Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%

  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%

  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%

  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Total voters
    74

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Venkman said:
I think a lot of this kind of stuff comes from a lack of understanding about how vaccines work. They are not 'medicine' as such but an altered form of the virus that triggers the immune response - hopefully in a way that far less harmful than the actual virus. 'Doseage' is complicated and likely variable - fat people, people that have already been infected by covid, etc are going to have a different immune response. Whoever it was here that questions the efficacy based on the fact a 90 year old got three times the dose is kind of not getting that - in this case the vax is pretty harmles. Where it gets morally tricky is that if you give some vaccines to someone who is sufficiently immuno compromised then, depending on the vaccine, the outcome could be bad. Polio is a good example, the vaccine used to a live form of the virus and it would effectively give polio to someone that fits this category - for most people of course it gave them protection from polio and polio is close to eradicated worldwide.
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None of the injections approved so far act like or are a "normal vaccine" at all. The real virus was never isolated and the SARS CoV 2 is an approximation of the real virus based on a small amount of viral material.

The Pfizer mRNA vaccine acts like injecting computer software, based on a spike protein from a small part of the approximated SARS CoV 2 virus into your body. This software (mRNA) then goes searching around your body until it finds the same spike protein and attacks it hopefully getting your body to producing antibodies that might protect you for 3 months at most.

This happens again and again when the mRNA finds other similar viruses, so there is a constant attack on the immune system.

The genetically modified organisms injected into your body are far more harmful than getting the real virus as you have introduced mRNA to which has been shown in previous human trials to cause auto immune disorders because it keeps attacking the bodies immune system looking for viral fragments containing similar spike proteins.

It's especially dangerous for anyone that already has autoimmune conditions because of this and does not act in any way like a "normal vaccine".

Major problems can occur with pathogenic priming (ADE) when the body is eventually exposed to the exact virus "in the wild", allergies because of the nano technology lipid covering and long term effects like infertility are possible but unknown because tests have not been completed.

The only way Polio is a good comparison to these injections is because it was also a rushed vaccine where two candidates raced to have the first available and cut safety and efficacy trials short.
 
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It found conspiracist thinking was higher among politically conservative participants, women and those who reported lower levels of education and socio-economic status, and came with similarly high self-focused concern and protective behaviours.

There was also “no evidence” such an inward focus was due to the respondents downplaying the threat posed by the pandemic.

“Indeed, there was also a significant tendency for those higher in conspiracist ideation to report higher mortality risk ratings from COVID-19,” the paper stated. “In short, a portrait emerged of the conspiracy theorist as focused on self-oriented concerns more so than concerns for collective welfare.”

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

‘Self-oriented’: COVID conspiracy theorists less focused on greater good

A study led by Queensland researchers, spanning more than 4000 people in eight countries, has attempted to gauge the motivations of those who believe there is more to the pandemic.
www.brisbanetimes.com.au www.brisbanetimes.com.au
 
Hawk Dork said:
It found conspiracist thinking was higher among politically conservative participants, women and those who reported lower levels of education and socio-economic status, and came with similarly high self-focused concern and protective behaviours.

There was also “no evidence” such an inward focus was due to the respondents downplaying the threat posed by the pandemic.

“Indeed, there was also a significant tendency for those higher in conspiracist ideation to report higher mortality risk ratings from COVID-19,” the paper stated. “In short, a portrait emerged of the conspiracy theorist as focused on self-oriented concerns more so than concerns for collective welfare.”

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

‘Self-oriented’: COVID conspiracy theorists less focused on greater good

A study led by Queensland researchers, spanning more than 4000 people in eight countries, has attempted to gauge the motivations of those who believe there is more to the pandemic.
www.brisbanetimes.com.au www.brisbanetimes.com.au
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MrKK said:
Here's the actual study link. Some interesting stuff in there, but it falls down with a basic assumption about which behaviours are to the benefit of others e.g. it's debateable whether social distancing that reduces spread among low-risk populations is actually a good or bad thing. Ditto for over-sanitizing.

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The definition of conspiracy theorist is also very wide. In Wave 1 of the study 40% of participants met the definition.
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Hawk Dork said:
It found conspiracist thinking was higher among politically conservative participants, women and those who reported lower levels of education and socio-economic status, and came with similarly high self-focused concern and protective behaviours.

There was also “no evidence” such an inward focus was due to the respondents downplaying the threat posed by the pandemic.

“Indeed, there was also a significant tendency for those higher in conspiracist ideation to report higher mortality risk ratings from COVID-19,” the paper stated. “In short, a portrait emerged of the conspiracy theorist as focused on self-oriented concerns more so than concerns for collective welfare.”

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

‘Self-oriented’: COVID conspiracy theorists less focused on greater good

A study led by Queensland researchers, spanning more than 4000 people in eight countries, has attempted to gauge the motivations of those who believe there is more to the pandemic.
www.brisbanetimes.com.au www.brisbanetimes.com.au
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The irony of this is that getting into a journalism course at uni is a average of 75 ATAR score with most only needing a ATAR of 66 to get in . The person who wrote this article is actually not that educated.

The reality here is, a person less educated than most is the person you want to listen too? Why? I don’t get it
 


A good video for Venk. You want to have this core non belief that the global industries dont have the capability to complete a conspiracy yet they have the exact same financial clout as most countries in the world.

You want to believe that Gates is a nice nerd, when the reality is just far from it. Dont accept the reality because someone said it. Think about the situation and form your own conclusion. That’s notma conspiracy, it’s called independent thinking
 

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:


A good video for Venk. You want to have this core non belief that the global industries dont have the capability to complete a conspiracy yet they have the exact same financial clout as most countries in the world.

You want to believe that Gates is a nice nerd, when the reality is just far from it. Dont accept the reality because someone said it. Think about the situation and form your own conclusion. That’s notma conspiracy, it’s called independent thinking
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Independent thinking? You selfish arsehole. Think of the greater good!
 
ioppolo said:
Independent thinking? You selfish arsehole. Think of the greater good!
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How much independent thought is needed to come to the conclusion that when a charitable organisation gives billion dollars of grants to billion dollar companies they have ownership in for the purposes of product invention they are in all actuality rorting the system

Bill isn’t giving advice, he is marketing a product he has a investment in. Surely Venk can admit this?
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
How much independent thought is needed to come to the conclusion that when a charitable organisation gives billion dollars of grants to billion dollar companies they have ownership in for the purposes of product invention they are in all actuality rorting the system

Bill isn’t giving advice, he is marketing a product he has a investment in. Surely Venk can admit this?
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He and many others apparently not.
Money, greed and power don’t exist and don’t corrupt anymore.
 
Hawk Dork said:
It found conspiracist thinking was higher among politically conservative participants, women and those who reported lower levels of education and socio-economic status, and came with similarly high self-focused concern and protective behaviours.

There was also “no evidence” such an inward focus was due to the respondents downplaying the threat posed by the pandemic.

“Indeed, there was also a significant tendency for those higher in conspiracist ideation to report higher mortality risk ratings from COVID-19,” the paper stated. “In short, a portrait emerged of the conspiracy theorist as focused on self-oriented concerns more so than concerns for collective welfare.”

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

‘Self-oriented’: COVID conspiracy theorists less focused on greater good

A study led by Queensland researchers, spanning more than 4000 people in eight countries, has attempted to gauge the motivations of those who believe there is more to the pandemic.
www.brisbanetimes.com.au www.brisbanetimes.com.au
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Did you believe those videos of people collapsing in the street in China were real?
 
Lethal Knights said:
Did you believe those videos of people collapsing in the street in China were real?
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A billion people everyone with phones
Could be a heart attack/stroke could be covid related heart attack/stroke

There was the Australian guy who collapsed in the streets in Bali I think a French guy too not crowded enough to be caught on film and posted
 
Hawk Dork said:
A billion people everyone with phones
Could be a heart attack/stroke could be covid related heart attack/stroke

There was the Australian guy who collapsed in the streets in Bali I think a French guy too not crowded enough to be caught on film and posted
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Oh jesus ******* christ dorkie, either you are off with the fairies or you're on one all time serious troll, those videos were as fake as fake can be they were putting their arms out to cushion the fall FFS, how does it feel dorkie to know you have been hoodwinked.
 
Tiger Toffee said:
Oh jesus ******* christ dorkie, either you are off with the fairies or you're on one all time serious troll, those videos were as fake as fake can be they were putting their arms out to cushion the fall FFS, how does it feel dorkie to know you have been hoodwinked.
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Sure some have a bit of strenght/awarness/self preservation as is the case if you watch enough random people collapse
others split their heads open

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ioppolo said:
So this flu kills 0.3% of infected people, most of which are elderly people with pre-existing issues.

But these youngish looking people just collapsed and died from the exact same disease?
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1 billion people
We dont know what he collapsed from it might have been CV19 with complications it may have been the flu with complications as you suggest it may be unrelated ???
 
Hawk Dork said:
1 billion people
We dont know what he collapsed from it might have been CV19 with complications it may have been the flu with complications as you suggest it may be unrelated ???
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The chicken you bought could be okay, it could be contaminated in salmonella and cause death. I suppose you don’t eat chicken at all?
 
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