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The Governor has apologised, basically said this should never have happened. Unfortunately all of the commentators are bringing up the issue that the black/Hispanic reporter was arrested, meanwhile their white reporter wasn't.
This is just inflaming the whole situation even further.
I prefer to see it as an example of what is actually happening on a daily basis there.
I hereby declare the United States of America an official Basket Case - the way CV19 handled, no power over China, now riots have raised their ugly head once more.
My dad who served in the Pacific in WW2 used to say thank God for the Americans because if it wasn't for them Australia would have been taken over by Japan. I grew up with a sense of 'USA will fix it' comfort mentality if a similar situation occurred, backed up by the things I saw USA achieve - space exploration, technology advances, 'superpower' status etc.
The last few years has opened my eyes to a few things - the ignorance everyday Americans have about the rest of the world/other cultures, the huntin' shootin' fishin' "Hills Have Eyes" mentality of half the population, the lack of a basic contingency plan for something like a viral pandemic, no global influence, fear of change for the better....
I respected the 'old' USA - whether that was misguided or not I still believe my dad was right.
They've become a laughing stock - except no one's laughing.
Arrested why?
Just had another look at this. Our New Cases chart looks very similar to South Korea's a month ago.Looking at the numbers - both national and global - I don't think there's anywhere else in the world I'd rather be during this crisis than in Australia.
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The following ... charts are directly from the worldometer site.
Australia (pop 25m+)
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South Korea (pop 51m+)
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You can see how there is a very long tail of daily new cases in South Korea, even though very small in number.
I prefer to see it as an example of what is actually happening on a daily basis there.
I hereby declare the United States of America an official Basket Case - the way CV19 handled, no power over China, now riots have raised their ugly head once more.
My dad who served in the Pacific in WW2 used to say thank God for the Americans because if it wasn't for them Australia would have been taken over by Japan. I grew up with a sense of 'USA will fix it' comfort mentality if a similar situation occurred, backed up by the things I saw USA achieve - space exploration, technology advances, 'superpower' status etc.
The last few years has opened my eyes to a few things - the ignorance everyday Americans have about the rest of the world/other cultures, the huntin' shootin' fishin' "Hills Have Eyes" mentality of half the population, the lack of a basic contingency plan for something like a viral pandemic, no global influence, fear of change for the better....
I respected the 'old' USA - whether that was misguided or not I still believe my dad was right.
They've become a laughing stock - except no one's laughing.
Just had another look at this. Our New Cases chart looks very similar to South Korea's a month ago.
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And here's South Korea's chart today. The long tail is now even longer.
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Chart source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Covid19 is more or less under control in both countries but devilishly hard to eliminate completely. With no herd immunity a dangerous rebound is still a genuine risk during the easing of restrictions if we don't continue to exercise a great degree of caution as individuals.
Yes, that's a good example of how it can happen. Both countries are geared up to jump on such outbreaks with meticulous contact tracing, testing and isolation or quarantine but once it get into the hundreds it's very hard to hold it down without declaring another lockdown. Nobody wants to go back there again.South Korea had a super spreader event recently. An individual infected 40+ people in a single night of dancing, drinking and merriment
Yes, that's a good example of how it can happen. Both countries are geared up to jump on such outbreaks with meticulous contact tracing, testing and isolation or quarantine but once it get into the hundreds it's very hard to hold it down without declaring another lockdown. Nobody wants to go back there again.
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Some industries will drop in a massive way. The government will need to let some go down and buy them during the fire sale that will result. Things like power infrastructure, public transport and the like. May as well buy them than prop them up for years.
Too logical. Public transport for one should never be out of govt control - more efficient to maintain and upgrade using their own employees than contractors and PPP. Poles and wires the same - many years ago I worked for one of the owners of power infrastructure - all the line guys said maintenance efficiency and governance had dropped since they worked under the SEC.
Underrated service to the industry. Apprenticeships are hugely important and for young ones to get the experience they need.SEC, G&F and others were major employers of apprentices too, some who stayed and some who moved to other industries once qualified - benefiting the whole state. Now - nada.
Too logical. Public transport for one should never be out of govt control - more efficient to maintain and upgrade using their own employees than contractors and PPP. Poles and wires the same - many years ago I worked for one of the owners of power infrastructure - all the line guys said maintenance efficiency and governance had dropped since they worked under the SEC. SEC, G&F and others were major employers of apprentices too, some who stayed and some who moved to other industries once qualified - benefiting the whole state. Now - nada.
In terms of ignorance everyday Americans have about the rest of the world/other cultures, the huntin' shootin' fishin' "Hills Have Eyes" mentality of half the population, the lack of a basic contingency plan for something like a viral pandemic I don't think that the US is any worse, if that's the word, than it was during WW11, probably better, segregation is no longer official. The US had severe losses in the Spanish Flu Epidemic, too. Race Riots are regular occurrences. There were 48 between 2000 and 2019, 33 since 2010 [Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States#21st_century Yeah, I know, a bit iffy and the list is headed Civil Unrest but they are really race riots.She still has the most influence in the World.This Pandemic has weakened her but it's not terminal.[/I]...My dad who served in the Pacific in WW2 used to say thank God for the Americans because if it wasn't for them Australia would have been taken over by Japan. I grew up with a sense of 'USA will fix it' comfort mentality if a similar situation occurred, backed up by the things I saw USA achieve - space exploration, technology advances, 'superpower' status etc.
The last few years has opened my eyes to a few things - the ignorance everyday Americans have about the rest of the world/other cultures, the huntin' shootin' fishin' "Hills Have Eyes" mentality of half the population, the lack of a basic contingency plan for something like a viral pandemic, no global influence, fear of change for the better....
I respected the 'old' USA - whether that was misguided or not I still believe my dad was right....
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In terms of ignorance everyday Americans have about the rest of the world/other cultures, the huntin' shootin' fishin' "Hills Have Eyes" mentality of half the population, the lack of a basic contingency plan for something like a viral pandemic I don't think that the US is any worse, if that's the word, than it was during WW11, probably better, segregation is no longer official. The US had severe losses in the Spanish Flu Epidemic, too. Race Riots are regular occurrences. There were 48 between 2000 and 2019, 33 since 2010 [Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States#21st_century Yeah, I know, a bit iffy and the list is headed Civil Unrest but they are really race riots.She still has the most influence in the World.This Pandemic has weakened her but it's not terminal.[/I]
Don't you think things would have improved? We're talking about nearly 100 years ago.
you would have thought !
Despite the continued defence Of the US by our colleague on here , another term for this current administration may well see the end of them as the worlds
leading super power. Their very democracy is under serious threat .
Yes they will!
They're on special at Coles every second week.
They often do the $20 box for half.
Trust me - I'm all over it
and inaccurate. Everyone knows it's Chairman Dan....
A... with the likes of 'Dictator Dan' and other childish insults?
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Yes, the alliteration works better. The Dictator / Chairman epithets arise from the overzealous imposition of rules on self isolation. That’s just a bit of fun, not much of an insult. Golf’s a trivial issue. Return to work is more serious but doesn’t worry me, Belt and Road really does, though. That’s not all Andrews’ doing, if he was the only one it wouldn’t have happened. Cabinet and Government, which means the ALP, share the opprobrium. What’s the Auditor General doing ? Budget Estimates 2019-2020 Report predicts debt of $51 bil by 2023 and acknowledges reduced revenue because of falling real estate prices. Is he intimidated by Pallas after the Transurban extension issue last year ?I get the Chairman Dan part being more inline with the insult trying to link him to authortarian China but I gotta say the alliteration just works better structurally.
100 years ago takes it back to post WW1. Things would have improved is very broad. If you mean race relations, then there has been dramatic change. Segregation has gone, there’s a substantial Afro-American middle class, there’s been a black President. If you mean Global influence, even more dramatic. League of Nations, WW11, post WW11 World order, United NationsDon't you think things would have improved? We're talking about nearly 100 years ago.
Yes, the alliteration works better. The Dictator / Chairman epithets arise from the overzealous imposition of rules on self isolation. That’s just a bit of fun, not much of an insult. Golf’s a trivial issue. Return to work is more serious but doesn’t worry me, Belt and Road really does, though. That’s not all Andrews’ doing, if he was the only one it wouldn’t have happened. Cabinet and Government, which means the ALP, share the opprobrium. What’s the Auditor General doing ? Budget Estimates 2019-2020 Report predicts debt of $51 bil by 2023 and acknowledges reduced revenue because of falling real estate prices. Is he intimidated by Pallas after the Transurban extension issue last year ?
The federal government has repeatedly declined to fund Victorian infrastructure. Repeatedly. The money for these much needed projects should have come from the Feds BUT they decided to do tax cuts and pork barrelling (sports rorts and others), ...
100 years ago takes it back to post WW1. Things would have improved is very broad. If you mean race relations, then there has been dramatic change. Segregation has gone, there’s a substantial Afro-American middle class, there’s been a black President. If you mean Global influence, even more dramatic. League of Nations, WW11, post WW11 World order, United Nations
The US has always been criticised for its treatment of blacks, from slavery days to today, deservedly so; for its World influence, the Ugly American syndrome; for the ignorance and insularity of its citizens yet widespread tourism probably derives from American post WW 1 tourism and there used to be a saying, probably still is, that the West End existed because of American tourists. For all that American entrepreneurs dominate the world economy, its technology improves our lives and the State Department brokers peace deals all over the World.