R youse all still in lockdown?
* me dead.
It's almost Christmas.
You poor campaigners
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* me dead.
It's almost Christmas.
You poor campaigners
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The school hinted that illiteracy was involved and thus it's DHHS' fault. If that's the case, then DHHS should have been notified at the first call with an interpreter (if that occurred). If they weren't notified then I don't think you can spend hundreds of millions of dollars on interpreters just in case someone can't read their mother tongue.
I hope I've misread it and it's just a genuine miscommunication or misunderstanding.
Stop mocking us, or Dan will take away our interwebs...R youse all still in lockdown?
fu** me dead.
It's almost Christmas.
You poor campaigners
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How much exactly do you think interpreters get paid? What is the cost to Victoria of getting the communication wrong and easing gets pushed back even a week? I guarantee that interpreters would barely cost 1% of the figures you are quoting and that is far less than the economic cost of lockdown.
I think it is significantly cheaper to have a bunch of translated written communications than it is to have an interpreter for each and every conversation you have with every ESL person you ever interact with. That would rack up into the hundreds of millions as time goes on. Can you please just stop being a nitpicking w***er for one page of this thread?
That would be one effective deterent of punishment.Stop mocking us, or Dan will take away our interwebs...
It probably has been, he just can't recall it.That would be one effective deterent of punishment.
Surprised this hasn't already been written on the white board of his covid enforcement plan
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There isn't a page where you haven't been. It's not as though there is anything important that contract interpreters could have been doing over the past 12 weeks.
Not so hard.Ok. Certain members of the Islamic community, some that I know personally are “they”
Yep, I post here frequently. I dont quote every single one of your posts incessantly trying to nitpick and argue every tiny little point. It's really tiresome that no matter what I post I can expect a combative quote from you putting to proof and arguing. I had you on ignore for a while there, and I've been avoiding interaction with you, so I'll be returning to that now for both our sakes. You've been polite for the most part so I apologise for calling you what I just did. I think we're all getting a little on edge the longer this drags on.
The budget for covid related translation and multicultural comminication is already above $14m according to SBS and I imagine skyrockets if every single communication has to be interpreted live and verbally, rather than proforma translated written communication that can be rolled out. If we take a ratio of one live, verbal communication for every ten written communications my number doesn't seem so ridiculous. But the exact number wasn't the point and we both know that, I was making the point that it will cost a lot more money and a lot more resources (not just the translators, but the time it takes to have verbal conversations versus firing off a letter) than currently. I think in 21st century Australia so long as you have an initial verbal conversation I think you should be able to presume literacy.
All I'm saying is a "hey I can't read" during the first conversation (if there was a first conversation) would have been handy, rather than sticking the boots into the department for not presuming someone can't read. It's easy to sh*t can the gov but I'm not so sure on this one.
I would simply reiterate the point that we have now had 8 months to build contact tracing that is capable of coping with these things and as I understand it they are still using pen and paper.
Pretty much all of the outbreaks that have kept us locked up the last few weeks are directly attributable to DHHS failures. The state is paying a huge price for government and bureaucratic incompetence.
Not so hard.
To be fair to the mother who sent her child that turned out to be infected to school it really does appear that she was trying to do the right thing. She had kept the child's two siblings who had previously tested positive at home until she received clearance from the DHHS that they were okay to return to school. She had kept the child in question in isolation until the DHHS cleared the two siblings. Unfortunately, the communication from the DHHS seems to have given her the impression that all three kids were cleared to go back to school.
Yeah thought you wouldYou won't appreciate this but what is happening now reminds me of trying to get a handle on a fire that keeps breaking out of control lines. It's seems very similar in some ways and despite obvious differences. I think what he is saying is actually reasonable, even if it's a PITA.
It’s not exactly an isolated case though is it
Yeah that's all good.Yep I get that, but I took "they" as being specific to the folk concerned, not the entirety of whatever nationality or religion "they" are from. I have no time for racism, and have travelled my fair share of the world without causing or suffering from and or because of it. I have no problem with being descriptive, with respect.
Lol yep. Many many years ago, in a Territory to our North, I was known for eating dog biscuits .... at least for a few weeks :-D Made a killing selling cigarettes too, to my colleagues ;-DYeah that's all good.
Did you read the biscuit story?
How much exactly do you think interpreters get paid? What is the cost to Victoria of getting the communication wrong and easing gets pushed back even a week? I guarantee that interpreters would barely cost 1% of the figures you are quoting and that is far less than the economic cost of lockdown.
I felt a similar way after seeing that story in Italy, tho it was already coming out on Twitter.No way!
I posted the thread more about the apathy that was happening at the time. I could see it unraveling in China and was starting to feel uneasy.
When the BBC went through that Italian Ward a month or so later and there was one room of 20 in ICU with those plastic bags on their heads I thought we are really in trouble now if that’s what happens and I thought what an awful way to die...in pain and alone
Yeah that is a fair point.All I'm saying is that at the stage we were at we should have been micro-managing every single case. Especially a household with a single mother and three children from a non-English speaking background with two kids that have had the virus and a third in isolation. For the sake of bringing in an interpreter for a few hundred bucks and absolutely making sure that the comms were understood, we now are in a situation where the whole easing of the lockdown is at risk costing tens of millions per day.
Dan must be shattered.Zero & Zero lads
He would be delighted and relieved. There is not a single real reason to believe otherwise, and nor a single real interest of his served by not being able to move on as quickly as they believe is possible.Dan must be shattered.