Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

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I'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
could be that they are pretty much only testing the critically ill. so more likely to die, with the mild and eventually recovered cases not even tested
 

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I take your point. It's true for things like influenza. Have you seen confirmation that recovering from the infection builds immunity?
- If your body doesn't build sufficient immunity to overcome the virus you die. and vice versa

Currently flattening the curve is about slowing the rate of infection to avoid overloading the healthcare system https://www.flattenthecurve.com/
- Yes that's correct.
not trying to cause trouble, just providing clarification as this was my area of study.
 

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I'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
it's largely a case of when the measurement is taken. Persons A and B get cv19 on the same day. They both have bad symptoms and go to hospital 3 days later. 2 days later person A dies and that death statistic is added to the figures. Person B survives but is in hospital and recovery for an additional 3 weeks and will not be counted as a recovery until that period ends when they leave hospital, if in fact, any one is still counting by then. Most of the active cases in the US would be in this basket currently as it has only really exploded in the last couple of weeks in most places there. Therefore, you can't measure the true death rate until this is all over (i.e. maybe next year some time). All you can really take from the current mess of figures is the the number of deaths and their location/age/sex/health history profile. Hope this helps.
 

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I'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
This study suggests that it's hard to tell whether people are being reinfected or if the virus just takes a long time to clear up (ie full recovery takes a lot longer than dying). That's how I read it anyway.

 

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it's largely a case of when the measurement is taken. Persons A and B get cv19 on the same day. They both have bad symptoms and go to hospital 3 days later. 2 days later person A dies and that death statistic is added to the figures. Person B survives but is in hospital and recovery for an additional 3 weeks and will not be counted as a recovery until that period ends when they leave hospital, if in fact, any one is still counting by then. Most of the active cases in the US would be in this basket currently as it has only really exploded in the last couple of weeks in most places there. Therefore, you can't measure the true death rate until this is all over (i.e. maybe next year some time). All you can really take from the current mess of figures is the the number of deaths and their location/age/sex/health history profile. Hope this helps.
Good stuff, thanks. I understand that the test cost $500 in the US which acts as an obvious impediemnt to the under resourced. Hospital could cripple you
 

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The smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.


Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
 

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The smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.


Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
not volunteering your own team to be cut?
 

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The smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.


Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
Nice troll. There are plenty of other threads discussing something similar with the troll aspect
 

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The smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.


Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
Melbourne always misses these lists. Cv19 will be damaging their supporter base
 

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The anger at China is severely misguided.
it was an unknown disease, not a sniper shooting from a vantage point.

It was a disease that lay hidden in people who did not realise they had it.
Just this week we had a cruise ship un dock its passengers inSydney , all will given the all clear but already 50+ have NOW been identified as virus positive.

China is not liable or responsible for this disease.
It is a victim like everyone else in this world.
Bull ******* shit. The Chinese Government are 100% responsible this.

These Wet Markets sell ILLEGAL wildlife, the source of the Virus, 99% traced to a Pangolin - is an endangered species from Africa and was traded ILLEGALLY, for meat at the Wuhan market.

China has done nothing to shut them down, nor maintain basic ******* hygiene - instead, they choose to eat anything that moves.

Someone needs to take ownership and make sure this shit never happens again.
 

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How does Germany have such a low death rate? Italy was supposed to have great doctors/facilities.....is there really that much of a demographic difference between Italy and Germany?
 

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How does Germany have such a low death rate? Italy was supposed to have great doctors/facilities.....is there really that much of a demographic difference between Italy and Germany?
overwhelmed v not so overwhelmed health system. That's why those advocating not to take such drastic action should STFU
 

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