Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[BlueE]

If it was in Australia and the virus was as rampant as there it would still be closed
We had jobkeeper and seeker though,the US has minimal safety nets...so its give us your money and we tell you not to scream so you dont sue us when you get the ronna

California have had schools, restaurants, closed for a year, no spectators are worse on every measurement including, cases, hospitalisations and deaths and the economy than States like Florida which opened up in May last year. Many of those measurements are incorrect and cases and deaths have been false positives and over inflated by saying COVID 19 was a cause of death but in many cases something else was .Florida held the Superbowl and had thousands of spectators in Tampa dancing in the streets and partying and had no spike in Rona after.

How would you like it Dan said if you want to watch Hawks V Dons we'll half fill the stadium, but no one is allowed to cheer or stand up!

It's all about control, not health and any suing will be against governments that withheld permission to use safe and effective therapeutics like HCQ and IVM just so they could push vaccines.

The Rona is as dangerous as the flu (killed 300 less than a bad flu year in 2017 in Australia) and just like the flu affects the elderly with comorbidities. Those that want to stay in their

 

[BlueE]

From the article >
When Ariel saw her two young sons isolated in a Hong Kong hospital ward with Covid-19, she broke down. The brothers -- age 5 and 1 and both asymptomatic -- were wearing vests that were tied to their beds to restrain them. They were covered in dirt and both wearing diapers, even the five-year-old.
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That is downright barbaric, I'd rather die than see my grandchildren go through that. I have been hugging and cuddling my grandchildren all the way through this "pandemic" and no power hungry, cruel, narcissistic politician can stop me.

That is child abuse! I don't know how people allow it.

 

[BlueE]

Is it True Asymptomatic COVID Patients Can't Spread Virus?

A website alleged a study found "asymptomatic transmission of COVID-19 didn't occur at all."

www.snopes.com

Snopes quotes the meta analysis where scientists compiled 54 already-existing studies, including more than 78,000 people for their conclusions.

Snopes disparages this saying "Rather than conducting physical experiments or observing themselves", when the meta analysis of 78,000 subjects is much more powerful and relevant that one study Snopes think they should have conducted themselves.

Results of the meta analysis include:

To study the transmissibility of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 index cases, eFigure 8 in the Supplement summarizes 27 studies (19-21,23-26,30,32-34,44,45,47,50,52-54,56,59-61,63,64,68,69,72) reporting household secondary attack rates from symptomatic index cases and 4 studies (26,43,44,52) from asymptomatic or presymptomatic index cases. Estimated mean household secondary attack rate from symptomatic index cases (18.0%; 95% CI, 14.2%-22.1%) was significantly higher than from asymptomatic or presymptomatic index cases (0.7%; 95% CI, 0%-4.9%; P < .001), although there were few studies in the latter group. These findings are consistent with other household studies (28,70) reporting asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission

Symptomatic household spread of cases was 18% and household asymptomatic spread 0.7%!! This is consistent with other studies that report "asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission."

Snopes then say there is a "widely misrepresented element of the research: The studies to which the scientists referred did not look at how the virus spreads from person to person in public settings. Rather, the research interrogated how, or to what severity, members of the same household pass the virus to each other."

Excuse me? They wanted to see if asymptomatic people pass on the infection so looked at the people closest to them, have no social distancing, close contact, no masks, sharing meals, leisure activities etc and this is supposed to be worse than following a few randomly around outside.

Read the study yourself instead of relying on Snopes. JAMA Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis Zachary J. Madewell, PhD; Yang Yang, PhD; Ira M. Longini Jr, PhD; M. Elizabeth Halloran, MD, DSc; Natalie E. Dean, PhD

They don't quote the WA Child Institute study that included 3000 school students in a total 10,000 participants randomly tested, that found zero positives and no asymptomatic transfer.

They looked at the Chines study where two dozen scientists looked at how the virus did or did not impact 9,899,828 Wuhan residents between May 14 and June 1 — more than a month after the government lifted its lockdown to curb the outbreak.

The scientists found that, of Wuhan’s roughly 10 million residents, no one tested positive for COVID-19 and showed symptoms. Meanwhile, about 300 people tested positive but did not display any symptoms.

Then, using tracing technology, the research group analyzed the health conditions of 1,174 people who spent time with the 300 asymptomatic or presymptomatic patients. No one within that group of some 1,200 people tested positive.

So Snopes conclusion after evaluating the above information is ... In sum, while the studies proved the rate of transmission between presymptomatic or asymptomatic COVID-19 patients appeared to be lower than that of symptomatic patients, the research did not confirm that infected people carry no risk of spreading the virus. We rate this claim “False.”

Are you waking up yet Hawkie?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Its a shame stupidity isn’t asymptomatic. It’s a shame fear isn’t asymptomatic, it’s a shame selfishness isn’t asymptomatic. If it was, then we would have freedom and happiness

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

That is child abuse! I don't know how people allow it.

Dont show this to Dan, if so he probably has his new hotel quarantine strategy

 

[M Malice]

Madness, presumably no one who's goes to her restaurant is forced to go there.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

, Just so wrong.

https://thenationalpulse.com/breaki...RaE9ugX8pS2usVnMQcouKr_4uOYK2nvmzKw7lRa-mzjMQ

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

No doubt's Karen's will be out there.

 

[BlueE]

^ Ha, yeah, who knows?! No doubt we'd all hope Bossche is wrong

It's been interesting with some people coming out against Bossche, being a research co-ordinator of the Ebola vaccine programme at GALVI, is seen as an establishment vaccine supporter and so what he says can't be trusted!

Vanden Bossche’s theory which claims mass vaccination is “transforming a quite harmless virus into an uncontrollable monster” attracted a lot of interest. Naturally people were then eager to know if it had truth.

Three top-scientists give their thoughts, namely:

1. Dr Byram Bridle, Viral Immunologist
2. Dr Knut Wittkowski, Epidemiologist
3. Dr Mike Yeadon, Former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer

Mass Vaccination Will Breed Dangerous Variants – Fact or Fiction?

Vanden Bossche's theory is that mass vaccination will breed dangerous variants. Mike Yeadon, Knut Wittkowski, and Byram Bridle commented.

dryburgh.com

 

[BlueE]

I remember Kelly saying the vaccine won’t stop you getting covid or spreading it, it will prevent people from dying of it or getting severe symptoms. I have friends who are convinced it’s “out there” and the community is rife with asymptomatic cases.

I'm curious what State you are referring to here and if asymptomatic what is making your friends convinced COVID is out in the community?

 

[Hawk Dork]

The Rona is as dangerous as the flu (killed 300 less than a bad flu year in 2017 in Australia) and just like the flu affects the elderly with comorbidities. Those that want to stay in their

Because of lockdown

 

[BlueE]

Because of lockdown

Should we lockdown everything every winter when we get flu then? And definitely no spectators at the footy (maybe just no Hawk spectators as Freo don't have many in Melbourne anyway)!!

Many specialists say the lockdown delay getting herd immunity and keeps the virus around longer!

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I'm curious what State you are referring to here and if asymptomatic what is making your friends convinced COVID is out in the community?

Victoria. Dan keeps saying “This evil thing is out there” and they get reports that there are traces in sewage (as in other states also).

 

[Hawk Dork]

Should we lockdown everything every winter when we get flu then? And definitely no spectators at the footy (maybe just no Hawk spectators as Freo don't have many in Melbourne anyway)!!

Many specialists say the lockdown delay getting herd immunity and keeps the virus around longer!

no just when something as bad as Ronna hits
Vaccines will provide herd immunity with less damage to the economy and peoples health

 

[BlueE]

no just when something as bad as Ronna hits
Vaccines will provide herd immunity with less damage to the economy and peoples health

But it wasn't as bad as the flu in 2017, with 300 less deaths and was the same number of deaths from flu in 2019. That includes classification of a COVID death to include pneumonia even if there wasn't a positive COVID test (just symptoms) within 30 days of having symptoms.

Herd immunity would occur naturally with contact with the virus, especially by people who aren't elderly with comorbidities. Herd immunity also happens quickly when T Cell cross immunity occurs. It does as it was another lie to call SARS CoV 2 a "novel" corona virus, with 6 other human coronavirus in circulation that are known of.

 

[Hawk Dork]

But it wasn't as bad as the flu in 2017, with 300 less deaths and was the same number of deaths from flu in 2019. That includes classification of a COVID death to include pneumonia even if there wasn't a positive COVID test (just symptoms) within 30 days of having symptoms.

Herd immunity would occur naturally with contact with the virus, especially by people who aren't elderly with comorbidities. Herd immunity also happens quickly when T Cell cross immunity occurs. It does as it was another lie to call SARS CoV 2 a "novel" corona virus, with 6 other human coronavirus in circulation that are known of.

Chicken and the egg

Lockdown and the deaths

 

[BlueE]

Chicken and the egg

Lockdown and the deaths

No its not, it happens every year with some years worse than others. COVID-19 wasn't worse than 2017 and 2019 flus even though they got to classify pneumonia deaths (which many elderly with respiratory problems die of) as COVID-19!

Everyone in the world now recognises that the initial statically forecasts were completely wrong, and many thousands of medial specialists have warned lockdowns for everyone for everything, including school, have caused more problems than the virus and means it takes longer for herd immunity to be reached.

But you're welcome not to go to any Gold and Brown games again and tell everyone that does go, DO NOT flipping CHEER! You know, cause the Rona!

 

[BlueE]

 

[BlueE]

 

[Registered User]

Authorities Are Lying Through Their Teeth About the Deadly AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine

As you are no doubt aware, the new AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is currently at the centre of an ongoing global shit storm. Heralded as a life saver, it has since become far more famous for taking lives instead of saving them. In the UK alone, between 4 January 2021 and 7 March 2021, the...

anthonycolpo.com

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

I'm so glad we have all of these experts at all of the different news networks to help save lives.

It's basic science for those people who don't understand how they keep coming up with these numbers.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

I am somewhat sceptical of all the reports of exteme side effects and death from the vaccines and this is why.

On the basis that I am not convinced Covid is as bad as it is because I know only a handful of people that have had it (all overseas, no-one in Australia) and those people have recovered and symptoms were basically the same as a cold or flu, of the people that I know that have had the vaccine (again, only a handful and all overseas) none have had any side effects. If the media can exaggerate the effects of Covid they can also exaggerate the effects of the vaccine.

Does this means I will have it? No way. To take a vaccine for something with a 99.9% recovery rate is nonsensical.

Do I think there might be bad side effects, especially down the track? Quite possibly which is another reason to think carefully even if for some strange reason you would want to have it.

At this point though I see personally no real evidence of adverse side effects... BUT... it is early days and the sample size is very small.

 

[M Malice]

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I'm so glad we have all of these experts at all of the different news networks to help save lives.

It's basic science for those people who don't understand how they keep coming up with these numbers.

I also have it on good authority that people who visit sewerage plants and drink the waste water are 1000 x more likely to die from "Covid", and the likely hood of death rises exponentially if you walk slowly from the car park, particularly if you're wearing crotchless underwear while doing so.

 

[yebiga]

A cohort of scientists from across the world believe that there is a growing body of evidence that Covid-19 can cause diabetes in some patients.

Prof Francesco Rubino, from King’s College London, is leading the call for a full investigation into a possible link between the two diseases. Having seen a rise in both type 1 and type 2 diabetes in people who have caught coronavirus, some doctors are even considering the possibility that the virus ‒ by disrupting sugar metabolism ‒ could be inducing an entirely new form of diabetes.

Doctors suggest Covid-19 could cause diabetes

More than 350 clinicians report suspicions of Covid-induced diabetes, both type 1 and type 2

www.theguardian.com

seems the choice is get 2 jabs to not get CV19 or risk having to have a few jabs a day for life for you diabetes

There is growing body of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald may have used a Coronavirus Bullet to blow half of JFKs head right off. The fragments were than picked up by bats, Fauci caught the bats and has been using the specimens to enhance use of function ever since.

 

[Hawk Dork]

There is growing body of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald may have used a Coronavirus Bullet to blow half of JFKs head right off. The fragments were than picked up by bats, Fauci caught the bats and has been using the specimens to enhance use of function ever since.

Does it mention if the grassy knoll was a pangolin breeding mound or if Jack Ruby was working for big pharma and/or 5G