuff, 4g towers etc.
This current scenario is also getting conflated with the wider anti vax movement whose positions who are broadly against all vaccination and who represent a danger to us all by promoting misinformatiion.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Scomo will be receiving a saline jab this morning pretending it to be the covid jab.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Is there any word on how they are planning on documenting who has taken this vaccine? I'm talking about a vaccine passport , or an app on the phone or even a piece of paper to prove that you have taken it?

It will be documented through medicare & the mygov website so far as I know.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

This is a reasonable position and one that I agree with I am hesitant for this reason (although disagree about the dangers of covid - I don't want it). But that doesn't mean that misinformation should be promoted and start an anti-vax scare - the last few pages have been full of garbage sources and the reality is that the vaccine is being given to millions of people at the moment and you'll be able to make a judgement based on scientific literature not hearsay and unattributed sources from Pete Evans level nutbags. Again, to perpetrate a data manipulation and falsification of results across hundreds of different countries is not possible, the conspiracy is too great, too complex to be true - it's like the Trump election stuff, 911 stuff, 4g towers etc.
This current scenario is also getting conflated with the wider anti vax movement whose positions who are broadly against all vaccination and who represent a danger to us all by promoting misinformatiion.

Good on them for trying to warn more people about the dangers of past vaccine's & more so the new one that's never been properly tested for prolonged periods.

You don't grant full indemnity to companies that claim they're safe to use, If they're are safe like we've been told, Well there is no need to provide those pharma companies with no liability.

The only misinformation we've been hearing has been coming from the msm & governments the entire time, If their is no truth to what's being exposed by people outside of the msm, They shouldn't need to silence anyone who's opposed to the agenda that's been going on.

If you trust a company like Pfizer with your health, It's pretty alarming you'd put your faith in a company that was fined $2.3 billion for illegal marketing, The irony of you coming here to say it's disinformation being posted, But we should trust a company that was charged with health care fraud.

In the largest health care fraud settlement in history, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer must pay $2.3 billion to resolve criminal and civil allegations that the company illegally promoted uses of four of its drugs, including the painkiller Bextra, the U.S. Department of Justice announced Wednesday.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Your still quoting the most garbage sources. Basically anytime you hear that a conspiracy requires the greatest degree of complexity to implement than any other hitherto existing conspiracy then it's bs: 911 was a conspiracy, Gates puts microchips in vaccines to control you like a robot and make you sterile etc. If the covid vaccine does this it would be a pretty big deal. I personally know at least ten people that had the pfizer or az vaccine and they are fine - don't believe the crazy internet stuff.

Whats a good source out Of curiosity?

Its the real issue with any form of media atm. It is so agenda driven and money controlled it’s hard to get the opinions from those who matter

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Scomo will be receiving a saline jab this morning pretending it to be the covid jab.

Can always pull a Bill Gates

Scott Morrison receives first coronavirus vaccine

 

[Run n Spread]

Can always pull a Bill Gates

Scott Morrison receives first coronavirus vaccine

This is something oddly weird about this. Like a marketing campaign to sell it. But if it is the great medical miracle we are led to believe why do we need to be convinced to take it?
Why all these weird poses with the vial?
Why a launch like it's a space shuttle with press in attendance and people filmed taking it and receiving a round of applause like they've crossed the Atlantic for the first time?
Surely if this is as safe and effective as the covid nuts jobs claim it gets distributed to doctors and pharmacists patients then on need go in and take the jab and get on with their days.
This hyped fan fare is odd. Maybe it doesn't have such support if such "encouragement" is needed. A lot of people are correctly sceptical of this

 

[Venkman]

Scomo will be receiving a saline jab this morning pretending it to be the covid jab.

rubbish.

 

[Venkman]

Whats a good source out Of curiosity?

Its the real issue with any form of media atm. It is so agenda driven and money controlled it’s hard to get the opinions from those who matter

Good sources are good sources - they are quote data based on verifiable studies and can referred back to the scientific literature. And no not all media is questionable, it just seems that way because the internet is making a toxic environment where disinformation is spread.

 

[Venkman]

Good on them for trying to warn more people about the dangers of past vaccine's & more so the new one that's never been properly tested for prolonged periods.

You don't grant full indemnity to companies that claim they're safe to use, If they're are safe like we've been told, Well there is no need to provide those pharma companies with no liability.

The only misinformation we've been hearing has been coming from the msm & governments the entire time, If their is no truth to what's being exposed by people outside of the msm, They shouldn't need to silence anyone who's opposed to the agenda that's been going on.

If you trust a company like Pfizer with your health, It's pretty alarming you'd put your faith in a company that was fined $2.3 billion for illegal marketing, The irony of you coming here to say it's disinformation being posted, But we should trust a company that was charged with health care fraud.

No not good on them. This the biggest lunatic group in our society at the moment - a good number of which overlap with the Billy Gates vaccine conspiracy stuff, the 4g stuff etc - you don't hear that much about because those conspiracy theories implode under the weight of their own ridiculousness. This is not some fair minded group trying to warn about the dangers of untested vaccines - they are against all vaccines based on psuedo mumbo jumbo. Again, vaccines are a miracle of our age and these people take advantage of the fact that they live in an affluent society where people immunise around them, thus giving them herd immunity so that they cliam that they don't have polio or whatever because they eat mung beans or follow the Pete Evans diet or whatever.

 

[Venkman]

I know five people in the Uk that have at the jab and all are fine.

 

[Venkman]

Either way eventually they will open up the economy as lockdowns aren't feasible long term. You'll get a choice then to get the jab or take your chances with cv-19, if you think a bit of honey lemon tea and chicken soup will get you through you'll be able to test your theory. I think a lot of anti vaxes will change their minds when they face the prospect of actually getting it.