Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[craigos]

He didn't do enough to convey the message that people shouldn't attend and it shouldn't happen.

Of course people were going to flex the home gathering rules the same weekend people are allowed to gather in the city to chant "F*ck the police'

One rule for some and other rules for others, he dropped the ball with his leadership and here we are back to the start.

He needs to own this mistake and stop blaming the majority which he did again today.

Never heard him say that protesting wasn't worth somebody's life. On the contrary his whole tone and demeanour came across as meek and insincere, like he was reciting something to appease another bunch of people but *wink* *wink* nobody that attended the protest would get fined other than a few organizers. So is it any wonder that the rest of the population immediately saw through that fake bullshit and decided f*ck it I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want from that point on? He needed to stay on message and not give carte blanche to the protesters by revealing that 99.99% who went to the protest weren't going to get fined, that was as good as giving it his personal tick of approval.

The thing is though, his lack of resistance to the protests was a green flag to everyone in the state to just relax and not give a sh*t about social distancing. “If he’s allowing the protests to go ahead then why should I give a sh*t about standing too close to someone in public?”

Including the security guards at the hotels.

His message regarding the BLM protest was the same as the anti-lockdown/5G protests. Why is only one protest being brought up when people are saying it basically green lit everyone to do as they pleased?

The public are giving far too much credit to humans being smarter than we are, we are dumb as * and having to put faith in every person to do the right thing is just as stupid.

 

[dont bowl there]

Increasing the amount of guests you can have in your house to 20 was worse than the BLM protest. Why the need to have 20 people over so soon?

My main issue with the protest is that the people I know who went were the ones most vocal about #stayhomesavelives

 

[Partridge]

LOL. Protests had nothing to do with it. It just lines up perfectly with the timeline of protest to outbreak. Not the protests though /s

Perception had to have an effect. How many people decided to start doing things again thinking "if they can do it so can we".

Set a pretty impressive bar for hypocrisy with fines as well.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Increasing the amount of guests you can have in your house to 20 was worse than the BLM protest. Why the need to have 20 people over so soon?

My main issue with the protest is that the people I know who went were the ones most vocal about #stayhomesavelives

Early tracing in China showed most spreads were done indoors by family

 

[Gough]

His message regarding the BLM protest was the same as the anti-lockdown/5G protests. Why is only one protest being brought up when people are saying it basically green lit everyone to do as they pleased?

The public are giving far too much credit to humans being smarter than we are, we are dumb as fu** and having to put faith in every person to do the right thing is just as stupid.

As long as the dreaded left are at fault all is good. Something something dictator Dan.

 

[Partridge]

When I see your posts here defending a MASS GATHERING during a world wide PANDEMIC I have to laugh, and I recall when I previously read that political parties in Australia use BigFooty as a place to influence "common man" public opinion.

I don't think you're a dumb person so I have to question why someone who isn't insane would defend a MASS GATHERING during a world wide PANDEMIC, because it seems totally bizarre lol.

Because the need to virtue signal and show people how much they care (remember, feelings come first) absolutely eclipses anything else. Pretending to care about a worldwide pandemic is just that - pretending. When it doesn't match the political narrative they need to portray, it goes out the window.

 

[Partridge]

The argument is not that the protests largely contributed to the spread. It's that they served as a signal that it was time for everyone to relax and to stop taking the lockdown/distancing guidelines as seriously. Thousands of people allowed to stand shoulder to shoulder in the streets. Government does nothing to stop it. People are naturally going to see that and think there's an unfair double standard, so they figure the rules/guidelines don't matter and flout them.

Needed to continue to be enforced in the public consciousness that this was a serious issue and that restricting gathering sizes and maintaining social distancing was vital. Allowing thousands of people to protest as they did without wider condemnation or repercussion for those involved sent the message that COVID wasn't important anymore. We were tacitly informed that this societal/political issue mostly regarding something that happened in the United States was of greater importance than the pandemic sweeping through the world.

People had stopped talking about COVID; it was yesterday's news. The actions of US cops and an indigenous death in custody 5 years ago were the new hot button issues. Strangely we're not hearing too much in Australia about those latter concerns which sparked the protest while COVID continues to destroy lives.

My guess remains that 99.99% of the protesters couldn't give two shits about what happens to people in custody either in the US or here. They care very very deeply about being seen to care though.

 

[craigos]

Early tracing in China showed most spreads were done indoors by family

How has Tassie done so well then?

 

[Hawk Dork]

How has Tassie done so well then?

Less international returns in quarantine hanging out with security guards


...............though some would say no Belt and Road agreement or Communist Dictator as Premier

 

[Gralin]

Seems reasonable but wouldn't have thought we're anywhere near that yet. I hope we're not.

Think about it though. Yesterday we got 191 new cases.
So someone has to talk to each one of those people, get their movements for the past two weeks, who they saw and might be a close contact with.
They have to work out whether they link back to an existing known case, they have to contact all those people and potentially businesses.

That's going to take time, and that is just one day's worth of people and just first hand contacts.

Other states didn’t employ cheap, untrained workers who became more and more relaxed and half-arsed about it, for such a crucial job as hotel quarantine.

Yeah but my question was -
Do the people in here bitching about the BLM protests in Victoria and the Governments response to those protests have any issue with the fact that they happened nationally and were treated the same everywhere bar NSW?

You've not answered that.

Increasing the amount of guests you can have in your house to 20 was worse than the BLM protest. Why the need to have 20 people over so soon?

My main issue with the protest is that the people I know who went were the ones most vocal about #stayhomesavelives

So your main issue is with people on your social media feed, not the protests

 

[Deliverance]

Since every state leader gave the green light for thousands of protesters to gather without any consequences, that totally undermined the social distancing message in the eyes of the rest of the population. What part of that are you having trouble understanding?



They didn't have $10 an hour halfwits sleeping and socialising with quarantined expats and then taking the virus home spreading it to friends and family.

FTFY

 

[Bomberboyokay]

As long as the dreaded left are at fault all is good. Something something dictator Dan.

These jokers would fall to pieces if a real left winger ran Victoria.

 

[BFew]

Think about it though. Yesterday we got 191 new cases.
So someone has to talk to each one of those people, get their movements for the past two weeks, who they saw and might be a close contact with.
They have to work out whether they link back to an existing known case, they have to contact all those people and potentially businesses.

That's going to take time, and that is just one day's worth of people and just first hand contacts.

I thought that’s what the Government said the COVIDSafe App was for?

 

[Gough]

The Covid app is about as useful as the pope's balls.

 

[Gralin]

I thought that’s what the Government said the COVIDSafe App was for?

It's not provide a single close contact that the manual tracing hadn't already found.

It's a complete waste of money and time

 

[BFew]

It's not provide a single close contact that the manual tracing hadn't already found.

It's a complete waste of money and time

COVIDSafe app helps stop the spread - our research proves it

All the scenarios we looked at indicated a second wave of COVID-19 was likely. But we were surprised by how much a benefit the app could bring in reducing case numbers.

www.smh.com.au

If the above article has any veracity, you’d think that the government would be promoting the app this week like never before at every opportunity and with big $.

Anyone seen evidence of any ramp up in promotion of the app in Victoria by Hunt, Morrison, Freidenberg , CMO/CHO or their offsiders or even Dutton?

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Increasing the amount of guests you can have in your house to 20 was worse than the BLM protest. Why the need to have 20 people over so soon?

My main issue with the protest is that the people I know who went were the ones most vocal about #stayhomesavelives

You would have been the same one bitching about not being able to go out see you friends, go out to restaurants and going out to bars. Business owners were bitching about not being able to open their doors too. We had low cases for several weeks. How long was Dan meant to wait? Can’t win either way. So many experts on BigFooty. Just a pack of whingers.

 

[Forward Press]

Finally!

We can hope he does a Boris Johnson and takes it seriously after he recovers from it - but I doubt it.

Bolsonaro is a demagogue that will double down when he recovers and say 'see, it wasn't that bad!', rich people will rush to buy hydroxylchloroquine, and the virus will continue to run rampant through the entire population and there will be a surge in vacancies for mortuary and grave digging services.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

134 new cases. We are already flattening the curve.......

 

[Hawk Dork]

Wheres FRUMPY is he ok?

 

[Chief]

Finally!

My uncharitable view on Bolsonaro is that he’s lying in order to walk around showing people it is harmless.

 

[Mazza1234678]

Has anybody wondering whether normal flu is picked up in these covid tests?

Surely this is a high chance

 

[por_please_ya]

I suppose you could have the flu and then catch COVID as well, but seems unlikely.

I don't think normal flu gives you irreversible lung damage either.

 

[Chief]

I suppose you could have the flu and then catch COVID as well, but seems unlikely.

I don't think normal flu gives you irreversible lung damage either.

Influenza can be pretty nasty. According to medical staff COVID-19 is far, far worse.

 

[Nothing]

Has anybody wondering whether normal flu is picked up in these covid tests?

Surely this is a high chance

They are biologically very different and the test is designed for SAR-CoV-2. It will not pick up influenza.