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No I was referring specifically to comparing total deaths from COVID in 2020 in higher age groups, to deaths in the same age groups from flu in previous years. Then comparing COVID, flu and pneumonia in 2020, to flu and pneumonia from 2017 and 2019.
2020 COVID-19 = 908 deaths. Average age of death = 85.
2020 COVID+flu = 950 deaths
2019 flu = 948 deaths. Average age of death = 86
2017 flu = 1255 deaths. Average age of death = 86
2020 flu+ pneumonia = 1,952 deaths due to influenza and pneumonia recorded from 1 January to 24 November 2020. (not even top 20 in cause of death?)
2019 flu+ pneumonia = 4124 deaths (9th leading cause of death)
2017 flu + pneumonia = 4269 deaths (9th leading cause of death)
2020 COVID + flu+ pneumonia = 2860 deaths (17th highest cause of death based on figures from 2019?)
ABS Total numbers of deaths from flu and pneumonia in 2010, 2014 and 2019, when it went from the 15th most common cause of death to the 9th with an average age of death of 88.8 years.
From age 70 numbers of deaths increased progressively. The age group with the highest number of deaths was 90-94 years with 312 deaths recorded. This aligns with evidence from the Department of Health reporting that the elderly were most susceptible to the influenza strain in 2017 (NISS, 2017).
For both males and females, the highest rate of influenza death occurred in those aged over 95 years, with 454.7 and 409.9 deaths per 100,000 persons recorded respectively.
Deaths from COVID are the same or less than a bad flu year, affecting the same older age groups, and having similar number of co-morbidities. When grouped with pneumonia, there were 2000 less deaths than 2017 and 2019, with the same average age of death! WHO stipulated in 2020, anyone that died with Pneumonia, that had symptoms or a positive test for COVID 19, to be classified as a COVID 19 death, so this is an important figure.
I've read the early HCQ studies, two had toxic doses, two had fraudulent data and both were retracted from the respective journals (Lancet and NEJM, so much for standards and peer review. The WHO quoted one before it was retracted, then one study which used HCQ in end of life care in veterans hospital said it made no difference which is not disputed, as this is clearly an incorrect treatment at that stage of the infection.
I've posted the links to hundreds of studies published and the Prof Clancy evaluation in Quadrant which overwhelmingly show HCQ is safe and effective with early use in. Most people here have read them, but you obviously haven't. It's also IVM + Zn which is just as good if not better in the peer reviewed research that has also been linked here.
There is a lot of research on memory TCells giving at high cross protection immunity from the other 6 corona virus's. This immunity is still found to protect after 17 years in the case of SARS CoV 1.
However in the vaccine trials, one vaccine only produced an antibody reaction lasting maximum of 3 months and with no Tcell reaction. One produced helper Tcells as well as antibodies which was promising. but no indication of memory TCells. All the subjects tested that contracted SARS CoV 2, developed memory TCells. Those with previous corona viruses still had ,memory TCells up to 17 years, which was the earliest tested, and probably for life.
Johnson & Johnson injection is the same simian adenovector vaccine as AZ and recently approved, experimental Ebola vaccine. Showing a high number of autoimmune problems in the recipients and not surprisingly a high number of false positive HIV.
