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Sounds very familiar.
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There probably is some dodginess/uncertainty in the numbers coming out of China, but this is often (at least here in the US) being used by right wing pundits as a means of excusing or covering up the ineptitude of our own leaders. Of course Australia has managed this a lot better than the States.
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WHO denies being 'China-centric'
World Health Organisation officials have denied that the body was "China-centric" and say the acute phase of a pandemic is not the time to cut funding, after US President Donald Trump said he would put contributions on hold.
But WHO officials defended their organisation against Trump's claims.
"We are still in the acute phase of a pandemic so now is not the time to cut back on funding," Dr Hans Kluge, WHO Regional Director for Europe, told a virtual briefing in response to a question about Trump's remarks.
Dr Bruce Aylward, senior adviser to the WHO Director-General, also defended the UN agency's relationship with China, saying its work with Beijing authorities was important to understand the outbreak which began in Wuhan.
"It was absolutely critical in the early part of this outbreak to have full access to everything possible, to get on the ground and work with the Chinese to understand this," he told reporters.
"This is what we did with every other hard hit country like Spain and had nothing to do with China specifically."
He also defended WHO recommendations to keep borders open, saying that China had worked very hard to identify and detect early cases and their contacts and ensure they did not travel in order to contain the outbreak.
Someone should hang these people upside down. Unbelievable.
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This is why pro sports should be considered an essential service
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Because Chinese New Year was coming up and Wuhan people working in Beijing & Shanghai Return to Wuhan rather than the other way around. Also from January 23 China began lock down. Other parts of the world didn’t do anything as it wasn’t on their doorstep.
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Not even in hindsight. Unless everyone ate the same bat soup.... then there’s evidence of human to human transmission. It makes no sense for anyone to say otherwise.
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This says it all really
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Don't be fooled by China's coronavirus propaganda | The Spectator
As the world wages war on coronavirus, China is in full propaganda mode. Its foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian has claimed the US military might have brought Covid-19 to Wuhan, a lie parroted by several embassy Twitter accounts. It has also sent doctors and medical supplies to Europe and to...
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Yeah with viruses of this nature it should be assumed there is human to human transmission until proven otherwise not the other way around.
The WHO just taking China's word for it that there was no human to human transmission because they had no proof of it was ridiculous and it looks even more ridiculous now when we know how contagious this virus is.
The WHO has lost all credibility, they are still holding press conferences handing out advice but how can you take any of it seriously when their advice in the early stages of this outbreak was shown to be so wrong and contributed to this being such a bad pandemic. They are a joke and deserve to lose their funding from the US.
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Imagine if he googled himself way back to the 1950's when the Chinese worked with Stalin
Haha that would completely bake his noodle
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Your comparison can essentially be boiled down to, everybody dies eventually, so why the fuss?
Its a great argument superficially.
However, if MVAs started increasing exponentially, and threatened to overwhelm our hospital system, I'm thinking people would be reacting quite forcefully.
That MVAs keep happening despite our best efforts to reduce them isn't really a good reason to do anything other than our best effort to reduce Covid19 deaths.
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Given social distancing, better hand hygiene etc., I would anticipate cases and deaths from many other infectious diseases to fall, respiratory, gastro etc..
Having said that, the pneumonia graph likely doesn't include many patients who have died of COVID pneumonia. Given COVID can kill in various ways - pneumonia, septicaemia, myocarditis etc., it's not accurate to put all COVID deaths under pneumonia.
Regardless, roughly 50k people die of 'influenza and pneumonia' (combined) each year in the US. Even the most optimistic estimates would see COVID cause twice as many
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LMAO seriously tige China has 1.4 Billion people. The world's Largest Army 2 Million strong second highest military spending in the world around 250 billion a year. One of the most technically advanced military countries in the world under a socialist regime
Literally a military superpower with the support of the Russians.
Would be the very last country you would even slightly consider going to war with.
Not even the yanks are that batshit crazy. America is only about 260 million people.
Literally if they went to war our world ends lol
They dont actually assume anything until proven otherwise. The statement it hasnt been proven that there is human transmission means nothing other than that. It was not proven until there was proof, then it was proven, I'm not sure what else you expected them to say.
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Well Taiwan had told them that there was human to human transmission but they ignored that along with the reports from Chinese whistleblowers.
The proof was there if they looked for it but the WHO blindly chose to believe the CCP's lies instead and now the rest of the world is paying the price.
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No, but seriously we seem to flattening around the same time China first started to flatten (about 25 days after we hit 100 cases). Easier to notice this on a logarithmic scaled chart.
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New OECD estimates suggest a 22% hit to Australia's economy
The OECD estimates have Australia less hit than most, but they are only partial and point to Australia’s worst recession on record.
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Just had a flashback to those sh*thouse rankings you used to run and the half rate arithmatic applied to defend them.Was that supposed to be a smart-arse response because it's not very smart. You even got BigPond101 giving you a like.
Why 75 days? How much do you want to bet there was more deaths of Covid-19 in the last four weeks in the world than motor vehicle accidents?
On average there is 112,500 MVA in four weeks in the world.
Now this year's road toll in Australia is down 20%. I would guesstimate that the last four weeks made a big difference and is down at least 30% but probably closer to 40%.
Now Australia doesn't have a full lockdown like nearly all of Europe. Even with the most conservative estimate of -30% we get 78,750 MVA deaths in the last four weeks worldwide.
Now today hasn't finished but we have had 78,122 reported Covid-19 in the last four weeks. By the end of the day it will eclipse it quite easily.
Of course there is more nuanced things like in Lombardy, Italy. Since its first reported Covid-19 death 7 weeks ago with full traffic they would average 57 deaths compared to the 9,484 people that have died from Covid-19.
And that's with many that haven't been counted cause you tend to see people dying on a road compared to them dying in a house, and you don't need a test kit to diagnose MVA fatalities.
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More pictures out of Wuhan emerging from lockdown.
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Coronavirus: Photos of Wuhan after 11-week lockdown
LMAO seriously tige China has 1.4 Billion people. The world's Largest Army 2 Million strong second highest military spending in the world around 250 billion a year. One of the most technically advanced military countries in the world under a socialist regime
Literally a military superpower with the support of the Russians.
Would be the very last country you would even slightly consider going to war with.
Not even the yanks are that batshit crazy. America is only about 260 million people.
Literally if they went to war our world ends lol
Infantry numbers are almost meaningless in modern warfare.
You think they are going to fighting hand to hand or something?
It was already out. Thailand picked up a sick traveller around the 12 January by checking temperatures at the airport. As soon as they heard there was a new virus, they implemented plans they had in place.
The lock down was announced ahead of time, and I think they had to change tack and bring it in quicker as people had started leaving en masse.
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