Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[No SPIN]

White privilege in its purest form guys

like I said, waving the white flag in debates using lame comedy is boring.

BTW: you’ve been bagging Big Pharma, exactly because of what you perceive are “crimes” in the west ie the home of White Privledge.

 

[No SPIN]

Because any synthetic substance that enters the body has an inflammatory response, it also has a alkaline altering effect turning the system acid.
Both which create disease. That’s common knowledge.

A huge generalization and irrelevant.

Given medication for hypertension diabetes, cancer, heart arrhythmia etc increase longevity compared to no treatment, then the alkalinity issues is irrelevant.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

And yet, here you are

Thanks to the pills and vaccinations

 

[BlueE]

like I said, waving the white flag in debates using lame comedy is boring.

BTW: you’ve been bagging Big Pharma, exactly because of what you perceive are “crimes” in the west ie the home of White Privledge.

You conveniently ignore that safe and effective medicines are not being "bagged", but being promoted by thousands of doctors, specialists and researchers around the world.

But these safe and lifesaving therapeutics aren't supported by Big Pharma, who have been accused in reports posted in here from 2 years ago and by highly qualified Australian and overseas specialists of influencing decisions on vaccines over safe and effective medications for their own profits.

You've confused mRNA injections with RNA vaccines, experimental injections with previously accepted methods of producing vaccines, have not read any of the original animal studies, peer reviewed research, .pdfs used by companies to get emergency approval, or any of the infamous early vaccine studies on other corona viruses on animals where pathogenic priming killed subjects, have no understanding on the blood clots with an immune response that attacks platelets which are nothing like blood clots from the contraceptive pill and seem to have no understanding of the proliferation of lifestyle diseases.

 

[Bender20]

A huge generalization and irrelevant.

Given medication for hypertension diabetes, cancer, heart arrhythmia etc increase longevity compared to no treatment, then the alkalinity issues is irrelevant.

You could have made a better point.

Asthma medication reduces the inflammatory response, and thank goodness we have it.
Yet asthma medication has the same effects, it creates inflammation.

The Acid reaction is relevant, it creates the environment for disease to flourish.

You mock nutrition, yet people end up where they are in life through doing the same thing. Yet the point your making is keep doing what your doing and take this pill.

 

[Bender20]

Y

Thanks to the pills and vaccinations

You left out all hail Lord Fauci and his Merry murderers.

 

[BlueE]

Thanks to the pills and vaccinations

No, thanks to sanitation and clean water. Already had that debate on here.

Do you realise still around1.6 million people died from diarrheal diseases globally and a large percentage of those were children. Diarrhea kills 2,195 children every day—more than AIDS, malaria, and measles combined. Diarrheal diseases account for 1 in 9 child deaths worldwide, making diarrhea the second leading cause of death among children under the age of 5.

SO how many children is COVID 19 killing a day?

There are many helpful antibiotics and safe and effective medications that have been developed. Both IVM and HCQ on the WHO essential medicine list. It's just a problem where these medications are found in peer reviewed research to be effective in preventing, reducing the severity and decreasing deaths of COVID 19, but are out of patent and not a source of profit for Big Pharm like new experimental injections are.

Global Diarrhea Burden | Global Water, Sanitation and Hygiene | Healthy Water | CDC

www.cdc.gov

 

[No SPIN]

You could have made a better point.

Asthma medication reduces the inflammatory response, and thank goodness we have it.
Yet asthma medication has the same effects, it creates inflammation.

The Acid reaction is relevant, it creates the environment for disease to flourish.

You mock nutrition, yet people end up where they are in life through doing the same thing. Yet the point your making is keep doing what your doing and take this pill.

Don’t be absurd - I have not mocked nutrition. I have simply made the point that much of Big Pharma exists because people have poor lifestyle - that’s not Big Pharmas fault.

 

[yebiga]

again - you have a very simplistic view of the world.
Implicit is that Big Pharma is the bogey man, which is just a cliche.
Does Big Pharma exist if ALL people exercised and had a healthy diet?
It is exactly because people have very poor lifestyle that Big Pharma exists - they find medicines to treat disease. They don’t invent the disease.

You can’t cure Arthritis with clothing and heating.

So let’s not kid ourselves that longevity has not been extended by progress in medicine, and Big Pharma.

please give me examples of “ to harm and pathologize out of existence”

Do we really need a pill for everything?

The real sickness is the 24/7 mind numbing nonsense on our hollywood screens. Just, turn it off!

No one - not even those like you who think you believe all this crap - actually believe it.
At the most fundamental level, we all know it's wall to wall dreck - a theatre of the absurd.
Like in the middle ages, you don't dare question the virgin birth - but do you believe it? You don't tell the mother of a new born, no matter what you might think, that her child is ugly as sin and deformed. But this last 12 months is just that - ugly as sin an abomination.

As we are social creatures, we are likely to take our vaccine and hope to hell it does not hurt us now or in the future. The alternative seems to be to believe the world is malevolent. That itself is for many worse than death. But there are other possibilities and answers - every generation gets stuff wrong. The earth is not flat, homosexuals are not evil, aboriginals are humans, gender is biology, courage and honesty empowers, fear and fawning disempowers.

If we hand over our sovereignty to the hollywood narratives - we don't need to think, we can feel connected and believe the entire world shares the same narratives. We have instant belonging and purpose. It gives us strength. We can than - on cue - condemn in number the heretics and reinforce the programming of these fragile fictions.

What we may not realise is that we have then become a commodity, produced by narratives to serve the purpose of its creators. We are already dead.
Our minds and lives scripted our conscious self defeated. We are in a suicidal war with ourselves - depression, anxiety, hopelessness, purposelessness is inevitable. We then take a pill to make it go away. Then alarm bells ring: cancer, heart disease, addiction, diabetes, obesity... We take more pills. We continue to breathe but are long dead.

 

[Bender20]

Don’t be absurd - I have not mocked nutrition. I have simply made the point that much of Big Pharma exists because people have poor lifestyle - that’s not Big Pharmas fault.

Pharma found people were becoming more proactive about there own health, so they purchased Health food and vitamin companies.
Then bringing inferior products to the market, which then gets poor MSM attention.

Pharma has a agenda, make money.
Nothing more.
You can't argue because they do nothing they are not at fault. They write the script.

 

[yebiga]

Thanks to the pills and vaccinations

You are 4 billion year miracle - vaccines and pills had nothing to do with it.

 

[No SPIN]

You conveniently ignore that safe and effective medicines are not being "bagged", but being promoted by thousands of doctors, specialists and researchers around the world.

But these safe and lifesaving therapeutics aren't supported by Big Pharma, who have been accused in reports posted in here from 2 years ago and by highly qualified Australian and overseas specialists of influencing decisions on vaccines over safe and effective medications for their own profits.

You've confused mRNA injections with RNA vaccines, experimental injections with previously accepted methods of producing vaccines, have not read any of the original animal studies, peer reviewed research, .pdfs used by companies to get emergency approval, or any of the infamous early vaccine studies on other corona viruses on animals where pathogenic priming killed subjects, have no understanding on the blood clots with an immune response that attacks platelets which are nothing like blood clots from the contraceptive pill and seem to have no understanding of the proliferation of lifestyle diseases.

I’ve debunked your theory that mRNA vaccines cause permanent genetic changes. I also posted a link to the inventor of mRNA Vaccine describing the early issues in the research you continually rely on, have been overcome.
I’ve adjusted “mild” blood clot incidence of the Pill from 1 in 1,000 to life threatening rate, of 1 in 25,000 to then suggests it is still at least 10 worse than the AZ Vaccine, and offer perspective for normal people in countering alarmist rhetoric like yours.
And it’s because of having a thorough understanding of lifestyle disease that I conclude that people are their own worst enemies, and not Big Pharma.

 

[No SPIN]

Pharma found people were becoming more proactive about there own health, so they purchased Health food and vitamin companies.
Then bringing inferior products to the market, which then gets poor MSM attention.

Pharma has a agenda, make money.
Nothing more.
You can't argue because they do nothing they are not at fault. They write the script.

Big Pharma bought Vitamin companies to make money, understanding the shift to self help, and natural health.
If it was a cynical move to destroy that industry, they would have bought the Vitamin Companies and then shut them down.

 

[No SPIN]

Do we really need a pill for everything?

The real sickness is the 24/7 mind numbing nonsense on our hollywood screens. Just, turn it off!

No one - not even those like you who think you believe all this crap - actually believe it.
At the most fundamental level, we all know it's wall to wall dreck - a theatre of the absurd.
Like in the middle ages, you don't dare question the virgin birth - but do you believe it? You don't tell the mother of a new born, no matter what you might think, that her child is ugly as sin and deformed. But this last 12 months is just that - ugly as sin an abomination.

As we are social creatures, we are likely to take our vaccine and hope to hell it does not hurt us now or in the future. The alternative seems to be to believe the world is malevolent. That itself is for many worse than death. But there are other possibilities and answers - every generation gets stuff wrong. The earth is not flat, homosexuals are not evil, aboriginals are humans, gender is biology, courage and honesty empowers, fear and fawning disempowers.

If we hand over our sovereignty to the hollywood narratives - we don't need to think, we can feel connected and believe the entire world shares the same narratives. We have instant belonging and purpose. It gives us strength. We can than - on cue - condemn in number the heretics and reinforce the programming of these fragile fictions.

What we may not realise is that we have then become a commodity, produced by narratives to serve the purpose of its creators. We are already dead.
Our minds and lives scripted our conscious self defeated. We are in a suicidal war with ourselves - depression, anxiety, hopelessness, purposelessness is inevitable. We then take a pill to make it go away. Then alarm bells ring: cancer, heart disease, addiction, diabetes, obesity... We take more pills. We continue to breathe but are long dead.

mate you don’t know anything about me, so keep absurd generalization of what I believe out of this debate.

Your tirade above about the ills of the West, have nothing to do with your misguided views on Big Pharma and are a transparent diversion given you’ve lost the debate.
That said I do agree with much of the social commentary in your tirade.

 

[Bender20]

Big Pharma bought Vitamin companies to make money, understanding the shift to self help, and natural health.
If it was a cynical move to destroy that industry, they would have bought the Vitamin Companies and then shut them down.

Mediherb, (New Zealand)the pinnacle of herb production in the world.
Pharma purchased and doubled the prices overnight.
Why shut them down when you can make them unattainable for the majority and produce a decent profit.

 

[Bender20]

I’ve debunked your theory that mRNA vaccines cause permanent genetic changes. I also posted a link to the inventor of mRNA Vaccine describing the early issues in the research you continually rely on, have been overcome.
I’ve adjusted “mild” blood clot incidence of the Pill from 1 in 1,000 to life threatening rate, of 1 in 25,000 to then suggests it is still at least 10 worse than the AZ Vaccine, and offer perspective for normal people in countering alarmist rhetoric like yours.
And it’s because of having a thorough understanding of lifestyle disease that I conclude that people are their own worst enemies, and not Big Pharma.

The way I see it you use an age old argumental tactic to win a debate.
Yet only the feeble minded would believe you are winning.

 

[Fwoy]

 

[BlueE]

I’ve debunked your theory that mRNA vaccines cause permanent genetic changes. I also posted a link to the inventor of mRNA Vaccine describing the early issues in the research you continually rely on, have been overcome.
I’ve adjusted “mild” blood clot incidence of the Pill from 1 in 1,000 to life threatening rate, of 1 in 25,000 to then suggests it is still at least 10 worse than the AZ Vaccine, and offer perspective for normal people in countering alarmist rhetoric like yours.
And it’s because of having a thorough understanding of lifestyle disease that I conclude that people are their own worst enemies, and not Big Pharma.

Hahahaha. I'm curious how you've debunked the theory that mRNA vaccine cause permanent genetic changes when you haven't read the studies that showed it did in animals and how with the current vaccines, animal studies to "prove" or disprove" either haven't been done or in the case of the pregnancy mice research is still "ongoing" and wasn't reported on in December 2020.

But you've proved it doesn't! So where is this research with your proof?

It's completely different clotting, directly related to the injections, not just different numbers so you again have shown you have no idea what you're talking about. One of the problems after linking the vaccine to the rare immune response that attacks platelets being discussed is because the technology AZ has used in developing it's injection with it's unknown spike protein has never been disclosed or published.

Why the vaccine might spark clotting is also unclear. It could be related to the technology AstraZeneca used in the vaccine or something about the coronavirus protein the shot uses, Adam Finn, a pediatrician and vaccine expert at the University of Bristol in England said in a call with reporters. “We just don’t know at this point.”

It's also shown to happen with other Big Pharma's COVID 19 injections like Johnson and Johnson.

And the number as Germany found, originally quoted by Dr Swan is 1 in 100,000 which is an estimated 500 deaths in people under 55 with the 50 mil doses we'd already ordered.

 

[No SPIN]

Hahahaha. I'm curious how you've debunked the theory that mRNA vaccine cause permanent genetic changes when you haven't read the studies that showed it did in animals and how with the current vaccines, animal studies to "prove" or disprove" either haven't been done or in the case of the pregnancy mice research is still "ongoing" and wasn't reported on in December 2020.

But you've proved it doesn't! So where is this research with your proof?

It's completely different clotting, directly related to the injections, not just different numbers so you again have shown you have no idea what you're talking about. One of the problems after linking the vaccine to the rare immune response that attacks platelets being discussed is because the technology AZ has used in developing it's injection with it's unknown spike protein has never been disclosed or published.

Why the vaccine might spark clotting is also unclear. It could be related to the technology AstraZeneca used in the vaccine or something about the coronavirus protein the shot uses, Adam Finn, a pediatrician and vaccine expert at the University of Bristol in England said in a call with reporters. “We just don’t know at this point.”

It's also shown to happen with other Big Pharma's COVID 19 injections like Johnson and Johnson.

And the number as Germany found, originally quoted by Dr Swan is 1 in 100,000 which is an estimated 500 deaths in people under 55 with the 50 mil doses we'd already ordered.

sorry mate - we had the debate about CRISPR as the only way to permanently change genes.
When I pressed you to supply a mechanism by which mRNA changes genes without using CRISPR , you provided a paper that explicitly said in the opening 2 paragraphs that mRNA vaccine can’t cause permanent genetic changes.
So the debate is over, and you are pedaling BS suggesting mRNA Vaccines can change our genome permanently.

what don’t you get about decreasing death from clots from the pill to 1 in 25,000 for life threatening clots,( from 1 in 1,000 in mild clots), as a comparison to even less likely AZ clots.

You are fine with wives, girlfriends and other significant women in your life taking this much much greater risk, but are freaking out with the AZ Vaccine.

It’s completely hypocritical.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I played poker at Skycity Adelaide on Friday night and it was like stepping back into pre-Covid life.
10 8-handed tables going with obviously no social distancing possible, didn't see anyone using the few sanitiser bottles available, no masks. If it wasn't for the rigorously-enforced QR check-in you'd describe it as, dare I say, normal.

Poker is one of the worst activities for spreading any kind of bug, equivalent to sitting at a table shaking hands with a bunch of strangers for hours on end. Indoor space, close proximity to the same people, constant rehandling of chips, cards, cash. It was nice to see people just considering that as a normal risk of undertaking life.

Proves the lock down policies worked
Try that in a country that was half arsed

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

like I said, waving the white flag in debates using lame comedy is boring.

BTW: you’ve been bagging Big Pharma, exactly because of what you perceive are “crimes” in the west ie the home of White Privledge.

Wow, do you actually think the opioid crisis is Western based only ?

Atleast attempt to educate yourself by looking up Pakistan and opioids before your mouth off

 

[Hawk Dork]

Wow, do you actually think the opioid crisis is Western based only ?

Atleast attempt to educate yourself by looking up Pakistan and opioids before your mouth off

 

[No SPIN]

Wow, do you actually think the opioid crisis is Western based only ?

Atleast attempt to educate yourself by looking up Pakistan and opioids before your mouth off

oh - so not white privilege as you previously said.
Make up your mind mate.

 

[BlueE]

sorry mate - we had the debate about CRISPR as the only way to permanently change genes.
When I pressed you to supply a mechanism by which mRNA changes genes without using CRISPR , you provided a paper that explicitly said in the opening 2 paragraphs that mRNA vaccine can’t cause permanent genetic changes.
So the debate is over, and you are pedaling BS suggesting mRNA Vaccines can change our genome permanently.

what don’t you get about decreasing death from clots from the pill to 1 in 25,000 for life threatening clots,( from 1 in 1,000 in mild clots), as a comparison to even less likely AZ clots.

You are fine with wives, girlfriends and other significant women in your life taking this much much greater risk, but are freaking out with the AZ Vaccine.

It’s completely hypocritical.

You provided information on one type of patented genetic editing but you haven't related it to the genetically modified organisms created by Oxford AZ, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer or Moderna because none of those companies have published what the genetic information or the make up of their spike proteins that their injections contain.

The debate has only gone on in your own head with no relationship to the reality of COVID injections.

If you've just talking about blood problems or clots (don't know why) and and not specific blood clots caused by rare immune response that attacks platelets directly related to the injections, then there are 10,000 reports of those just in the recent EU reports I linked. Could be talking 1 in 100 or 1 in 10 for those.

Guess you didn't access those original numbers as well?

 

[No SPIN]

You provided information on one type of patented genetic editing but you haven't related it to the genetically modified organisms created by Oxford AZ, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer or Moderna because none of those companies have published what the genetic information or the make up of their spike proteins that their injections contain.

The debate has only gone on in your own head with no relationship to the reality of COVID injections.

If you've just talking about blood problems or clots (don't know why) and and not specific blood clots caused by rare immune response that attacks platelets directly related to the injections, then there are 10,000 reports of those just in the recent EU reports I linked. Could be talking 1 in 100 or 1 in 10 for those.

Guess you didn't access those original numbers as well?

I’ve made it clear I’m speaking about. Life threatening blood clots. Such clots are far far more likely with the Pill than AZ Vaccine.

I’ve asked you to provide a mechanism explaining how mRNA Vaccines can permanently change human genome.
You digress with irrelevancy.
So offer the mechanism or stop with the misinformation.
It’s simple mate.