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could be that they are pretty much only testing the critically ill. so more likely to die, with the mild and eventually recovered cases not even testedI'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
We do not know if negative test with no symptoms means true negative or low level carrier which could then be infectious later (with or without symptoms)
could be that they are pretty much only testing the critically ill. so more likely to die, with the mild and eventually recovered cases not even tested
Most melbourne and sydney cases are in the 'leafy' suburbs that can to a higher extent afford OS travel.
Dental plan!Double edged sword is that they can have hospital insurance tied to their employer, which they then lose when they are sacked due to the employer closing down in response to the virus.
Like those rich campaigners who have been refusing to isolate despite multiple police visits after coming back from a high flying ski trip infectedMost melbourne and sydney cases are in the 'leafy' suburbs that can to a higher extent afford OS travel.
not trying to cause trouble, just providing clarification as this was my area of study.I take your point. It's true for things like influenza. Have you seen confirmation that recovering from the infection builds immunity?
- If your body doesn't build sufficient immunity to overcome the virus you die. and vice versa
Currently flattening the curve is about slowing the rate of infection to avoid overloading the healthcare system https://www.flattenthecurve.com/
- Yes that's correct.
Should be quite simple. Fail to isolate and we will isolate you.Like those rich campaigners who have been refusing to isolate despite multiple police visits after coming back from a high flying ski trip infected
it's largely a case of when the measurement is taken. Persons A and B get cv19 on the same day. They both have bad symptoms and go to hospital 3 days later. 2 days later person A dies and that death statistic is added to the figures. Person B survives but is in hospital and recovery for an additional 3 weeks and will not be counted as a recovery until that period ends when they leave hospital, if in fact, any one is still counting by then. Most of the active cases in the US would be in this basket currently as it has only really exploded in the last couple of weeks in most places there. Therefore, you can't measure the true death rate until this is all over (i.e. maybe next year some time). All you can really take from the current mess of figures is the the number of deaths and their location/age/sex/health history profile. Hope this helps.I'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
This study suggests that it's hard to tell whether people are being reinfected or if the virus just takes a long time to clear up (ie full recovery takes a lot longer than dying). That's how I read it anyway.I'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
All good. Nice to have a sensible discussion and have people with expertise participating.not trying to cause trouble, just providing clarification as this was my area of study.
we are not surprisedSpain got a whole heap of test kits from China that turned out to have only 30% accuracy.
Good stuff, thanks. I understand that the test cost $500 in the US which acts as an obvious impediemnt to the under resourced. Hospital could cripple youit's largely a case of when the measurement is taken. Persons A and B get cv19 on the same day. They both have bad symptoms and go to hospital 3 days later. 2 days later person A dies and that death statistic is added to the figures. Person B survives but is in hospital and recovery for an additional 3 weeks and will not be counted as a recovery until that period ends when they leave hospital, if in fact, any one is still counting by then. Most of the active cases in the US would be in this basket currently as it has only really exploded in the last couple of weeks in most places there. Therefore, you can't measure the true death rate until this is all over (i.e. maybe next year some time). All you can really take from the current mess of figures is the the number of deaths and their location/age/sex/health history profile. Hope this helps.
The smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.
Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
Seems like many recoveries aren’t noted. Maybe they have to get retested and cleared?I'm a bit behind on how the US are doing their statistics, but how is it possible that they have more deaths than recoveries? Just not submitting recoveries anymore?
The smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.
Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
Melbourne always misses these lists. Cv19 will be damaging their supporter baseThe smartest thing the afl should do now is reduce the league to 13 teams. Play everyone twice with one team having a buy each week.
There has been talk about the TV rights deal being torn up or whatever, brilliant this situation is easier now. Imagine 13 teams. 200 less players in the league will finally make the skills a bit more bearable to watch and get back to an elite sport. The fixture is fair of course.
Gold coast, GWS, north melbourne, stkilda and western bulldogs should all be axed
Good stuff, thanks. I understand that the test cost $500 in the US which acts as an obvious impediemnt to the under resourced. Hospital could cripple you
The anger at China is severely misguided.
it was an unknown disease, not a sniper shooting from a vantage point.
It was a disease that lay hidden in people who did not realise they had it.
Just this week we had a cruise ship un dock its passengers inSydney , all will given the all clear but already 50+ have NOW been identified as virus positive.
China is not liable or responsible for this disease.
It is a victim like everyone else in this world.
overwhelmed v not so overwhelmed health system. That's why those advocating not to take such drastic action should STFUHow does Germany have such a low death rate? Italy was supposed to have great doctors/facilities.....is there really that much of a demographic difference between Italy and Germany?