News Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread II

[SpiderBurton22]

You shouldn't be a casual, the company just wants to avoid having to pay entitlements you should have accumulated working that much for them.

I think it is sad how many companies posted massive profits and treated their workers like trash.

I agree, but it is what it is. They'd say because I'm getting a loading it justifies it. By being casual they can termiate my employment with only 24 hours notice. It really is exploitation, not that I've ever heard of them doing it.

I'm savvy enough to put away money every forrnight for when I take holidays, sick leave etc. I'm 2 months short of 7 years with this mob, meaning even though I'm casual I'll still be entitled to paid pro rata long service leave.

 

[Themanbun]

I agree, but it is what it is. They'd say because I'm getting a loading it justifies it. By being casual they can termiate my employment with only 24 hours notice. It really is exploitation, not that I've ever heard of them doing it.

I'm savvy enough to put away money every forrnight for when I take holidays, sick leave etc. I'm 2 months short of 7 years with this mob, meaning even though I'm casual I'll still be entitled to paid pro rata long service leave.

Is there a right to request conversion clause in your Award?

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Is there a right to request conversion clause in your Award?

Yeah, I think they is. Laziness on my behalf.

TBH, I've just been drifting along as we're in a good position where I probably don't need to work fulltime anyway, but that's not the point.

I feel for the young blokes I work with that have a family, trying to get into the housing market. Makes it bloody hard.

 

[Themanbun]

Yeah, I think they is. Laziness on my behalf.

TBH, I've just been drifting along as we're in a good position where I probably don't need to work fulltime anyway, but that's not the point.

I feel for the young blokes I work with that have a family, trying to get into the housing market. Makes it bloody hard.

Yeah mate, it sucks. Unfortunately the labour market is only getting worse.

Between casualisation, the gig economy, sham contracting, and general underemployment - which was all a growing problem BEFORE covid tipped our economy properly into a recession - virtually every working class 18-35 year old I know feels insecure and without hope.

A few mates of mine were working two jobs but never able to get a consistent, full-time 38 hours per week. Once JobKeeper came in for the first time in their lives they'd received the full-time minimum wage. They finally managed to pay off their debts, although still living hand to mouth. Then they hear the leader of the Labor Party get on TV and say that people who weren't working 38 hours a week shouldn't be getting the full $750. They just feel like there's no way out.

We are getting off the COVID topic now but I guess what I'm saying is I hear you, it's crap and there needs to be a better way. It's just that as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the political options are just two different shades of the same product.

 

[rickety]

Got a mate 6 days into isolation, the closest my ignorance has come to being breached. He's in the job and came into contact with a very determined, non mask wearing, Covid19 positive bloke.

 

[The acurate one]

I agree, but it is what it is. They'd say because I'm getting a loading it justifies it. By being casual they can termiate my employment with only 24 hours notice. It really is exploitation, not that I've ever heard of them doing it.

I'm savvy enough to put away money every forrnight for when I take holidays, sick leave etc. I'm 2 months short of 7 years with this mob, meaning even though I'm casual I'll still be entitled to paid pro rata long service leave.

Spider , I noticed your posting is extremely casual. Just puttin' it out there.

 

[MagicDaw]

The reason I like that site is because it is just data.

No commentary or political objectives, just numbers.

Same here mate!

 

[krakouers]

Well, hes... persistent...

Why Clive Palmer is suing WA for $30 billion

Clive Palmer is suing for almost $30 billion, it has been revealed in Parliament, in a claim that would cost every man, woman and child more than $12,000 if shared equally among all West Australians.

thewest.com.au

"Clive Palmer is suing the Western Australian Government for almost $30 billion, Attorney General John Quigley has revealed in Parliament.

Mr Quigley said the claims related to the Queensland billionaire’s iron ore interests in the Pilbara and his Mineralogy company.

The A-G introduced emergency legislation to deal with the damages claims and to “prevent potentially dire consequences for the State”.

He said Mr Palmer has made two claims for damages that total almost $30 billion, which is nearly equivalent to the State Government’s total annual Budget."


"In relation to the first damages claim — which arises from Mr Barnett’s 2012 rejection of the proposal — Mr Palmer and the companies seek damages of $10.72 billion.

A further damages claim of $11.37 billion has been lodged for the loss associated with being unable to sell any project required under the State Agreement.

Another $37.1 million is being sought for the “wasted expenditure” they says was incurred, plus lost royalties totalling $326 million and interest from October 2012 valued at $5.21 billion.

The first damages claim totals $27.66 billion, while the level of the second claim — arising from Mr Barnett’s imposition in July 2014 of 46 conditions — has yet to be quantified by Mr Palmer, Mineralogy and International Minerals."

I don't think he wants WA votes...

 

[The acurate one]

Well, hes... persistent...

Why Clive Palmer is suing WA for $30 billion

Clive Palmer is suing for almost $30 billion, it has been revealed in Parliament, in a claim that would cost every man, woman and child more than $12,000 if shared equally among all West Australians.

thewest.com.au

"Clive Palmer is suing the Western Australian Government for almost $30 billion, Attorney General John Quigley has revealed in Parliament.

Mr Quigley said the claims related to the Queensland billionaire’s iron ore interests in the Pilbara and his Mineralogy company.

The A-G introduced emergency legislation to deal with the damages claims and to “prevent potentially dire consequences for the State”.

He said Mr Palmer has made two claims for damages that total almost $30 billion, which is nearly equivalent to the State Government’s total annual Budget."


"In relation to the first damages claim — which arises from Mr Barnett’s 2012 rejection of the proposal — Mr Palmer and the companies seek damages of $10.72 billion.

A further damages claim of $11.37 billion has been lodged for the loss associated with being unable to sell any project required under the State Agreement.

Another $37.1 million is being sought for the “wasted expenditure” they says was incurred, plus lost royalties totalling $326 million and interest from October 2012 valued at $5.21 billion.

The first damages claim totals $27.66 billion, while the level of the second claim — arising from Mr Barnett’s imposition in July 2014 of 46 conditions — has yet to be quantified by Mr Palmer, Mineralogy and International Minerals."

I don't think he wants WA votes...

Do we even have 30 *en billion dollars?, who the * has 30 billion dollars? And how the * do your lawyers keep a straight face when Sweaty Palmer says let's sue for 30 billion ******* dollars??

Christ we have people , good folk worrying about paying for a $300.00 gas bill. They say the meek will inherit the earth- tic *en toc!!.

Oh maybe I aint so meek, but s**t surely you'll take me?

 

[muttley45]

Do we even have 30 fu**en billion dollars?, who the fu** has 30 billion dollars? And how the fu** do your lawyers keep a straight face when Sweaty Palmer says let's sue for 30 billion ******* dollars??

Christ we have people , good folk worrying about paying for a $300.00 gas bill. They say the meek will inherit the earth- tic fu**en toc!!.

Oh maybe I aint so meek, but sh*t surely you'll take me?

Ha ha, even i know a billion is a 1 followed by 9 zero's, but recently i heard our old mate Donald Trump talking about his deficit in Trillions, had to Google it to find out it is 1, followed by 12 zero's, so 30 billion not that big a number really

 

[The acurate one]

Ha ha, even i know a billion is a 1 followed by 9 zero's, but recently i heard our old mate Donald Trump talking about his deficit in Trillions, had to Google it to find out it is 1, followed by 12 zero's, so 30 billion not that big a number really

Man the world is off its ****

 

[krakouers]

Ha ha, even i know a billion is a 1 followed by 9 zero's, but recently i heard our old mate Donald Trump talking about his deficit in Trillions, had to Google it to find out it is 1, followed by 12 zero's, so 30 billion not that big a number really

From the article:
"Put another way, if the claim was shared equally among all Western Australians, it would cost every man, woman and child more than $12,000. "

He should make that the motto of the Palmer Party and see how he goes

 

[koshari]

Covid back in NZ after 100 days of non detection, auckland going back to stage 3.

Four virus cases in New Zealand

Jacinda Ardern has sought to silence a rumour that New Zealand authorities knew about the country’s new virus cases much earlier than when they revealed it.

www.news.com.au

 

[EDFL follower]

Had a mate who got a test at the local hospital. They made him throw his mask in the bin. When he asked for a replacement they wouldn't give him one and he had to walk back through the hospital to get to his car without one. He ended up testing negative.

 

[EDFL follower]

Covid back in NZ after 100 days of non detection, auckland going back to stage 3.

Four virus cases in New Zealand

Jacinda Ardern has sought to silence a rumour that New Zealand authorities knew about the country’s new virus cases much earlier than when they revealed it.

www.news.com.au

Does that mean that the virus has been slowly moving through the community and no one has had bad enough symptoms to get tested? Or does it mean that the testing results aren't as accurate as we would like to believe?

 

[Only Forwards]

Covid back in NZ after 100 days of non detection, auckland going back to stage 3.

Four virus cases in New Zealand

Jacinda Ardern has sought to silence a rumour that New Zealand authorities knew about the country’s new virus cases much earlier than when they revealed it.

www.news.com.au

This is the sort of proof that shows until there is a widely available vaccine we are unlikely to be out of the woods.

 

[DesertRoo]

Does that mean that the virus has been slowly moving through the community and no one has had bad enough symptoms to get tested? Or does it mean that the testing results aren't as accurate as we would like to believe?

Could just be a case of getting frozen TV dinners shipped over from Spain..
I believe that was the case for why so many cruise ships went down together.

 

[koshari]

Does that mean that the virus has been slowly moving through the community and no one has had bad enough symptoms to get tested? Or does it mean that the testing results aren't as accurate as we would like to believe?

I dont think the authorities even know.

 

[koshari]

This is the sort of proof that shows until there is a widely available vaccine we are unlikely to be out of the woods.

At best i think the reality is you can slow the spread somewhat to by your medical and aged areas some time to get their houses in order, but you still need to get your medical and aged areas in order sooner or later. It looks like we failed bigtime with regards to the elderly, and its not like we didnt have a massive heads up 16 years ago after the kerosine baths affair among others.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

About that brief discussion about news Corp publishing secret government modelling.

They stole it from a twitter user. Even reprinted his error.

When Murdoch dies hopefully the entire media org collapses.

 

[krakouers]

About that brief discussion about news Corp publishing secret government modelling.

They stole it from a twitter user. Even reprinted his error.

When Murdoch dies hopefully the entire media org collapses.

Will anyone who takes it over be better?

 

[Tectonic]

Will anyone who takes it over be better?

I'd say that's why it'd be better if it collapses completely

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Will anyone who takes it over be better?

It holds a disproportionate amount of media influence.

They’re literally stealing twitter stuff to make the govt look bad and scare people. The govt deserves to be raked across the coals. But this is not journalism.

 

[Hojuman]

Like the N.Z. auslan interpreter. Looks like ex - All Black.

 

[koshari]

About that brief discussion about news Corp publishing secret government modelling.

They stole it from a twitter user. Even reprinted his error.

When Murdoch dies hopefully the entire media org collapses.