Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

So what are the odds for Mothers Day.

Queensland $2.47
Victoria $1.23

Punters have come hard for the vics to equal the snap lockdown score between the 3 states at 2 a piece.

Maybe Tassie's turn seem it expires on May 8th.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/08/a-covid-19-vaccine-script-tv-shows-use-to-fight-misinformation.html

Health professionals are working closely with Hollywood showrunners, writers and producers to write Covid-19 vaccines into scripts as part of ongoing efforts to fight hesitancy and misinformation about being vaccinated.

I find it funny how it's always misinformation when it's not coming from a msm source, So much propaganda has been pumped out 24/7 from the msm for over 12 months now.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Is it paranoia, or genuinely not needing the vax? Genuine question. I have never in my 30 years on the planet had a flu vax. No need to rely on it, no one should. Go for a walk and eat right, it works. So at that point, even 1 negative effect outweighs my thinking where I'm fine anyway. Most importantly of all and something the covid lovers seem to forget. From the experts mouths "most people will get it and not know"

spare me the "it's to help others" BS. That is utter, unquantifiable nonsense.

Younger Brazilians are increasingly being affected by Covid-19, with those in their 20s showing the greatest increase in deaths so far this year, according to a report published by government biomedical institute Fiocruz.


Reuters reports:

It found that the number of Covid-19 deaths among people between the ages of 20 and 29 jumped more than 1,000% between the start of this year - before Brazil’s vaccination campaign began - and the first half of April.

Deaths among those 30 to 39 rose 819%, while fatalities among the 40 to 49-year-old group jumped 933%, the study found.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

The madness continues with no end in sight.

At what point do you realise the lemmings who support this are genuinely incapable of independent thought?

Not as in 'ha ha they're silly' but as in literally they are incapable of independent thought.

 

[Hawk Dork]

The madness continues with no end in sight.

At what point do you realise the lemmings who support this are genuinely incapable of independent thought?

Not as in 'ha ha they're silly' but as in literally they are incapable of independent thought.

are the lemmings the ones who are willing to jump off the cliff and die?

 

[Run n Spread]

Younger Brazilians are increasingly being affected by Covid-19, with those in their 20s showing the greatest increase in deaths so far this year, according to a report published by government biomedical institute Fiocruz.


Reuters reports:





Deaths among those 30 to 39 rose 819%, while fatalities among the 40 to 49-year-old group jumped 933%, the study found.

Bullshit. Brazil's death rate the last 5 years has seen a steady 1.3% growth rate and was 6.1 in 2020. Given a population of 211to 213 million that gives the deaths at approximately 1.4 million a year. For your predictions to be true you're saying 14 to 15 million Brazilians died in 3 months at a rate of 300k a day. So if this continues a quarter of Brazil's population will die in 2021???
Is that your argument?
And given no measures and pandemics and flus last that Brazil's population will be wiped out by end of 2024?
Question given your figures do you believe without intervention a quarter of Brazil's population will die this year without intervention?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Bullshit. Brazil's death rate the last 5 years has seen a steady 1.3% growth rate and was 1.6 in 2020. Given a population of 211to 213 million that gives the deaths at approximately 1.4 million a year. For your predictions to be true you're saying 14 to 15 million Brazilians died in 3 months at a rate of 300k a day. So if this continues a quarter of Brazil's population will die???
Is that your argument?

Take a deep breath and re-read the %ers
Your getting confused with over all death rates, not the current increases in deaths amongst younger people.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Two cases of human-to-cat transmission of COVID-19 have been identified by British researchers.

https://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/7222840/human-to-cat-covid-transmission-found/

 

[Run n Spread]

Take a deep breath and re-read the %ers
Your getting confused with over all death rates, not the current increases in deaths amongst younger people.

You posted the figures. A thousand percent increases means 10 times the deaths.Im just crunching the numbers and leading to it's conclusions. If you want to look at increases you still need the initial number.
That is calculated from yearly death rates.
Once you have the figure you can then apply your increases and see how out of proportion they are.
I'm guessing death increases would be higher in old people or does this covid only affect the young?
So if you're not going to take original figures were back to the argument of 2 pages a go.
Where you can just pull a figure out of thin air and apply an increase.
I predict 1 death for Brazil this May any % increase I'll jump at and yell Covid.
Not me panicking. I'm just following the sequence.
It's you parroting fear mongering and chucking figures out without context.
The slightest bit of scrutiny shows your argument full of holes

 

[Run n Spread]

The madness continues with no end in sight.

At what point do you realise the lemmings who support this are genuinely incapable of independent thought?

Not as in 'ha ha they're silly' but as in literally they are incapable of independent thought.

Two ways to interpret that.
1 How we live as a society. Panicked stressed insecure so are too busy to think straight. Make panicked calls and want the government to think for them
2 Realise it ain't about a virus but people pushing an agenda and a chance to weird power.

 

[Run n Spread]

The madness continues with no end in sight.

At what point do you realise the lemmings who support this are genuinely incapable of independent thought?

Not as in 'ha ha they're silly' but as in literally they are incapable of independent thought.

What's it like in Europe?
Will be interesting in Melbourne. Bloody freezing here in Melbourne already and a shitload of people with colds already.
On the positive thou testing centres aren't been inandated. So hysteria may have passed. See what July brings as this will be a bad flu season. Will people shit themselves or treat it like 2017 or 93?

 

[Run n Spread]

So what are the odds for Mothers Day.

Queensland $2.47
Victoria $1.23

Punters have come hard for the vics to equal the snap lockdown score between the 3 states at 2 a piece.

Qld x2 Vic WA already had the snap in 21.
Leaves SA (thou the laughable way they botched the argument last Nov fresh) NSW TAS.
Won't be TAS as too small and battling already. NT too small to gain traction and laughable locking down stations and the outback.
Possible NSW but they may push back on floods as they need recovery
I'll go an outsider with ACT

 

[No SPIN]

The sad thing also I’m finding when people mention Brazils death total they keep going on about if they locked down then those deaths would disappear. Its mindnumbingly idiotic, because the actual truth was if Brazil locked down deaths would simply transfer from Covid to starvation. Oxford have predicted that 12,000 more people will die a day from starvation in 2021 with Brazil the epicentre, and this is despite the fact Brazil still had one of the best performing economies in the world in 2020

Now Australia and NZ aside, Brazils economy outperformed the whole world really with -3 percent GDP for the year. Despite this they addEd 10 million to those suffering starvation. If they went towards that 12-15 percent gdp decline Europe had they would be pushing 50 mill and the death total for that would be catastrophic, even moreso with children being more impacted

The white privilege is so strong amongst Hawk Dork and NO SPIn they cannot fathom the concept that for a lot of people in the world it’s work or die as a choice, as opposed to there, work or stay home, get 750 a week, get UberEats rather then going to th restaurant and use Amazon instead of going to Myers as the decisions and sacrifices made.

If the world put as much effort into starvation as we did Covid we would save tens of millions more people then we will with our current path in life

it’s clear you like the like sound of your own deluded voice - please point to any of my posts that has supported long term lockdowns.
BTW - have you found a new “they” yet, or are you still naively sticking to the embarrassing China GDP theory.

 

[No SPIN]

No it means the injections are giving them a COVID variant that they're passing on to other people.

An experienced epidemiologist did an in depth analysis, I posted a while back, when the UK "variant" first started showing up and showed a strong correlation to the injections.

how About a link?

 

[maryjames]

Crazy times.

 

[No SPIN]

what a dumb conclusion- you do realize Dec was also the start of winter?
Just another example of the naive misinformation you constantly offer this debate.

 

[WA ROO]

FMD, I reckon Greta pimping the death jabs will more harm than good for their cause

Greta does what her handlers tell her to do

 

[BlueE]

Younger Brazilians are increasingly being affected by Covid-19, with those in their 20s showing the greatest increase in deaths so far this year, according to a report published by government biomedical institute Fiocruz.

Reuters reports:

It found that the number of Covid-19 deaths among people between the ages of 20 and 29 jumped more than 1,000% between the start of this year - before Brazil’s vaccination campaign began - and the first half of April.

Deaths among those 30 to 39 rose 819%, while fatalities among the 40 to 49-year-old group jumped 933%, the study found.

the South African didnt the UK didnt the Brazilian didnt and now the Indian didnt

Sth African did, UK did, Brazilian did and now India has shown a direct correlation with COVID cases and deaths to the introduction of the COVID injections.

Hawky will just ignore the rest of the post but some might want some information that refutes what I think he's claiming.

There was a 30 min video I posted of a in depth analysis by a respected epidemiologist from the UK (the one where he got his 12 year old son to listen to make sure it wasn't that complicated for people to understand) that directly related the areas in the UK with the high incidence of the "new variant" to the introduction of the COIVD injection.

Recent modelling I also recently posted shows UK expects 60% of its vaccinated population to be COVID positive.

South Africa was in the original AZ test groups. However they conducted an independent study of 2000 of their own months later, to confirm it's effectiveness before approving it for use. This research found that the variant was already the main strain in SA. The disturbing result of their research showed the AZ injections did not work as there was no significant difference between the placebo wrt the new variant, and they banned AZ COIVD injections.

Your own Reuters report from Brazil, shows a direct correlation between the introduction of COVID injections after the start of this year and the first half of April, to a more that 1000% increase in COVID deaths in 20 to 29 year olds, 819% increase in 30 to 39 year olds and 933% increase in 40 to 49 year olds.

India has diagrams and graphs that show exactly the same correlation between the introduction of COVID injections and a huge increase in COVID deaths. India also had the comparison to the normal, expected bell curve of deaths from COVID (or an flu virus), when they were just using IVM+ Zn + antibiotic therapeutics, while Brazil never mass introduced therapeutics as far as I know.

Note that India use AZ which they can manufacture and banned Pfizer because Pfizer refused to allow them to test 2000 subjects before approving, and at least one other injection.


Note that both Bihar and Utter Pradesh had reduced their cases to nothing before the jab was introduced and a subsequent volcanic increase occurred.

India has so far administered over 114 million Covid vaccine doses with 14.3 million fully vaccinated, which is about 1% of its population of 1.39 billion, and has a strong correlation to the introduction of the injections to a dramatic increase in cases and deaths of COVID

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst



Note that before the COVID injections were introduced India had followed a normal pattern of deaths from a virus and by the start of Feb deaths were below 100 a day or 1 in 139 million, heading to zero. While deaths per day have increased to 1000 which is close to the height their worst, it's still only 1 in 13.9 million.

 

[Bender20]

what a dumb conclusion- you do realize Dec was also the start of winter?
Just another example of the naive misinformation you constantly offer this debate.

Brutal winters, dumb conclusion.

Portugal experiences a Mediterranean climate which is why it generally has mild to warm winters. The average high rises up to 15°C during the daytime. Although, you must keep some warm clothes with you as the temperature drops to 8°C at night.13 Dec 2018

 

[No SPIN]

Brutal winters, dumb conclusion.

Portugal experiences a Mediterranean climate which is why it generally has mild to warm winters. The average high rises up to 15°C during the daytime. Although, you must keep some warm clothes with you as the temperature drops to 8°C at night.13 Dec 2018

winter is winter whether in the Med or Siberia.
Flu or COVID doesn’t take a U turn at the Med every year.
That you even try this absurd tangent shows how shallow your thinking is on this issue.
Don’t waste our time with such inanity.
The graph correlates with Winter beginning and the precipitous fall with winter ending - or did they stop jabs?

We know the jabs didn’t stop - so therefore your theory is just bunkum.

Anything else?

 

[Bender20]

winter is winter whether in the Med or Siberia.
Flu or COVID doesn’t take a U turn at the Med every year.
That you even try this absurd tangent shows how shallow your thinking is on this issue.
Don’t waste our time with such inanity.
The graph correlates with Winter beginning and the precipitous fall with winter ending - or did they stop jabs?

We know the jabs didn’t stop - so therefore your theory is just bunkum.

Anything else?

Tangent? Since when have I gone off on a tangent?

 

[BlueE]

Crazy times.

This needs emphasising, that a five month old baby died a painful and miserable death with symptoms including emotional distress, pyrexia, rash, increased hepatic enzyme and TTP directly related to the Pfizer injection through breastmilk, his mother had three days earlier.

I can't see how the spin doctors can say this is just a death by co-incidence, with a diagnosis of thrombotic, thrombocytopenic, purpura (TTP). There were never comprehensive animal studies reported completed or reported on, one know if this will occur in 100% of cases with breast feeding mothers. So where is the publicity and warnings as the baby died a month ago, or are they just using humans babies as guinea pigs?

25,000 women are only now being asked about menstrual abnormalities associated with the injections and no one knows what long term fertility problems may occur.

In the UK women at any stage of a pregnancy were previously advised not to get a AZ jab due to lack of data on its impact, but now apparently the US which has never issued any authorisation for AZ to be used says its safe and UK has changed it advise and said get the jab while pregnant "with data strongly indicating both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are safe."

I'm curious because their owns data shows a Pfizer jab can kill a 5 month baby through breastmilk, so how do they think younger babies or unborn can survive?

https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=B2B8EF9BEA9D9CBAE084F162C1AE

 

[No SPIN]

Tangent? Since when have I gone off on a tangent?

when you laughingly tried to suggest winter in Portugal is too mild for COVID to explain deaths.
Just rubbish.
My theory explains the decline in deaths also correlating with Winter ending.
What about your jab theory - jabs continued but the death rate dropped.
How does that fit your theory of the jab causing deaths?

Clearly it doesn’t so the theory is bunkum.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Looks like Einstein's definition of insanity is alive and well.

The problem with McClown is that he had 14-15 months to do something different and he still does the same thing over and over and over. Erecting a hard boarder all this time stopped any learnings going on. He's had his head in the sand for the last year and a quarter.

 

[Bender20]

when you laughingly tried to suggest winter in Portugal is too mild for COVID to explain deaths.
Just rubbish.
My theory explains the decline in deaths also correlating with Winter ending.
What about your jab theory - jabs continued but the death rate dropped.
How does that fit your theory of the jab causing deaths?

Clearly it doesn’t so the theory is bunkum.

So Covid only gets bad in winter, check.