Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #3: Vaccines

Where do you stand with COVID-19 vaccines?

  • I've already been vaccinated (at least once)

    Votes: 24 27.6%

  • I intend to get vaccinated soon (first shot)

    Votes: 12 13.8%

  • I'll wait for more studies or doctor's advice

    Votes: 7 8.0%

  • I'll wait until old age or a safer vaccine

    Votes: 5 5.7%

  • I don't intend to get any Covid vaccine

    Votes: 39 44.8%
  • Total voters
    87

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
You know you are onto a winning policy when Duterte backs it. Thats when you really know its the right thing to do
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Rounding people up? I’m surprised we haven’t seen that in some countries actually. Probably in some we don’t hear about.
 
Catfish Alley said:
Rounding people up? I’m surprised we haven’t seen that in some countries actually. Probably in some we don’t hear about.
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Id step back and just generally say wanting people to take the vaccine

Too bad Durtete isnt in Australia though. With policies like that he would have 90% approval rating
 
Catfish Alley said:
Rounding people up? I’m surprised we haven’t seen that in some countries actually. Probably in some we don’t hear about.
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We probably won't see it go that far. Fundamentally, our overlords are too craven for that - they will use whatever propaganda they can to frighten people, they will push the threats only to the degree they receive reasonably broad public acceptance. They would be very concerned to push it too far and lose the public en masse.

At moment - the international travel subject to vaccination is likely to proceed but everything else I believe is a bluff.
 
yebiga said:
We probably won't see it go that far. Fundamentally, our overlords are too craven for that - they will use whatever propaganda they can to frighten people, they will push the threats only to the degree they receive reasonably broad public acceptance. They would be very concerned to push it too far and lose the public en masse.

At moment - the international travel subject to vaccination is likely to proceed but everything else I believe is a bluff.
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I don't.
Another 16 months of this. God knows what we'll see in the next 16 months. By then spirits and people's will be shattered, brainwashed en masse. Who knows how far people will go to support "getting back to normal".

I do wonder what WA has in store. It seems Victoria is the main target here but their algorithms are updated by the second so who knows.
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Id step back and just generally say wanting people to take the vaccine

Too bad Durtete isnt in Australia though. With policies like that he would have 90% approval rating
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I get confused with this because on paper it looks like most people don’t want it. You’re like 20% vaccinated after weeks of rollout. Or are you just short on supply and doing older age groups first?
 
Tiger Toffee said:
LOL just found out a shop at my local shopping centre got fined for........................not having enough covidsafe signs up. :drunk:
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Maybe they could put up signs like this one that some rocket scientist in rural New York put up, reminding people -- in the forest, mind you, -- to practise social "distanceing" :tongueoutv1:


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yebiga said:
You can feel equally free to post where I have specifically been homophobic, racist, or whatever other crap you posted.
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I've no doubt I could find a few, didn't you get one deleted for your suicide commentary they other day? It doesn't appear to exist anymore and I know I replied to your particularly egregious effort that day.

yebiga said:
flu
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Nope. Still not a flu.

yebiga said:
If I have over stepped the bounds of decency
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You have.
 

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Catfish Alley said:
Do people actually have doctors they have a relationship and talk to anymore? Or did that change in the past 15 years or so?

You used to go once/twice a year, know them pretty well, trust their opinion etc. I must be getting old.
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I think they do. But many rely on Dr Google :(
 
Catfish Alley said:
I get confused with this because on paper it looks like most people don’t want it. You’re like 20% vaccinated after weeks of rollout. Or are you just short on supply and doing older age groups first?
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If you take a deep dive into the vaccine trials, it seems to me almost a joke how they interpret the data and how serious issues are dismissed without explanation. Supposedly 3 adverse effects from the AZ vaccine out of a sample size of 23k. A further 172 adverse effects including a death dismissed as not related to the vaccine.
The asymptomatic numbers are virtually exactly the same for full dose of AZ as they are for the control group.

If I had submitted something like these numbers in a year 10 class it would have failed. It is so poorly written and the interpretations clearly self serving . Science has certainly changed

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Phase 3 trials show AstraZeneca COVID vaccine has up to 90% efficacy

www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu
 
yebiga said:
We probably won't see it go that far. Fundamentally, our overlords are too craven for that - they will use whatever propaganda they can to frighten people, they will push the threats only to the degree they receive reasonably broad public acceptance. They would be very concerned to push it too far and lose the public en masse.

At moment - the international travel subject to vaccination is likely to proceed but everything else I believe is a bluff.
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Our Overlord has spoken, all hail Wolfie.
Werewolf said:
Knock it off yebiga and owen87
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Pfizer
Severe reactions (Grade 3) were reported in fewer than 2% of vaccine recipients after either dose except for fatigue (3.8%) and headache (2.0%). Fever (≥38 °C) was reported in similar proportions of younger (16%) and older (11%) vaccine recipients. Rates of serious adverse events were similar between vaccine and placebo groups (0.6% and 0.5%).There were no COVID-19 related deaths.

Severe Grade 3 events are essentially anything up to but not including life threatening - so blindness, infertility, paralysis anything you can think of *ation...

How is this possibly justified - because the rates between vaccinated and non vaccinated for serious adverse effects is 0.6 for vaccinated an 0.5 for unvaccinated. In other words using the same logic - you increase your risk of a serious adverse event by 20% if you get vaccinated as opposed to someone who doesn't. Why take that chance


Pfizer and BioNTech Announce Publication of Results from Landmark Phase 3 Trial of BNT162b2 COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate in The New England Journal of Medicine | Pfizer

Data from 43,448 participants, half of whom received BNT162b2 and half of whom received placebo, showed that the vaccine candidate was well tolerated and demonstrated 95% efficacy in preventing COVID-19 in those without prior infection 7 days or more after the second dose Vaccine efficacy...
www.pfizer.com www.pfizer.com
 
Catfish Alley said:
I get confused with this because on paper it looks like most people don’t want it. You’re like 20% vaccinated after weeks of rollout. Or are you just short on supply and doing older age groups first?
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We get conflicting messages between reports of "vaccine hesitancy" trying to get people to go get vaxxed, and not having enough jabs to go around. Who knows what is happening.
 
www.theedgemarkets.com

MAECC calls for Ivermectin approval, claims powerful benefits in Covid treatment

KUALA LUMPUR (June 21): A group of six medical and consumer-related non-governmental organisations has urged the government to immediately approve the use of Ivermectin to treat Covid-19 patients in Malaysia.The group, known as Malaysian Alliance for Effective Covid-19 Control (MAECC) claimed...
www.theedgemarkets.com www.theedgemarkets.com

Breaking thru?
 
Catfish Alley said:
I get confused with this because on paper it looks like most people don’t want it. You’re like 20% vaccinated after weeks of rollout. Or are you just short on supply and doing older age groups first?
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Vaccines of any kind are only available to those over 40 and AZ is not recommended for those over 50 (now). Pfizer is the only other option and it's in short supply. I don't think there is much vaccinating going at all right now. It's bizarre because they keep pushing it but it's not available!
 
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