Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[M Malice]

I wont be bullied or coerced into taking this jab at all, Those people who choose to be vaccinated should feel fully protected & not worried about those who don't want to receive the jab to go & live the life they wish to.

My body, My choice

Yer that's always puzzled me, IMO most will willingly get the vaccine... if say 3% of the population don't get it what have the 97% that do got to worry about?

 

[GuzzLG]

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I wont be bullied or coerced into taking this jab at all, Those people who choose to be vaccinated should feel fully protected & not worried about those who don't want to receive the jab to go & live the life they wish to.

My body, My choice

Interesting choice of words.

Consequences for those that “fail to comply”.

Comply with what?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Yet covid cases were in a abundance and the flu wasnt...

The flu just disappeared like magic this year thanks to masks but also covid was out of control because not enough people wore masks. You people are beyond help. Serious mental illness

its amazing that a lesser virus is supressed when people are locked down and socially distanced and WFH and wash their hands more
only a a totally brain washed free thinker wouldnt see that

 

[zill]

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I wont be bullied or coerced into taking this jab at all, Those people who choose to be vaccinated should feel fully protected & not worried about those who don't want to receive the jab to go & live the life they wish to.

My body, My choice

Got to love how they narrow the argument about vaccinations down to conspiracy theories about microchips. Anybody who has concerns about the vaccine is a nutjob, and should be forcibly removed from society. The first line of the nuremburg code is voluntary informed consent. Yet anyone who doesn't go along with the current dogma is silenced. How can an individual be informed when any alternative view is deleted. Easy to see how the nazis and communists were able to commit such atrocities, they also relied on propaganda and the suppression of information.

 

[zill]

You can take the unsubstantiated BS in the Cahill video as truth - that’s your prerogative mate.
If she had crediblity she’d have acknowledged the current mRNA Vaccine should not be linked to the past versions.
But that doesn’t suit her narrative- that’s why I posted the interview with the inventor so you guys now have a balanced narrative.

I was just pointing out that what she said wasn't unsubstantiated, the fact check article merely twisted statements and lied by omission to suit their own agenda.

And if you want to talk about credibility, why has neil ferguson ever been interviewed, quoted or been in a position of influence regarding viruses. He has zero credibility, yet the world locked down due to the reports he was involved in. He predicted 200million deaths from bird flu, yet only 65 people died. Why did anyone listen to this prick, he has been wrong about every virus in the past, he is all 'the end is nigh' attention seeking, even to the point of ignoring the stay at home mandates he said were necessary for everyone else to follow. It's no wonder people are sceptical about covid when someone like him is being trotted out as an expert and influencing policy decisions.

 

[No SPIN]

I was just pointing out that what she said wasn't unsubstantiated, the fact check article merely twisted statements and lied by omission to suit their own agenda.

And if you want to talk about credibility, why has neil ferguson ever been interviewed, quoted or been in a position of influence regarding viruses. He has zero credibility, yet the world locked down due to the reports he was involved in. He predicted 200million deaths from bird flu, yet only 65 people died. Why did anyone listen to this prick, he has been wrong about every virus in the past, he is all 'the end is nigh' attention seeking, even to the point of ignoring the stay at home mandates he said were necessary for everyone else to follow. It's no wonder people are sceptical about covid when someone like him is being trotted out as an expert and influencing policy decisions.

the UK modeling was also wrong - but a forecast is just that, a prediction from available data.
That’s very different to Cahills video making absurd claims and BS statements.
Where is the evidence people will be dead in 7-10 years after getting the Vaccine?
It’s just BS, and you’re defending her.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

An elderly woman has died three hours after receiving her first Covid-19 jab in an aged care facility.

The 82-year-old nursing home resident was living at the Blue Care Yurana Aged Care Facility in Springwood, in Queensland, when she was reportedly given the Pfizer vaccine at 10am, The Courier Mail reported.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...YXObOe61muZBYNlD5bhdPFHOypxYPakanFESI5dMRnFYw

 

[yebiga]

completely wrong - more recent developments made a major leap forward and overcame the safety issues of the past.
This vaccine is generations ahead of those 20 years ago - but that doesn’t suit her narrative.

So yes, more BS.

And just for your edification here’s an interview with the inventor of mRNA vaccines describing the problem that was overcome.

Be a good lad and send it off to Prof Cahill.

The story of mRNA: How a once-dismissed idea became a leading technology in the Covid vaccine race

The story of mRNA began is a tale of personal perseverance, eureka moments in the lab, soaring expectations — and an unprecedented flow of cash in biotech.

www.statnews.com

I'm assuming you read that article? Whilst, the tech is extremely promising for treating any number of serious illnesses and who knows what else.
There is nothing in that article to suggest that these companies: moderna, pfizer et al - are actually confident of its efficacy or comfortable that the side effects will be acceptable.

Anyone reading that should be horrified as it confirms the suspicion that we are all being used as lab rats.
I get the enthusiasm by the researches and the company directors - the potential is revolutionary

Unfortunately, it all has the air of excessive bravado in the middle of a piss up.

 

[zill]

the UK modeling was also wrong - but a forecast is just that, a prediction from available data.
That’s very different to Cahills video making absurd claims and BS statements.
Where is the evidence people will be dead in 7-10 years after getting the Vaccine?
It’s just BS, and you’re defending her.

The uk modelling is the reason we are locked down. Predictions from ferguson and the imperial college of london in the past were much more absurd than anything that lady said, yet they are still called experts and we are supposed to trust them.

As for cahill, i couldn't care less about her, i just can't stand when people post these 'fact check' articles like they are incontrevertible proof. They are just propaganda, easily proven with a couple of minutes of googling.

I'm sure you're not stupid enough to think there would be evidence of people dying from the vaccine in 10 years time. We will have to wait and see i guess. Can you not even consider the idea that these vaccines aren't as safe as has been claimed, and people would be sceptical of taking them, without believing they are filled with microchips and bill gates dna?

 

[Tiger Toffee]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...YXObOe61muZBYNlD5bhdPFHOypxYPakanFESI5dMRnFYw

Nothing to worry about, it was most likely her old age or her existing medical condition that did her in as it states here.

• It's not clear whether the woman died from jab or another health complication

Amazing how this was never said in relation to covid.

 

[No SPIN]

The uk modelling is the reason we are locked down. Predictions from ferguson and the imperial college of london in the past were much more absurd than anything that lady said, yet they are still called experts and we are supposed to trust them.

As for cahill, i couldn't care less about her, i just can't stand when people post these 'fact check' articles like they are incontrevertible proof. They are just propaganda, easily proven with a couple of minutes of googling.

I'm sure you're not stupid enough to think there would be evidence of people dying from the vaccine in 10 years time. We will have to wait and see i guess. Can you not even consider the idea that these vaccines aren't as safe as has been claimed, and people would be sceptical of taking them, without believing they are filled with microchips and bill gates dna?

I expect her to offer reasonable justification for predictions about deaths. No scientist worth their salt makes prediction without data.
She is being irresponsibly alarmist.

And please feel free to point out why fact checking websites don’t offer balance to the continual misinformation published on the internet.
All the BS Conspiracy theories need to be challenged, so why not such websites for an alternative view.

 

[zill]

I expect her to offer reasonable justification for predictions about deaths. No scientist worth their salt makes prediction without data.
She is being irresponsibly alarmist.

And please feel free to point out why fact checking websites don’t offer balance to the continual misinformation published on the internet.
All the BS Conspiracy theories need to be challenged, so why not such websites for an alternative view.

Neil ferguson has been nothing but an alarmist of the worst kind, yet he is put up on a pedestal.

Fact checking websites are almost all BS, only serving to promote the agenda of whoever is funding them. Why the need to resort to fallacy to debunk 'conspiracy theories'? Surely the truth would suffice, yet your article resorted to smears and falsehoods, when the truth is, at least in WA, you can be forcibly vaccinated. Israel is also considering compulsory vaccination, so it's not really a conspiracy theory, she simply stated the truth. But it doesn't fit the agenda, so they had to resort to lies. Can't really trust a fact checker that lies and spreads misinformation, can you.

 

[M Malice]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...YXObOe61muZBYNlD5bhdPFHOypxYPakanFESI5dMRnFYw

But b bu but she had co morbidities and was 80+ years old so there is huge doubt that the vaccine had anything to do with it.

It's odd how collateral damage is fine and the risk is minimal when it comes to vaccines but when it's Covid every life matters and if you give your grandma a hug you're a granny killer.

 

[No SPIN]

Neil ferguson has been nothing but an alarmist of the worst kind, yet he is put up on a pedestal.

Fact checking websites are almost all BS, only serving to promote the agenda of whoever is funding them. Why the need to resort to fallacy to debunk 'conspiracy theories'? Surely the truth would suffice, yet your article resorted to smears and falsehoods, when the truth is, at least in WA, you can be forcibly vaccinated. Israel is also considering compulsory vaccination, so it's not really a conspiracy theory, she simply stated the truth. But it doesn't fit the agenda, so they had to resort to lies. Can't really trust a fact checker that lies and spreads misinformation, can you.

Cahill is the one lying - I’m holding her to account, and exposing Conspiracists as wholly naive in believing her BS.
Please free to offer an example of a fact checking website that has been wrong when debunking fringe theories and egregious lies, on COVID.

Or please feel free to point out where the link I offered was wrong in debunking Cahill.

 

[zill]

Or please feel free to point out where the link I offered was wrong in debunking Cahill.

I've already done that several times. You can be forcibly vaccinated within australia, your article says this is a lie. So the article is rubbish, what cahill said was correct and the "fact checker" straight up lied so they could continue to smear her. I think you are just being disingenuous at this point, either that or all the propaganda you consume has damaged your critical thought processes.

 

[No SPIN]

I've already done that several times. You can be forcibly vaccinated within australia, your article says this is a lie. So the article is rubbish, what cahill said was correct and the "fact checker" straight up lied so they could continue to smear her. I think you are just being disingenuous at this point, either that or all the propaganda you consume has damaged your critical thought processes.

didn’t you notice the article was published Jan and so before the WA laws?
How am I disingenuous, by exposing egregious lying about death in 7-10 years for people given the mRNA Vaccine, by a scientist with no data to support her claim.
It’s completely irresponsible, and alarmist.
To then compare blatant and calculated misinformation by a scientist no less, to a fact checking website is folly.

But please feel free to provide an example of such gross irresponsibility and misinformation by fact checking website

 

[zill]

didn’t you notice the article was published Jan and so before the WA laws?

You are really showing your ignorance here. WA didn't pass any recent laws besides declaring a state of emergency. The law was passed in 2016. Section 158 of the public health act 2016 in WA. I would post the link but I'm on my phone. So there is your proof of misrepresentation by a "fact check" website, they said all her claims were lies and conspiracies when they weren't. She also stated that no mrna vaccine had ever been licensed, another fact they claimed was a lie.

At what point do you accept that you are the one being lied to, and question the motives of the people lying to you.

 

[No SPIN]

You are really showing your ignorance here. WA didn't pass any recent laws besides declaring a state of emergency. The law was passed in 2016. Section 158 of the public health act 2016 in WA. I would post the link but I'm on my phone. So there is your proof of misrepresentation by a "fact check" website, they said all her claims were lies and conspiracies when they weren't. She also stated that no mrna vaccine had ever been licensed, another fact they claimed was a lie.

At what point do you accept that you are the one being lied to, and question the motives of the people lying to you.

please send the WA legislation from 2016.
But you are doing a very poor job in proving egregious lying and misrepresentations by scientist like Cahill can be compared to fact checking websites.
When I see a fact checking website suggest people will die 7-10 years after receiving an mRNA Vaccine then I’ll reconsider my position.
When you realize the level of misinformation by Conspiracists - 5G, Big Pharma, China intentional Covid release, mRNA causing permanent genetic changes, micro chips in Vaccine, the advent of fact checking has fertile ground to ply.
And again I ask you to offer an example of any fact checking website offering absurd and fanciful theories as FACT - like the Conspiracists.
And more importantly Fact Checking website offer retractions and corrections. I’ve never seen one from Conspiracists,

 

[Registered User]

Got to love how they narrow the argument about vaccinations down to conspiracy theories about microchips. Anybody who has concerns about the vaccine is a nutjob, and should be forcibly removed from society.

The condescending bollocks like that, labelling anyone slightly sceptical as a tinfoil hat-hearing lunatic, pisses me off as much as anything about the topic. If someone expresses a bit of concern about getting an experimental drug, Knut-heads like Greg K'hunt throw out crap like, "wah, wah, 5G....wair wair.... tinfoil hat....mind-control..", and he's so smug about it. To repeat myself, how 'unfortunate' it was that the death-jabs he's shilling put him hospital

 

[zill]

please send the WA legislation from 2016.
But you are doing a very poor job in proving egregious lying and misrepresentations by scientist like Cahill can be compared to fact checking websites.
When I see a fact checking website suggest people will die 7-10 years after receiving an mRNA Vaccine then I’ll reconsider my position.
When you realize the level of misinformation by Conspiracists - 5G, Big Pharma, China intentional Covid release, mRNA causing permanent genetic changes, micro chips in Vaccine, the advent of fact checking has fertile ground to ply.
And again I ask you to offer an example of any fact checking website offering absurd and fanciful theories as FACT - like the Conspiracists.
And more importantly Fact Checking website offer retractions and corrections. I’ve never seen one from Conspiracists,

PUBLIC HEALTH ACT 2016 - SECT 158

classic.austlii.edu.au

https://www.legislation.wa.gov.au/legislation/prod/filestore.nsf/FileURL/mrdoc_37099.pdf/$FILE/Public%20Health%20Act%202016%20-%20%5B00-e0-00%5D.pdf?OpenElement

So there is the proof. The article you linked called her a liar and conspiracy theorist, but there it is. Your so called "fact checkers" lied and misrepresented in order to further their agenda. A fact was stated, and "fact check" website calls it false, so they have no credibility. If they offer a retraction, please post it here in the thread. I won't hold my breath.

I look forward to seeing how you are going to spin this, your white-knighting of propaganda websites masquerading as the arbiters of truth is quite amusing, although terribly repetitive.

 

[zill]

The condescending bollocks like that, labelling anyone slightly sceptical as a tinfoil hat-hearing lunatic, pisses me off as much as anything about the topic. If someone expresses a bit of concern about getting an experimental drug, Knut-heads like Greg K'hunt throw out crap like, "wah, wah, 5G....wair wair.... tinfoil hat....mind-control..", and he's so smug about it. To repeat myself, how 'unfortunate' it was that the death-jabs he's shilling put him hospital

Thats the only way they can spin it. Having concerns about an experimental vaccine is perfectly reasonable, so they have to smear anyone questioning this with the title of "conspiracy theorist", like they are all posting on Qanon or something like that.

 

[No SPIN]

PUBLIC HEALTH ACT 2016 - SECT 158

classic.austlii.edu.au

https://www.legislation.wa.gov.au/legislation/prod/filestore.nsf/FileURL/mrdoc_37099.pdf/$FILE/Public%20Health%20Act%202016%20-%20%5B00-e0-00%5D.pdf?OpenElement

So there is the proof. The article you linked called her a liar and conspiracy theorist, but there it is. Your so called "fact checkers" lied and misrepresented in order to further their agenda. A fact was stated, and "fact check" website calls it false, so they have no credibility. If they offer a retraction, please post it here in the thread. I won't hold my breath.

I look forward to seeing how you are going to spin this, your white-knighting of propaganda websites masquerading as the arbiters of truth is quite amusing, although terribly repetitive.

Thanks for the link.

Your singular focus one element of that article is hardly a lethal indictment of Fact checking websites - you ignore the other 9.
Again I ask you to offer an example of egregious and demonstrably unhinged theories offerred by Fact Checking websites, that come close to the absurd Conspiracist claims.
Give me one Scientist quoted in a Fact Checking article, that would make the false, irresponsible and preposterous claim Cahill has, with death after 7-10 years after administration of an mRNA Vaccine.
Demonising Fact Checking while accepting Cahills lies is hypocritical.

And to further imply such websites do not debunk extreme views, but are designed as propaganda tools, is transparently lamentable anti-establishment posturing.

 

[BlueE]

But b bu but she had co morbidities and was 80+ years old so there is huge doubt that the vaccine had anything to do with it.

It's odd how collateral damage is fine and the risk is minimal when it comes to vaccines but when it's Covid every life matters and if you give your grandma a hug you're a granny killer.

Dying within hours of the injection is hard to deny it had nothing to do with it.

But that's exactly what they're saying even though the WHO says that anyone who died within a month of having symptoms of COVID-19 (don't even have to have a +ve test) had to put COVID 19 as the cause of death even if pneumonia was present.

I'm not convinced there are many other advanced aged that've died within days or weeks of their injections, because it's is easier to say "death by co-incidence", with a little time in-between.

Elderly Qld woman dies hours after receiving COVID-19 vaccine

Police have confirmed a resident of a Logan aged care facility in Queensland has died hours after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. It is understood the 82-year-old woman received the Pfizer vaccine, however, it is unclear if the vaccine is linked to the death given she suffered pre-existing health...

www.skynews.com.au

 

[Crankitup]

And please feel free to point out why fact checking websites don’t offer balance to the continual misinformation published on the internet.

Big Tech/Facebook has fact checking partnerships in place with Associated Press, Reuters, PolitiFact, FactCheck.org, Check Your Fact, Science Feedback and Lead Stories all part of the ....



Most of the fact checking websites have a leftist bias. Even Google search is biased.

 

[Registered User]

And then there's Snopes:

"Snopes.com main 'fact checker' is Kimberly LaCapria, whose blog 'ViceVixen' – according to the Daily Mail - says she is in touch with her 'domme side' and has posted on Snopes.com while smoking pot (I tried searching for LaCapria’s blog to verify these comments, but it seems it has since been removed.)

Despite claims Snopes is apolitical, LaCapria described herself as “openly left-leaning” and a liberal. She trashed the Tea Party as “teahadists.” She called Bill Clinton “one of our greatest” presidents. Snopes, by the way, is one of the so-called fact-checking organizations Facebook uses to arbitrate on 'fake news.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cludes-escort-pr0n-star-Vice-Vixen-domme.html