Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 4

[Over The Post]

NSW leads push for national quarantine centre to bring in seasonal workers

The state's Agriculture Minister says there was a conversation about flying in Pacific workers on charter flights to a national quarantine centre, but Canberra said no.

www.abc.net.au

 

[craigos]

NSW leads push for national quarantine centre to bring in seasonal workers

The state's Agriculture Minister says there was a conversation about flying in Pacific workers on charter flights to a national quarantine centre, but Canberra said no.

www.abc.net.au

Wouldn't it just be cheaper and more beneficial to pay Australians good money and provide good conditions for them to want to do this?

 

[William Wonka]

Wouldn't it just be cheaper and more beneficial to pay Australians good money and provide good conditions for them to want to do this?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Never met a farmer hey?

 

[Over The Post]

It's pricks like this who are going to get us all killed. Its why we can't have nice things.

Queensland Health says 'all protocols followed' when woman left hotel quarantine to accompany father to hospital

Queensland Health says "all protocols were followed" when a woman in hotel quarantine accompanied her father to and from hospital wearing full PPE before she later tested positive for the UK strain of COVID-19.

www.abc.net.au

 

[deck]

Speaking of which...

Veg growers dump $150,000 worth of celery crops due to picker shortage

Growers in Victoria's Lindenow Valley have dumped crops due to a drastic shortage of seasonal workers caused by the COVID-19 travel bans.

www.abc.net.au

Yes they are paying $27 an hour. But:

'No way we'd be making over $1,000': The Government wanted young Australians to do farm jobs, here's how they went

These young Australians heard the Government's plea to help farmers pick their crops this season. In return, they were promised high wages, opportunities for exciting Instagram content and even the chance to find love. Here's how it turned out.

www.abc.net.au

And yes you can apply for a relocation allowance, just factor in how long it would take to find accommodation in these areas and how much you'd pay, plus all the travel involved, how much would you be out of pocket until (if) the allowance was paid?

The industry has been built around a cheap, easily exploited itinerant workforce, in the drive to be competitive to get supermarket contracts. Its a vicious circle.

We rely on backpackers; the States relies on illegal Mexicans. Same sh*t.

Did fruit picking years ago up near Warburton. And as the people in the 2nd article state it is very poor pay for the hours you put in. Even the fastest pickers would struggle to make minimum wage.

I'm stunned it is legal and can understand other industries get pissed at what the are forced to pay workers when fruit farmers get away with ripping workers off.

 

[Shade]

Did fruit picking years ago up near Warburton. And as the people in the 2nd article state it is very poor pay for the hours you put in. Even the fastest pickers would struggle to make minimum wage.

I'm stunned it is legal and can understand other industries get pissed at what the are forced to pay workers when fruit farmers get away with ripping workers off.

Hence why its an immigrants job.

shock horror, its not about the money its more about living in australia

 

[hamohawk1]

All states, including those along the eastern states have done very well, particularly within the last 3 months to keep cases low-0 allowing some level of normality.

I understand states have to be cautious about the prospect of another outbreak, but is it feasible to continuing with arbitrary limits on venues, workplaces etc.

I don't see Australian's being largely vaccinated for best case 12-18 months, worst case 3 + years.

Can we sustain things economically for this long?

 

[darcytiger]

It's pricks like this who are going to get us all killed. Its why we can't have nice things.

Queensland Health says 'all protocols followed' when woman left hotel quarantine to accompany father to hospital

Queensland Health says "all protocols were followed" when a woman in hotel quarantine accompanied her father to and from hospital wearing full PPE before she later tested positive for the UK strain of COVID-19.

www.abc.net.au

Get us all killed

Give a few of us the sniffles

 

[MarcMaverick]

Over the past year or so we've all been stumbling around in the dark with this whole ordeal, and all our leaders needed to do was to shine the light and help to guide us out of this. Instead they've been posturing, coming in dry on us, scratching their butts ,enjoying the smell of their own poop might I add, after said picking, and just going against the very people that had elected them there.

 

[MarcMaverick]

The two Questions I pose is this:

1) When will this madness end?

2) How will this madness end? i.e. what are the likely outcomes?

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

It's pricks like this who are going to get us all killed. Its why we can't have nice things.

Queensland Health says 'all protocols followed' when woman left hotel quarantine to accompany father to hospital

Queensland Health says "all protocols were followed" when a woman in hotel quarantine accompanied her father to and from hospital wearing full PPE before she later tested positive for the UK strain of COVID-19.

www.abc.net.au

"Get us all killed"

Hyperbole much?

 

[Over The Post]

Gee, you lot haven't been paying attention. It's a catchphrase being used to help establish me as a memelord.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ive-update-in-op-part-4.1249790/post-68426259
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ive-update-in-op-part-4.1249790/post-68431804
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ive-update-in-op-part-4.1249790/post-68444959
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ive-update-in-op-part-4.1249790/post-68506237

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Fruit picking?

WA have just flown in four plane loads of foreign nationals (Vanuatu) to pick their fruit because the locals won't.

Over 100,000 Australians given exemptions to enter WA from states / territories other than WA since the hard borders were introduced in April last year and not a single one has tested positive for COVID and yet at the moment, Qld, NSW and Vic are locked out with McGowan ignoring his own guidelines with respect to Qld and Vic.

Every case that WA currently has are from people coming in from overseas, off planes and off ships.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

NSW leads push for national quarantine centre to bring in seasonal workers

The state's Agriculture Minister says there was a conversation about flying in Pacific workers on charter flights to a national quarantine centre, but Canberra said no.

www.abc.net.au

.....yet this is exactly what WA are doing / have done.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Did fruit picking years ago up near Warburton. And as the people in the 2nd article state it is very poor pay for the hours you put in. Even the fastest pickers would struggle to make minimum wage.

I'm stunned it is legal and can understand other industries get pissed at what the are forced to pay workers when fruit farmers get away with ripping workers off.

Is the pay poor because employers take money out to pay for rations and quarters or do the workers have to source and pay for their own shelter and meals?

 

[owen87]

The two Questions I pose is this:

1) When will this madness end?

2) How will this madness end? i.e. what are the likely outcomes?

I don't know Marc. Do you have a crystal ball to tell us the future?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Is the pay poor because employers take money out to pay for rations and quarters or do the workers have to source and pay for their own shelter and meals?

Usually the farm has a deal with the hostel and only gets workers from there so you have to stay there and get bused in
So you pay rent and food and make virtually no money

When my friend did it for a while over a few different fruits and veg he said you barely made the dole after expenses if you were lucky
The big teams who did it as a permanent/nomadic job had their own caravans, which the farmer would let them park on site and had people cooking and cleaning and others picking and shared the money....they did ok

 

[William Wonka]

 

[RW]

Dan caved to the unis.

 

[Over The Post]

The issue won't go away.

We need more 'Howards': NT has the answer to fighting COVID variant, experts say

With yet another COVID cluster linked to hotel quarantine and the threat of the highly infectious UK variant, experts are calling on the Government to urgently establish more purpose-built quarantine stations like the NT's Howard Springs facility.

www.abc.net.au

 

[craigos]

Going to be interesting to see white people complaining about being bused out to remote areas and housed behind wire.

Actually, can see it going the other way - "it's not that bad, the fresh air was lovely and the staff were more than helpful, not sure what the boat people are complaining about" - Karen from Toorak told news.com.au

 

[dont bowl there]

Dan caved to the unis.

Good! Huge source of revenue for a lot of businesses and we need to start moving forward eventually.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Usually the farm has a deal with the hostel and only gets workers from there so you have to stay there and get bused in
So you pay rent and food and make virtually no money

When my friend did it for a while over a few different fruits and veg he said you barely made the dole after expenses if you were lucky
The big teams who did it as a permanent/nomadic job had their own caravans, which the farmer would let them park on site and had people cooking and cleaning and others picking and shared the money....they did ok

If you live in a city, pay rent, pay for all you food and utilities how much would a person be left with per week in the end?

I guess that's what it needs t o be compared against.

 

[Hawk Dork]

If you live in a city, pay rent, pay for all you food and utilities how much would a person be left with per week in the end?

I guess that's what it needs t o be compared against.

you would still be paying your rent and the accommodation as it isnt permanent work or you buy a campervan

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

you would still be paying your rent and the accommodation as it isnt permanent work or you buy a campervan

Yes, but I've seen people posting in various places saying you work hard and end up with $300 to $400 per week. I've just wondered if the figure is after they paid for food and accommodation.