Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[owen87]

Tough call regarding the wearing of masks if you're a black person in the US.

Context would be great

 

[Hornberger]

Context would be great

Spoiler: Video of graphic content.

 

[craigos]

Context would be great

No mask = Police brutality (he wasn't complying!)
Mask = Police brutality (he was hiding his identity!)

 

[Over The Post]

You think there is nobody in the US trying to find a vaccine?

You completely missed the point. Why is an American company experimenting with Australian human lab animals? Aren't there enough locals where they are?

 

[Forward Press]

Can we keep all the conspiracy s**t in the conspiracy sub-forum?

 

[Forward Press]

You completely missed the point. Why is an American company experimenting with Australian human lab animals? Aren't there enough locals where they are?

They might be looking for a population in a first world country that is virtually assured of not having COVID in their systems already, or maybe an Australian subsidiary is doing it, or maybe the Australian government volunteered, who knows.

Are you concerned that these trials would be unsafe? Sure, there's always an element of risk with research on humans but do you not think maximum precautions will be taken to guarantee safety as much as possible? This is a global virus requiring global assistance. Happy that we're helping in some way.

 

[Over The Post]

It's not conspiracy s**t. It's a legitimate question that I'd like an answer to.

 

[Forward Press]

It's not conspiracy s**t. It's a legitimate question that I'd like an answer to.

Was referring to the Bill Gates stuff posted mainly by Proc. Apologies.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Was referring to the Bill Gates stuff posted mainly by Proc. Apologies.

Gates being at the fore-front of this is hardly conspiracy....Cease advertising your ignorance for all to see.

 

[Caesar]

You completely missed the point. Why is an American company experimenting with Australian human lab animals? Aren't there enough locals where they are?

Companies that develop drugs and companies that run clinical trials tend to be different, because they’re very different jobs.

Biotech companies tend to have relationships with a multitude of clinical trials networks all over the world, because different drugs require testing in different environments.

I imagine in a situation like this, where geography isn’t important and speed/accuracy is, a company like Novavax would be leveraging preexisting relationships with trusted partners regardless of physical location.

If a trials network in Australia has capacity and Novavax is familiar with their facilities, processes, staff etc. from previous drugs trials, it is fairly easy to get things happening quickly.

 

[owen87]

Gates being at the fore-front of this is hardly conspiracy....Cease advertising your ignorance for all to see.

Problem is for CT's they take 1 + 1 and get 17.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Companies that develop drugs and companies that run clinical trials tend to be different, because they’re very different jobs.

Biotech companies tend to have relationships with a multitude of clinical trials networks all over the world, because different drugs require testing in different environments (e.g. not much point testing a malaria drug in Switzerland).

I imagine in a situation like this, where time and accuracy is of the essence, a company like Novavax would be leveraging preexisting relationships with trusted and familiar partners all over the world.

If a trials network in Australia has capacity and Novavax has already signed off on their facilities, processes, staff etc. from previous drugs trials, it is fairly easy to get things happening quickly.

So why then the trials in a country that is one of the lest affected by it?

It takes years to trial & test a drug safely enough before harmful side-effects can be adequately gauged & identified.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Problem is for CT's they take 1 + 1 and get 17.

If that's your way of saying that Gates isn't bank-rolling this trial, then prove it....Put up or shut-up.

 

[Caesar]

So why then the trials in a country that is one of the lest affected by it?

Community prevalence may not be important to the specific data that the Australian segment of the trial is designed to gather.

 

[DaRick]

Updates from Brazil:

- Over 20,000 deaths nationwide
- Around 125 deaths in the state of Parana
- The state of Para (in the north) has been in a state of intense lockdown, with nothing open (schools, restaurants, bars) - deaths have been reduced by an equatorial climate (like Singapore/Malaysia)
- The state of Rio Grande do Sul (southernmost state) has fared well due to locking down, probably better than any other state

A Brazilian woman (living in Parana) told me that due to Bolsonaro's idiocy and complacency, Brazil may still suffer from the coronavirus even after most of the rest of the world has gone through it. The southern states (which Parana is one of) also have to go through winter, which she expects will make it worse.

(Parana/Rio Grande do Sul have a subtropical climate, much like the southern half of Queensland. The Tropic of Capricorn passes through the north of Parana, which is around where Rockhampton is. Porto Alegre and Brisbane have an identical climate.)

As an addendum to this post, another Brazilian I know (lives in Parana) had one of their aunts die from COVID. She was only 49.

It really hits home how dangerous this virus is when you read or hear stuff like that.

 

[DIG]

Who gives a s**t if some Australians want to take part in vaccine trials? No one’s being forced to do it, it’s a free world.

 

[Hawk Dork]

The Australian study led by Professor Alvin Ing of Macquarie University, was published in the journal Thorax.

Although all 128 passengers and 95 crew screened negative for symptoms before boarding an Antarctic cruise, it found 59 per cent were infected at the end of it.

One or more aboard must have been asymptomatic or incubating the virus and therefore pre-syptomatic.

A total of 132 tested positive. For each one with symptoms, four were asymptomatic.

There are more asymptomatic people than you think

As Australia braces for a second wave of COVID-19, two new studies have highlighted the urgent need to determine how common and how infectious asymptomatic carriers really are.

www.afr.com

 

[Billy ray]

Global Deaths Due to Various Causes and COVID-19

A Flourish data visualisation by Tony Nickonchuk

public.flourish.studio

 

[Norwegian Blue]

The Australian study led by Professor Alvin Ing of Macquarie University, was published in the journal Thorax.

Although all 128 passengers and 95 crew screened negative for symptoms before boarding an Antarctic cruise, it found 59 per cent were infected at the end of it.

One or more aboard must have been asymptomatic or incubating the virus and therefore pre-syptomatic.

A total of 132 tested positive. For each one with symptoms, four were asymptomatic.

There are more asymptomatic people than you think

As Australia braces for a second wave of COVID-19, two new studies have highlighted the urgent need to determine how common and how infectious asymptomatic carriers really are.

www.afr.com

I had two cousins on that Antarctic trip (assuming the paywalled article is talking about the Greg Mortimer). Both in their late 70s, both tested positive, both totally asymptomatic. The family told them not to go, but off they went anyway. Muppets.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I had two cousins on that Antarctic trip (assuming the paywalled article is talking about the Greg Mortimer). Both in their late 70s, both tested positive, both totally asymptomatic. The family told them not to go, but off they went anyway. Muppets.

The article doesnt name the ship but Im sure its that one

The first case of fever was reported on day eight, prompting the immediate adoption of infection control measures.

As the ship had no contact with other people for 28 days it was effectively an hermetically sealed environment.

 

[dumb]

So $338M for an American company to experiment on Australians. Why not Americans?

You'd think there'd be enough willing participants in USA, even though there are many more militantly opposed to it. Could be a seasonal thing - get it ahead of winter and its stereotypical more coughs and sneezes.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I get the feeling no one actually knows how to handle the public transport issue.


I can see a situation where everyone drives. Petrol and congestion go up and everyone runs back to public transport.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I get the feeling no one actually knows how to handle the public transport issue.


I can see a situation where everyone drives. Petrol and congestion go up and everyone runs back to public transport.

What percentage of jobs can't be done from home? Ballpark figure

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

What percentage of jobs can't be done from home? Ballpark figure

Good question. Be a few. Things like manufacturing and related jobs around that, construction, Transport and logistics cant be done obviously.
A lot of the people on the trains now are construction workers.

 

[FRUMPY]

Good question. Be a few. Things like manufacturing and related jobs around that, construction, Transport and logistics cant be done obviously.
A lot of the people on the trains now are construction workers.

Most of those listed have all been working through this pandemic anyway - its the schools going back, office workers and hospitality going back to work that will have the impact on public transport/more cars on the roads