Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Kurve]

Does HIV have a 99.97 survival rate? And the 0.03% that might be vulnerable be 84 years of age?

Survival rates are now quite high but probably more likely to kill a person the older they get.

So, would you be upset if your new partner didn't tell you they were HIV positive? How about if they had hepatitis?

 

[Steele13]

Melbourne has the highest density living in Australia, it's even higher than Sydney and we're going in to a very cold winter where people huddle and entertain indoors. Managing a covid outbreak was always going to be harder than the other states.

Yes all true. I'm just saying if the other states didn't slam their borders shut at the first sign of trouble, we could try to get on top of it without the need for locking down every single time

 

[Kurve]

Where is the link for that claim? Not only did the meta analysis of almost 78,000 subjects have a statistically zero chance of asymptomatics spreading COVID, Wuhan analysis of 10 million showed the same.

The only way someone without symptoms could possible spread COVID is if they've just have COVID injections.

There's a few instances where this in fact did happen.

How a superspreader at choir practice sickened 52 people with COVID-19

A superspreader at a choir practice gave COVID-19 to 52 other people, 2 of whom died.

www.livescience.com

'Superspreaders' are real and we've had several in Australia. Here's what the experts say

What is a superspreader? Why are they important? And are we seeing many superspreader events in Australia?

www.abc.net.au

 

[Kurve]

Yes all true. I'm just saying if the other states didn't slam their borders shut at the first sign of trouble, we could try to get on top of it without the need for locking down every single time

I don't like it either.

 

[BlueE]

What is the cycle threshold Vic use on PCR tests?

Doherty Institute recommended cycles 38 and over last June.

They also found with cross reactively testing, other common virus were found and recommended if SARS CoV 2 was found, the sample should be retested for them. However they acknowledged that probably wouldn't happen.

"Specificity was further evaluated on a subset of 24 samples for test cross-reactivity to other common respiratory virus agents, 6 samples (influenza virus A, coronavirus-OC43, coronavirus-229E, adenovirus type-5, parainfluenza type-1, rhinovirus) in two labs tested positive for SARS CoV 2 at Ct 38"

I've questioned before whether all states follow their recommendation, whether some have two tiers and why samples couldn't be retested for the common viruses like they recommended when they bother to genomic test the samples?

Post-market validation of the Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI) SARS-CoV-2 Real Time PCR platform

This report presents the results of post-market validation of the Beijing Genomics Institute SARS-CoV-2 Real time PCR test kit.

www.health.gov.au

 

[Kurve]

All the justification for this is asymptomatic super spreaders. Yet I'm yet to see scientific proof exists. Sure quarentine the sick (actual sick) not healthy people who get around.
Whole things a farce. If you're that desperate for a lockdown petition for a 3 day work week increased dole or part time work. This is not about public health

 

[burge13]

If your new partner had HIV and didn't tell you, you'd be okay with that?

New low here. Comparing it HIV...

The cult arent brainwashed though, no. Very level headed

 

[BlueE]

There's a few instances where this in fact did happen.

How a superspreader at choir practice sickened 52 people with COVID-19

A superspreader at a choir practice gave COVID-19 to 52 other people, 2 of whom died.

www.livescience.com

'Superspreaders' are real and we've had several in Australia. Here's what the experts say

What is a superspreader? Why are they important? And are we seeing many superspreader events in Australia?

www.abc.net.au

Not asymptomatic.

This person had cold-like symptoms starting on March 7, but didn't realize it was the new coronavirus until a test later confirmed the diagnosis, which placed the patient within this infectious period during the March 10 practice."

The practice lasted 2.5 hours. Within days (an average of three), people began showing symptoms. Most of the choir's members are older women, and women comprised 85% of the choir cases. The median age of those infected was 69 years old.

However, only 32 had a test to confirm the illness; the other 20 likely had it, based on their symptoms. Most of the patients (67.9%) did not have any underlying conditions. However, the three singers who were hospitalized had two or more underlying medical conditions. Two of those patients later died.

Even symptomatic security guards that had "highly infectious mutants" spread to no one in their households or only one or two in the community despite visiting many places.

 

[BlueE]

Deflecting. Not the point.

 

[Kurve]

Deflecting. Not the point.

That post wasn't to you, it was to RunnSpread as an explainer in how science is tracing where clusters have sprung from and how it's found superspreaders.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Survival rates are now quite high but probably more likely to kill a person the older they get.

So, would you be upset if your new partner didn't tell you they were HIV positive? How about if they had hepatitis?

It wouldn’t be a issue under Covid norm rules as both of us wouldnt be allowed to have unprotected sex anyway unless we prove we are not HIV positive and if proven in QLD we gotta wear the condom still anyway

Just make babies in test tubes under Ana‘s HIV policies. More money for big pharmaceutical so all good I suppose

 

[Registered User]

 

[Kurve]

Not asymptomatic.

This person had cold-like symptoms starting on March 7, but didn't realize it was the new coronavirus until a test later confirmed the diagnosis, which placed the patient within this infectious period during the March 10 practice."

The practice lasted 2.5 hours. Within days (an average of three), people began showing symptoms. Most of the choir's members are older women, and women comprised 85% of the choir cases. The median age of those infected was 69 years old.

However, only 32 had a test to confirm the illness; the other 20 likely had it, based on their symptoms. Most of the patients (67.9%) did not have any underlying conditions. However, the three singers who were hospitalized had two or more underlying medical conditions. Two of those patients later died.

Even symptomatic security guards that had "highly infectious mutants" spread to no one in their households or only one or two in the community despite visiting many places.

Cold like symptoms, runny nose and sneezing aren't actually common to covid but whatever.

How about this woman then?

A woman with no symptoms returns to China from the US and is self-quarantining at home, but after using the lift in her building alone sparks a cluster of 71 cases.

'Superspreaders' are real and we've had several in Australia. Here's what the experts say

What is a superspreader? Why are they important? And are we seeing many superspreader events in Australia?

www.abc.net.au

 

[Registered User]

Suramin shows promise as COVID-19 treatment

A new study published on the preprint server bioRxiv reports the elucidation of the mechanism of inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 by a non-nucleotide inhibitor called suramin. This is the first such compound to be shown to have such activity and shows promise for use as a repurposed drug against COVID-19.

www.news-medical.net

 

[Kurve]

The only way someone without symptoms could possible spread COVID is if they've just have COVID injections.

Really? Do you have a link?

 

[zill]

Social Media is owned by Private Companies. Facebook has blocked false and derogatory posts by vindictive Customers on Business face book pages.
Heaven forbid they should ban Trump and others.
They are a private Company, just like the Herald Sun - which is not going to publish every letter it receives.

So this is not a freedom of speech issue or censorship - it’s Private enterprise choosing to publish what it sees fit.

Why are you ok with them deleting posts with legitimate medical information? I don't use facebook but many people get all their news there. Deleting posts that claim there are side effects to the vaccine such as blood clots is anti-science, but they have you believing that is just a conspiracy theory.

 

[Werewolf]

Just a reminder that while getting emotional about lockdowns and restrictions is understandable, abusing posters nearly always kicks off a slanging match which just creates more problems for us mods, so don't do it. Log off for an hour if you have to. Cheers

 

[Run n Spread]

Sorry wtf was that? They're trying to compare the genetic signature against the original source (without any proof of patient zero) and then somehow contact trace from there???
How does that make any sense? Yet contaminate the pool after I've watched 3 times but will watch again. Suspect thou it's more msm bullshit but will try again

 

[Run n Spread]

Sorry but what the **** was that?
DNA sequencing outlines the structure how does it get to the source? Need further previous samples.
Then if you even trace the source how do you determine spread of fingerprint data?
Sorry that's just a 90 second sensationalized clip without subatance

 

[BlueE]

Really? Do you have a link?

Research has been linked as well as many graphs showing strong correlations of exponential increases in COIVD deaths to introduction of COVID injections.

 

[Kurve]

Sorry but what the fu** was that?
DNA sequencing outlines the structure how does it get to the source? Need further previous samples.
Then if you even trace the source how do you determine spread of fingerprint data?
Sorry that's just a 90 second sensationalized clip without subatance

I thought it was pretty good actually and I can't explain it any clearer. Que sera.

 

[Kurve]

Research has been linked as well as many graphs showing strong correlations of exponential increases in COIVD deaths to introduction of COVID injections.

None of the vaccines contain the live virus.

 

[BlueE]

Cold like symptoms, runny nose and sneezing aren't actually common to covid but whatever.

How about this woman then?

A woman with no symptoms returns to China from the US and is self-quarantining at home, but after using the lift in her building alone sparks a cluster of 71 cases.

'Superspreaders' are real and we've had several in Australia. Here's what the experts say

What is a superspreader? Why are they important? And are we seeing many superspreader events in Australia?

www.abc.net.au

You give one example of supposidedy asymptomatic spread when it wasn't and the other of someone supposedly returning to China from overseas and her infecting 72 others six and nine days after she tested -ve. It would be highly unusual that the patients were infected by this person and not at the hospital or somewhere else. It doesn't fit the 10 million subjects tested after the lockdown in Wuhan, so something strange going on not supported by research.

On March 19, 2020, case-patient A0 returned to Heilongjiang Province from the United States; she was asked to quarantine at home. She lived alone during her stay in Heilongjiang Province. She had negative SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid and serum antibody tests on March 31 and April 3.

On March 26, B1.1’s mother, B2.2, and her mother’s boyfriend, B2.3, visited and stayed in B1.1’s home all night. On March 29, B2.2 and B2.3 attended a party with patient C1.1 and his sons, C1.2 and C1.3.

On April 2, C1.1 suffered a stroke and was admitted to hospital 1. His sons, C1.2 and C1.3, cared for him in ward area 1 of the hospital. On April 7, patient B2.3 first noted symptoms of COVID-19. He tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on April 9, the first confirmed case in this cluster. His close contacts, B1.1, B2.1, B2.2, and C1.1, subsequently tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on April 9 or 10. Patient C1.1 was quarantined in hospital 2 when he tested positive on April 9.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Alternatively, if Victoria just carried on and let it spread we'd be locked out of every other state for the next two years at least. Business would be absolutely destroyed and the state bankrupted well before then.

True. We don’t want you tainted Vics in Qld....


Not very funny joke, ppl

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I cant quite put my finger on why people arent bothering getting the jab. I mean, they dont stop you getting it, it doesnt stop you passing it on, they dont keep you out of quarantine if someone else is sick. Whats the effing point

You are less likely to die ...